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Title: What the fuck is up with repairs?
Post by: Carac on May 05, 2012, 05:47:18 pm
It says on the wiki that there is only a 4% chance every minute for something to be repaired. That is such bullshit. Every round I have to repair at least 2 things. I am making no money even with x5 on. I am not even wearing expensive shit. Everything is 23k together. WTF. FUCK YOU REPAIRS.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with repairs?
Post by: Mala on May 05, 2012, 05:58:43 pm
4% every minute for a single item.
So if you wear six items and the round lasts five minutes, then you have six times a breaking chance of 20%
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with repairs?
Post by: ZEE_BISHOP on May 05, 2012, 07:07:42 pm
I guess it's just coincidence, but with the re-spec thing being broken at the moment I wonder if there's something else code wise gone awry behind the scenes? People were complaining about getting full set repairs a whole lot in EU1 today, and I got them about 5 rounds in a row which is really quite unlucky or odd.

Anything actually wrong with repairs atm or just an unlucky day for everyone?
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with repairs?
Post by: Harpag on May 05, 2012, 07:41:09 pm
Repair costs must be considered in the long run. Sometimes it's awful and you pay for everything, and sometimes is ok. Today I played two maps (EU1) and I earned 2k. If you lose 25k in a week, and did not get back in the next, it means that you have an expensive equipment. My eq = 40.825 & 2.855 max upkeep and in the long run I'm on a low plus. Chill out, just play.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with repairs?
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on May 06, 2012, 12:03:13 am
Quote from: Carac on May 05, 2012, 05:47:18 pm
It says on the wiki that there is only a 4% chance every minute for something to be repaired. That is such bullshit. Every round I have to repair at least 2 things. I am making no money even with x5 on. I am not even wearing expensive shit. Everything is 23k together. WTF. FUCK YOU REPAIRS.

Yeah sure buddy, get in the que. You are at least the 1000th person to claim this poop.

I made about 120k on one gen with 24k equipment. Cease crying start playing all will be okay. Just go ready my peasant guide to making money and having fun, get to 31 sell loom, never bitch again.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with repairs?
Post by: Byrdi on May 07, 2012, 10:32:17 pm
I made 250k in one gen with at least 30k gear cost. Yes, I had 8 MW that gen, but upkeep is still too low, it needs a buff.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with repairs?
Post by: Araxiel on May 07, 2012, 10:36:10 pm
I lose about 400k gold every gen with plate and flamberge. If i have x5 for a couple of hours i neither gain any gold nor loooose.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with repairs?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 07, 2012, 10:38:35 pm
Quote from: Byrdi on May 07, 2012, 10:32:17 pm
I made 250k in one gen with at least 30k gear cost. Yes, I had 8 MW that gen, but upkeep is still too low, it needs a buff.

Sounds about right, a gen gives 435K (less with gen mods) and your gear at that 30K+ish should use roughly 60% of that, and it roughly did.

Sounds fine to me, as 30K (or a wee bit more) won't give you super great gear and should be the "baseline" and honestly making 250K during a whole gen at 70+ish hours seems like an appropriate reward given how fast you can burn through that if you buy anything or start using expensive gear with average multis(50K+ consistently).

EDIT: Fuck commas.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with repairs?
Post by: Byrdi on May 08, 2012, 08:22:48 am
Quote from: Tears of Destiny on May 07, 2012, 10:38:35 pm
Sounds about right, a gen gives 435K (less with gen mods) and your gear at that 30K+ish should use roughly 60% of that, and it roughly did.

Sounds fine to me, as 30K (or a wee bit more) won't give you super great gear and should be the "baseline" and honestly making 250K during a whole gen at 70+ish hours seems like an appropriate reward given how fast you can burn through that if you buy anything or start using expensive gear with average multis(50K+ consistently).

EDIT: Fuck commas.

I was gen 13 (fairly high XP bonus = less gold), and it was one of my shortest gen ever. I just think its stupid that I could make of the gold Vicent uses on his plate shit. There is too much gold in the game and too many plated horses, heavy armours and sort.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with repairs?
Post by: Vibe on May 08, 2012, 11:52:29 am
This thread is both new and refreshing.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with repairs?
Post by: Phazey on May 08, 2012, 11:56:11 am
Raging at repairs. How original.   :o

It's random, doh. :rolleyes:

Get a proper buffer of 50 or 100k and you'll be fine.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with repairs?
Post by: bosco on May 09, 2012, 06:41:29 pm
Mhh, somehow it feels like repairs really kick in more often since a few days now. Losing more cash than usual. Not a problem, but still somewhat noticeable.

And with the developers always sneaking stuff in, it wouldn't surprise me if the break chance % was upped to go along with the market tax and the whole idea of draining gold out of the system.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with repairs?
Post by: Belhade on May 11, 2012, 05:23:27 am
Get raped on repair costs

Turn off auto-repair and nothing gets damaged

YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN THAT
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with repairs?
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on May 11, 2012, 07:51:16 am
We've all experimented with not paying the bills, just wait till the repo man comes brother.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with repairs?
Post by: Cepeshi on May 11, 2012, 08:26:55 am
First they implement system allowing you to swim in money and then they want gold sinks. Is it just me who finds this retarded?

