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Title: Throwing hybrid suggestions
Post by: saydiil on May 17, 2012, 09:43:05 pm
Hello,
I'm really sorry for opening a thread here. I know there might be something similar posted here, but i couldn't find it.
I am now playing my level 23 2-handed Char and I don't like that.
I wanted to play something different.
Pure throwing seems boring to me, so I've decided to make a hybrid.
What is viable from these choices?:
Throwing-Polearm hybrid
or
Throwing- one handed hybrid
Title: Re: Throwing hybrid suggestions
Post by: Turboflex on May 17, 2012, 10:54:01 pm
Both are viable.

Click link in my sig, we have throwing hybrid builds posted there.
Title: Re: Throwing hybrid suggestions
Post by: callahan9119 on May 18, 2012, 12:33:36 am
Yeah, they have good builds over there...I'm trying the "Thane". Remember to get your throwing WPF to a whatever you need to throw heavy axes first. Otherwise you will find you don't have the required skill to use them and you will have to wait till high levels to throw. I accidentally maxed my 1 handed first and it would have taken me till like level 28 to throw axes.

Good Luck.
Title: Re: Throwing hybrid suggestions
Post by: Digglez on May 18, 2012, 12:36:53 am
1h makes best hybrid as it pairs best with a shielder.  as a shielder you are already slower than other players, so having  way to reach out and touch people that are out of range is GREAT.
plus axes are easily best throwing weapon and you and switch them to melee mode to take use of your 1h WPF.  Bring a sword or blunt and you have throwing axes melee mode if you need to break shields
Title: Re: Throwing hybrid suggestions
Post by: callahan9119 on May 18, 2012, 12:54:46 am
Hey diggles, I got a question if you happen to check back here. When you have cav riding down on you, do you hold your axe up, aim then release...or do you anticipate and then almost click the button to throw. It seems when I do the hold, aim and release I can be too slow.

Maybe I should just be jumping out of the way if I don't have a ton of time, but cav tend to avoid me or ride around if I show my hand too early.
Title: Re: Throwing hybrid suggestions
Post by: Turboflex on May 18, 2012, 05:12:27 am
1st priority is always avoid getting hit by cav weapon. forget the throw if you don't have enough time to dodge their wep or raise shield.

Cav are pretty dumb so once they line you up they rarely back off, so raise your wep early and get the aim. Gotta figure out the timing so you have enough chance to jump to their non-wep side, or raise shield. Personally I prefer to take the bump and save my shield. I wear decent armour so it's usually not much HP damage.
Title: Re: Throwing hybrid suggestions
Post by: Ardent on May 18, 2012, 06:53:59 am
My thrower hybrid build is a 24/15 5PT 8PS 5agi 5wm, 130wm 2h, 80ish throwing. Wear rags and your mind as the armor, very versatile, hard hitting, and mobile...just kinda fragile.

My loadout is like a heavy bastard sword or katana (depends on which douchey mood im in) and 2 sets of heavy throwing axes. Armor is whatever goofy peasant getup you want to wear. Low or no armor is required for throwing accuracy and fast footwork. The axes are really easy to land on charging cav with their massive hitbox.

Really fun skip to 30 build i play since i dont grind anymore for heirlooms.
Title: Re: Throwing hybrid suggestions
Post by: Digglez on May 18, 2012, 07:26:53 am
1st priority is always avoid getting hit by cav weapon. forget the throw if you don't have enough time to dodge their wep or raise shield.

Cav are pretty dumb so once they line you up they rarely back off, so raise your wep early and get the aim. Gotta figure out the timing so you have enough chance to jump to their non-wep side, or raise shield. Personally I prefer to take the bump and save my shield. I wear decent armour so it's usually not much HP damage.

^^^

you can throw as early as 25ft or as late as 10ft, wait til they are lined up and coming straight for you
Title: Re: Throwing hybrid suggestions
Post by: Turboflex on May 18, 2012, 03:45:37 pm
My thrower hybrid build is a 24/15 5PT 8PS 5agi 5wm, 130wm 2h, 80ish throwing. Wear rags and your mind as the armor, very versatile, hard hitting, and mobile...just kinda fragile.

My loadout is like a heavy bastard sword or katana (depends on which douchey mood im in) and 2 sets of heavy throwing axes. Armor is whatever goofy peasant getup you want to wear. Low or no armor is required for throwing accuracy and fast footwork. The axes are really easy to land on charging cav with their massive hitbox.

Really fun skip to 30 build i play since i dont grind anymore for heirlooms.

The prob with wearing peasant gear is cav bumps hurt like hell. you will lose 25-50% of your HP when you're facing down charging cav with throwing weapons, even if you dodge at very end to avoid lance they will still probably trample you . I used to wear light leather class armor most of time and it hurt a lot and now that I wear medium I barely have to worry about it they just scratch me.
Title: Re: Throwing hybrid suggestions
Post by: saydiil on May 19, 2012, 12:56:11 pm
Thanks to everyone!
I really appreciate all of your replies ! :D
But I've decided to play a Crossbow/1h next gen :)
Thank you guys :)
Title: Re: Throwing hybrid suggestions
Post by: Christo on May 19, 2012, 12:58:53 pm
Thanks to everyone!
I really appreciate all of your replies ! :D
But I've decided to play a Crossbow/1h next gen :)
Thank you guys :)

Ahh, that's too bad.

