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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ricky77 on May 21, 2012, 10:24:40 pm
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I don't really get what the benefit of making a +3 to 2 loom points if you have to outbid people and prob spent 400k + to do it
So your not only loosing a +3 to 2 loom points, but ur also paying an excessive amount of gold..
They should make this a regular choice, having the option to make a +3 2 loom points, with maybe the disadvantage of paying 25-50k... I mean ur loosing a MW for a balanced. or armor wise. Then bidding out people. I just don't think its reasonable. We should be able to do this anyways. with a low cost fee.
WHAT DO U THINK
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A blacksmith auction will appear every few days, if you have some patience you might get it quite cheap. The original idea was to have unlimited reforges for everyone to instantly convert a masterwork into 2 heirloom points - was not implemented because it would have immediately made any masterwork to be worth at least 2 heirloom points.
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but u could make it so their not allowed to use those 2 heirloom points on the market..
Like im going for level 33. i desperately want a +3 round steel buckler, and +3 tabard.. both very rare. and i have a bunch of extra +3 i don't use from diff classes.
So u could enable us to do it with out being able to use it on the market. i have atleast 4 items i would do it to. it would be very nice. I WOULD LOVE U FOREVER :D
EDIT : I dont have gold. so i cant bid ):
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was not implemented because it would have immediately made any masterwork to be worth at least 2 heirloom points.
Shouldn't it? :/
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and we Should be able to trade with the cRPG server or "king of calradia"
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and we Should be able to trade with the cRPG server or "king of calradia"
STAY ON TOPIC QQ. I NEED THIS LOOM THING TO HAPPEN SHUDAP :D
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SUPPORTED
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Yeah spending gold to lose an heirloom level is nonsense. I agree that any MW should be worth at least 2 loom points. Think about the playtime involved to get em. I agree its stupid to loom a fuckin stick, or a red shirt, but let them get their 2 points out of it if they want, without having to auction for it.
*Quick edit* The mod needs fun added. I don't see how blacksmith auctions add fun or enjoyment in any way. It shouldn't be run on giving people the shitty end of the stick all the time. We play the mod for the diversity and customization that's possible. I see marketplace posts up and people asking around for any pair of boots or helmet they can find thats loomed. Let people get what they want. Taking +3 to +2 is a big enough hit already. If anything, make the blacksmith auction allow you to turn a +3 into 3 loom points
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If anything, make the blacksmith auction allow you to turn a +3 into 3 loom points[/b]
Well that would render the market for looms completely useless. And allowing everyone to transform a MW into 2 or 3 loompoints at any time would make everyone jumping around its classes with still enough MW items on a heavy rate. I dont like that idea.
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How can it allow everyone when it happens once every couple of weeks?
If anything there needs to be a multitude of auctions available or all these new 'auctions' aren't anything but simple features pushed via auctions, not actual gold sinks, a few million drained every 3-4 week is seriously no big deal with all the heirloom point sales.
There needs to be an incentive to lower the prices on heirlooms OR making features such as these (and the others) available to the public in a more broad manner.
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How can it allow everyone when it happens once every couple of weeks?
This was a reply to ricI love you first post:
We should be able to do this anyways. with a low cost fee.
Mixed them up in one post a bit, sorry.
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Scary day when I agree with Ricky, but it's a cool concept and if there is going to be quite a few of these auctions, you may be able to snag one cheap. What would be nice is to occasionally offer an auction alongside this that runs with a Superior Blacksmith and Allows you to throw a MW in and get 3 loom points out. Of course, the gold sink for this would probably reach a pretty hefty area.
Just a thought!
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Is it just that people that bought a lot of crap +3 items get a massive gold boost ? No.
That's why the blacksmith works in a limited and easy-to-control way.
This feature won't really fight the inflation per se, but it will increase the supply of heirloom points. It definetly allows everyone that has the money to get it. But it will also become too expensive to be useful for most potential buyers as the price goes up.
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MW are worth 2 looms point atm...
I love this though, it's going to blow holes in the gol supply, that is fo sho... I still don't really know why we are blowing holes in the gold supply though... TBH it's a bit late because the supper rich are all mostly wondering around with fully loomed armour and weapons and don't really need much of anything.
It's a good idea having it as an auction. I don't think it should be getting rid of a loom point though. Perhaps it should give you 2 loom points and a +1 version of the item. I think hacking away at the amount of looms in the system isn't a great idea at all.
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CAN U ALL FUCKING READ. I SAID U CAN CHANGE YOUR +3 FOR 2 LOOM POINTS, BUT CANT USE THOSE 2 LOOM POINTS TO SELL ON MARKET, ONLY TO LOOM A ITEM. SO SAY U GOT A +3 TORCH, CHANGE IT IN FOR 2 LOOM POINTS, LOOM SAY A +2 ELITE CAVALRY SHIELD. FOR FUCKS SAKE, A +3 TORCH IS DEF WORTH A +2 ELITE CAVALRY SHIELD. SERIOUSLY
THIS CONCEPT WORKS WITH ANY +3 ITEM = +2 ITEM. DOESN'T MATTER HOW SHITTY THE +3 IS.
I JUST WANT THIS THING TO GET +3 THAT ARE HARD TO GET
i would make my +3 bec, german poleaxe, bamboo spear, pike, and liuydou into 2 loom points, loom myself a brown lion shield, iron mace, nomad saber, and idk the rest
BUT i can assure u if u cant use the 2 loom points on market, theirs no way this concept can fail
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if you think it's not worth it... don't bid. the price will sort itself out.
a way to "reforge" heirlooms on a widespread basis is not wanted (at this point) as it would hurt the market, and the market is fun.
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losing*
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and the market is fun.
Lol, that's funny.
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Make a loompoints-reasign-button with 30 days cooldown and fuck marketplace. It will be easier to try different classes for exapmle archer or horseman. You won't have to trade your awesome weapon and look for shit for ages, you will just wait a month and you have looms for cav instead of your earlier looms.
Mentioned archers and cav... don't hate me.
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It will be easier to try different classes for exapmle archer or horseman.
Maybe you didn't notice, but loomed stuff isn't so much better than normal stuff. You can try any class with normal gear and be just as good as with looms.
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Lol I am currently trying to win this black smith for I have a mw that I have no use for and I owe 2 loom points so makeing this regular would be awesome.
Maybe you didn't notice, but loomed stuff isn't so much better than normal stuff. You can try any class with normal gear and be just as good as with looms.
You clearly don't know how much better loomed armor is then.
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Loom points are worth 750k right now, while junky, low demand, high supply +3 items (danish, arbalast, bec, etc.) are selling for 1.2 million to 1.4 million. Also factor people's unsellable gimmicks they regret like +3 torch, club, dagger).
So once you factor in this 100-300k price differential, then add in more factors like convenience premium (vs patient market selling), plus saving on 5% tax, and I could see the blacksmith conversion easily being worth 400-600k to someone.
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Loom points are worth 750k right now, while junky, low demand, high supply +3 items (danish, arbalast, bec, etc.) are selling for 1.2 million to 1.4 million. Also factor people's unsellable gimmicks they regret like +3 torch, club, dagger).
So once you factor in this 100-300k price differential, then add in more factors like convenience premium (vs patient market selling), plus saving on 5% tax, and I could see the blacksmith conversion easily being worth 400-600k to someone.
Wait, people actually have +3 torches?
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Wait, people actually regret looming those?
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Wait, people actually have +3 torches?
Yeah. They look real nice with the heirloom pack too, haha
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Now with this you can take the loom points and sell them right?