Realism =/= Balance
If you remove block from pikes, no one would use them anymore. You would be instantly dead in close combat. As they are 3 slots you cant even have a secondary weapon besides some low polearms or 1h swords. Then blocking should also removed from small weapons like torch and all heavy weapons like hammers. Do you really want that?
So, basically, fuck a playstyle.
Everything in this game is ridiculously unrealistic - glaive spamming, hiltslashing with greatswords, 2h stab, 1h swords cutting apart plated peeps. Pike as a duel weapon? What the fuck are you smoking?
If you want realism you wouldn't be able to block with ANY weapon that has a wooden shaft like axes, hammers... because after the first or second blocking attempt the shaft would be broken and your weapon completely useless. And don't tell me you can stop an axe or an 2h sword with a fucking dagger in RL. It would chop of your hands, nothing more.
The thing is, in this game it takes next to no effort to get past the point of a long weapon (character movement, acceleration). And since the polearm stab hitboxes are fucked (have always been bugged, never fixed), it just goes through targets without hitting quite often. If it had the advantages of a RL pike, then, okay, give it the disadvantages as well. But it doesn't.
Do you have greatswords/glaives/huscarl shields in Deluge?
Also, half-swording could use a change, i agree.
About shields, this was tried once, iirc. Didn't work out too well for a myriad of reasons.
I find it rather funny, though, how all the comments have been about the first suggestion.
While I also agree that half-swording could use a fix and that pike braces may serve an interesting addition, I don't like the way you present it. Your suggestions are obviously purely based on realism and what is possible in real life and not. Don't bullshit, because anyone can see that. Thankfully we have smart devs who don't care about what people like you think.
I find it rather funny that anyone who argues against you is automatically an idiot and you refuse to acknowledge other people's opinion. Why should we even listen to yours?
I now share ptx's curiosity; what the fuck have you been smoking?
First of all I didn't even call you an idiot. This is something you put in your own head, so once again I ask: what the fuck are you smoking? :lol:
Secondly, you're a joke. Maybe even the biggest one in this community. So please keep going, keep us entertained. :)
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Where is Xantman?!
...but please stop posting on this thread.
If you think we hate you, you're giving yourself more credit than you deserve. We just think you're a funny guy with lots of funny ideas! And besides, making a thread like that will cause you to make an even bigger thread with an immensely bigger wall of text. I think I got my portion of laughter as it is already(thanks for that), so I'll save it for another day.
Or I'll just feint in a duel. Whatever I feel like, really.(click to show/hide)
I now share ptx's curiosity;pl0x don't
I use long spear, actually, pike is a straight up counter for my class.
Not to mention that weapon speed also seems to affect blocking speed, making blocking with pike/longspear quite difficult.
Shields are more or less useless already, no need to nerf them even more. I'm better of with just blocking manually tbh...
Suggestion 1 is pretty cool though
I supported your suggestions (note tham I am a piker atm) in the vote.
It's a shame how people tend to respond in this forum. Not even half of the posts here qualify for a proper answer, most of it is just flaming, trolling and one liners, where proper answers with elaborated arguments were needed, to discuss complicated matters like gameplay and balance :(
I've heard that weapon speed only effects blocking speed in that the faster the weapon, the quicker your attack animations will finish and therefore the faster you can get to a block from an attack....This.
But overall this fact that weappon speed/etc do not influence weapon blocking speed in any real way seems to be a factor for IMBALANCE in a lot of weapons. A 1h sword and a massive german poleaxe can move into position to parry attacks in the same amount of time? Hmm....
It's not about nerfing anything. It's about fixing some items and improving the realism of the mod. Why bother using swords instead of lightsabers? Why use bows instead of guns? If the weapons don't work like they should why bother calling them fancy names? True, shields are rather weak in melee but they work great against missile weapons and what I suggested would only affect this aspect. Having played almost exclusively on my shielder alt lately I can say that what annoys me most is not how every other class seems superior in melee but how some of those AGI whores running around with bucklers get to block as many arrows and bolts as I do with my board shield. I have a feeling that making shield size actually matter would make some shields viable again and give being a shielder more depth. I don't want to make some players less efficient (Well actually I do but that's not what I'm suggesting) I just want to fix some of the weapons and shields of this mod.
So you want shields to be weak in both melee and against projectiles? For most shields that aren't huscarl or other such sizes, you either have to keep a close lookout on your sides or your head/feet depending on if you have a round shield or kite/heater shield. I suggest getting more experience with shields in general, trying out the heaters, round shields, and bucklers yourself at varying shield skill levels (possible with STF).
Suggestion One:
Have you ever fought against that high "stab"? It's a pain in the ass to get face-oneshot by a pike 2 inches away because of it (not like they don't do it already) I've never really liked the animation or all the annoying poking it could bring while fighting.
Suggestion Two:
I like.
Suggestion Three:
I'd like to not get busted in the kneecap by an arrow, lowering my shield only to get shot in the head. It would certainly bring in a heater/kite/board crowd, and less away from the round shields, but I'm certain lots of people would not like it.