Throwing combined with 1h, hell even a shield is a really fun thingie to play.

Try it sometime.
Title: Re: Throwing hybrid suggestions
Post by: saydiil on May 19, 2012, 01:37:04 pm
I think the same...
But I've talked with one of my friends, who told me that it's not that efficient to go hybrid..
Would you say the same about throwing/1h hybrid?
Title: Re: Throwing hybrid suggestions
Post by: Christo on May 19, 2012, 01:38:20 pm
It's surprisingly effective.

On my STF char I used the heavy throwing axes even in melee with a shield, sure they are short but also surprisingly effective in combat.

You can also be a total douche and disengage and get a few throws in, force people to come to you with switching modes.
This throws a lot of people off balance, according to my test fights in the duel server.

Just have to learn the mode switch timings and you're all set.
Title: Re: Throwing hybrid suggestions
Post by: saydiil on May 19, 2012, 01:40:04 pm
I should really try that soon :)
I hope i can STF soon, so i can test it :D
I am close to level 26, so my next gen is pretty far away :D
Title: Re: Throwing hybrid suggestions
Post by: Zanze on May 19, 2012, 06:19:33 pm
You can also be a total douche and disengage and get a few throws in, force people to come to you with switching modes.
This throws a lot of people off balance, according to my test fights in the duel server.

It's not being a douche if they decide they want to be an S key hero. I think that is more of a dick move than throwing at them mid fight.


Also, if you are throwing as they come at you and switch to melee at the last second, they almost never expect you to melee attack with the throwing weapon. (+3 throwing axe does 36 cut!)
Title: Re: Throwing hybrid suggestions
Post by: saydiil on May 19, 2012, 10:30:14 pm
I just cannot decide wether to build a thrower or a crossbower...
It seems like I have to get 100 WPF in throwing, so I can use these axes. But thus I cannot put many points in 1H, which makes it fairly weak...
It just annoys me, that I have to wait 6 days before i can STF again.. Want to test something xD
Title: Re: Throwing hybrid suggestions
Post by: Zanze on May 20, 2012, 05:43:27 am
With 4 WM, that is enough for 95 wpf in throwing and 113 in one hand. With 5 WM you are golden man.

(95 wpf is enough for a warlord helm, mail mittens, light kuyak, and splinted leather boots) with PT4.
Title: Re: Throwing hybrid suggestions
Post by: Digglez on May 20, 2012, 01:16:20 pm
I just cannot decide wether to build a thrower or a crossbower...
It seems like I have to get 100 WPF in throwing, so I can use these axes. But thus I cannot put many points in 1H, which makes it fairly weak...
It just annoys me, that I have to wait 6 days before i can STF again.. Want to test something xD

xbow is boring and you are sitting around half the map reloading, instead of playing or helping teammates.  throwing > xbow my old friend'in
Title: Re: Throwing hybrid suggestions
Post by: saydiil on May 20, 2012, 10:15:25 pm
are you sure?
I'd like to go throwing + 1H (Mace or Langes messer), but i don't know if a hybrid is that good.
I mean, many people told me that i should specialize on ONE thing..but I think that'd be boring as hell ..
Title: Re: Throwing hybrid suggestions
Post by: Digglez on May 21, 2012, 11:01:51 am
are you sure?
I'd like to go throwing + 1H (Mace or Langes messer), but i don't know if a hybrid is that good.
I mean, many people told me that i should specialize on ONE thing..but I think that'd be boring as hell ..

xbowing is easy to start off with, throwing is difficult to start with & takes time, so most people end up ditching it.

You probably shouldnt do any hybriding until gen3 or so unless you are already doing well in melee. 


And being a 100% shielder SUCKS.  Throwing = natural compliment to shields.
Title: Re: Throwing hybrid suggestions
Post by: saydiil on May 21, 2012, 04:38:47 pm
I honestly hate using shields.
If I'd go throwing, i would take something like Langes Messer or a mace, like I said :D
But the other classes seem so boring to me, i want to mix something..
Title: Re: Throwing hybrid suggestions
Post by: Turboflex on May 22, 2012, 05:05:41 pm
That's fine, he's just saying throwing compliments 1h/shield really well because you can throwing with your shield in the other hand, and a weapon like a heavy throwing axe is a pretty solid melee weapon too (so grab a sword/hammer/pick as main, and use heavy axe alternate mode for a shield breaker weapon).

For our clan, most of our 2h/pole guys dont pickup throwing because we want them to be using support weapons like great maul and long spear when we're in formation together, so throwing does not mesh with those weapons.

But for a guy playing more of a solo 2h, a 1 slot like a mace/langes messer + throwing build would work very well (you can also do a polearm build, using throwing lances as melee weap, they are very decent in melee mode). You'd be giving yourself a lot of tactical versatility with 3 stacks of axes or jarids, gunning down archers, runners, or softening up tough fighters as they close, and add to that throwing is hella fun too (unlike xbow in my experience, which is boring as fuck).
Title: Re: Throwing hybrid suggestions
Post by: Rainbow on May 23, 2012, 08:02:42 am
I'd just agree with whatever Digglez says for a thread like this.  His hybrid throwing looks to be pretty effective TBH.