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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Godwin on May 17, 2012, 10:47:55 am

Title: Stakes for archers!
Post by: Godwin on May 17, 2012, 10:47:55 am
No, not beef steaks! Pointy wooden stakes that they can drive into the ground so as cav can't mince into them. Probably been suggested before but more noteworthy than brace-able pikes perhaps.
Title: Re: Steaks for archers!
Post by: [ptx] on May 17, 2012, 10:50:06 am
You mean stakes?
Title: Re: Stakes for archers!
Post by: Godwin on May 17, 2012, 10:54:42 am
Holy shit yes I do!!!! Sorted, thanks  :oops:
Title: Re: Stakes for archers!
Post by: kono yaro! on May 17, 2012, 01:16:36 pm
this is a good idea as it would promote teamplay, someone would have to carry the stakes. while youre at it you should allow non archers to bring extra quivers
Title: Re: Stakes for archers!
Post by: Lactose_the_intolerant on May 17, 2012, 01:21:01 pm
already been suggested a few times. nothing done about it
Title: Re: Stakes for archers!
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on May 17, 2012, 01:26:32 pm
Yeah, it's in ye oldy siege gear where hath thou gone :*( threads
Title: Re: Stakes for archers!
Post by: Miwiw on May 17, 2012, 01:30:34 pm
. while youre at it you should allow non archers to bring extra quivers

thats already possible though, but the problem is you cannot drop your quivers without having a bow equipped (which needs 1 PD at least) :/

@ op good suggestion though, 1 slot or 2 slots, depending on how effective they are in the end
Title: Re: Stakes for archers!
Post by: Okkam on May 17, 2012, 01:44:10 pm
Good idea, was suggested many times, but you can't even imagine how big can be ocean of horsemans tears. Only ocean of twohanders tears can be deeper.
Title: Re: Stakes for archers!
Post by: Teeth on May 17, 2012, 02:48:25 pm
They have done some tests and concluded that it would fuck up performance completely if they were to damage horses running into them afaik. Don't think that is actually necesarry though, just deployable cav barriers that only stop them are good enough and add some tactical element for protecting archers.
Title: Re: Stakes for archers!
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on May 17, 2012, 04:38:43 pm
I don't know if I made a thread suggesting this before, but I've brought it up numerous times on the forums.  Stakes were used throughout history by archers as crude protection from horsemen.  It wouldn't necessarily physically stop a horse (i.e. the horse's leg might get fucked up and eventually kill the horse, but it's body might still fly into you as it fell), but it would certainly damage it.

This should be part of the siege equipment for the game, and like people said, even if it doesn't actually hurt a horse, it would be nice if it would physically stop them from riding through it.  Lots of times the stakes were very crude and just fashioned near a battle from tree branches that were sharpened into points.  But it did the trick.
Title: Re: Stakes for archers!
Post by: Godwin on May 18, 2012, 05:22:24 pm
Yes, so have placeable stakes that do no damage and infantry can pass through, the fact that they stop horses is the point of the point.
Title: Re: Stakes for archers!
Post by: Muki on May 18, 2012, 05:39:28 pm
Yes, so have placeable stakes that do no damage and infantry can pass through, the fact that they stop horses is the point of the point.

couldn't we just use shield shields to stop the horses too or c-site?
Title: Re: Stakes for archers!
Post by: Arrowblood on May 18, 2012, 05:46:52 pm
couldn't we just use shield shields to stop the horses too or c-site?
No. Stakes look better.
Title: Re: Stakes for archers!
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on May 18, 2012, 06:11:00 pm
No. Stakes look better.

And they would be lighter, and should probably be able to carry like 2 or 3 for each weapon slot.
Title: Re: Stakes for archers!
Post by: Joseph Porta on May 18, 2012, 07:27:47 pm
What would happen if a bunch o archers wouldmake a circle and camp it? Or you want a minimum distances between the stakes?
Title: Re: Stakes for archers!
Post by: LordBerenger on May 18, 2012, 07:31:27 pm
What would happen if a bunch o archers wouldmake a circle and camp it? Or you want a minimum distances between the stakes?

Make max three or four stakes per round per team.
Title: Re: Stakes for archers!
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on May 18, 2012, 07:43:59 pm
I think it'd be better if the stake damaged the horse (or crippled it completely) but destroyed the stake.  And if archers made a circle with the stakes, then I'd say good for them, that would keep cavalry off them.
Title: Re: Stakes for archers!
Post by: Godwin on May 18, 2012, 08:57:07 pm
I think it'd be better if the stake damaged the horse (or crippled it completely) but destroyed the stake.  And if archers made a circle with the stakes, then I'd say good for them, that would keep cavalry off them.
Apparently it would be too difficult to implement stake damage, but they could be used as a barrier, like you see in some maps already. Inf can get through but not cav unless they jump.
Title: Re: Stakes for archers!
Post by: LordBerenger on May 18, 2012, 09:52:02 pm
I think it'd be better if the stake damaged the horse (or crippled it completely) but destroyed the stake.  And if archers made a circle with the stakes, then I'd say good for them, that would keep cavalry off them.

And then they would stack up and render cav completely useless and all non shielders.