Title: Re: What the fuck is up with repairs?
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on May 11, 2012, 09:17:35 am
Quote from: Cepeshi on May 11, 2012, 08:26:55 am
First they implement system allowing you to swim in money and then they want gold sinks. Is it just me who finds this retarded?

No, not just you. But I wouldn't say retarded, I would say confused and confusing. The upkeep system was a nice idea that was always pretty well doomed the moment the market was added.

I think the best balancing features of the game is gear weight and the way it effects your movement and attack speed, I think that is where the balancing is to be had.

Title: Re: What the fuck is up with repairs?
Post by: Cepeshi on May 11, 2012, 09:32:47 am
Quote from: FRANK_THE_TANK on May 11, 2012, 09:17:35 am
No, not just you. But I wouldn't say retarded, I would say confused and confusing. The upkeep system was a nice idea that was always pretty well doomed the moment the market was added.

I think the best balancing features of the game is gear weight and the way it effects your movement and attack speed, I think that is where the balancing is to be had.

Tbh, i did not mind tincans running around 24/7, was quite fun gangbanging them. And, with most of the players sitting on just one tier lower gear with almost same protection as plate, i do not see any more reasoning behind upkeep (it was put in place to stop guys abusing high lvl gear 24x7).  That is still not happening.

Please, remove the marketplace options for trading money, just keep item for item, fair and square. Everyone has to make their own money, this would stop loom selling and people bathing in money.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with repairs?
Post by: [ptx] on May 11, 2012, 10:09:20 am
I've made something like 50k+ gold on alt of mine with gear cost of 45k in last gen. I had less gear cost the gen before that and pretty much stayed at the same gold amount for the entire gen. Shit happens.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with repairs?
Post by: Son Of Odin on May 11, 2012, 11:07:37 am
My full cav gear costs 55,099 gold and upkeep is 3,854 gold max. I've always had about 200k gold buffer. Sometimes I get below 140k, but sometimes gain it back over 200k again. I'm sure I'm not gaining any gold, but that's not even my goal. Will see if I am forced to use cheaper gear because I'm not retiring for now and there is not going to be low level gear gold mining at all.

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Title: Re: What the fuck is up with repairs?
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on May 11, 2012, 11:14:23 am
I had to plus the little dancing man.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with repairs?
Post by: MaTtHiAs_M on May 11, 2012, 11:59:20 am
76h 76b 64lArmor
2/4Slots
79,785 goldCost
5,583 goldUpkeep (max)

I have always 500k - 700k buffer, every gen i`m gaining maybe 10k or loosing 100k, it depends how often i'm playing with x5 or with x1.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with repairs?
Post by: Ace3889 on May 12, 2012, 07:08:36 am
What do u guys mean by Gen?   

And is that good for someone at lvl 17
12,049 gold Cost
839 gold Up keep
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with repairs?
Post by: Lemmy_Winks on May 12, 2012, 07:21:24 am
I guess what OP means is that repairs were increased recently, ive definitly noticed a change. I used to be able to break even or even make a little but now im losing tons of money despite the fact im still winning just as much. Its gotten to the point were i would guess you would not be able to break even unless you were using less than 25-30k max. I dont really get the point if youve got all this good gear and under normal circumstances you can only afford to use crap. I have a ton of money and can sell looms over and over but still. It largley punishes the newer players especially cavalry. I used to play 2h and i wouldnt use heavier armor even if i could have afforded it, its more about play style than being able to afford it, espcieally now with the heavy cav nerf making heavy cav extremly unviable anyways.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with repairs?
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on May 12, 2012, 07:35:37 am
Quote from: Ace3889 on May 12, 2012, 07:08:36 am
What do u guys mean by Gen?   

And is that good for someone at lvl 17
12,049 gold Cost
839 gold Up keep

When you hit lvl 31 you get the option to retire and loom a weapon (buff it's stats a little). Each time you do you gain a generation as in McAce3889 son Ace3889 (why do you have numbers in your name :[ ).
Each time you do you gain 3% xp so during gen 2 you get 1030xp per tick instead of 1000. So each gen gets shorter and shorter so you make less money per gen, but if you measure it as time played you make the same on average.

Yes 839 up keep isn't bad. I prefer seeing that number around 500. I miss the old ambiguous system where you just had total cost :*(

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The * means I killed a mother fucker for his goldz.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with repairs?
Post by: OpenPalm on May 12, 2012, 07:38:37 am
I don't think you make less frank, I think it's the same because you also get a money bonus.
Title: Re: What the fuck is up with repairs?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 12, 2012, 07:52:45 am
Quote from: OpenPalm on May 12, 2012, 07:38:37 am
I don't think you make less frank, I think it's the same because you also get a money bonus.

No, as there is no money bonus for additional generations.