cRPG
cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Beauchamp on May 02, 2012, 04:43:37 pm
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I think it would be nice, if there were a noob server for players. Only those with K:D ration <1 would be allowed to play there (or maybe even less than 1).
Imo c-rpg lost a lot of players, because the game was very frustrating for them since beginning, it would be nice to give them some pre-step (maybe with a bit limited multis up to x3 or something else) to master at least basics while being able to kill sbdy and thuss have bigger fun than being slaughtered by veterans with loomed gear.
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No way, you only learn by playin the best.
If id spent all my time on a noob server
I wouldn't have got half as good as Iam now and im still 1/10 as good as some.
Crpg is about the unrivalled difficulty and painful learning curve and that's what makes this so rewarding as a mod.
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K:D ratio isn't a measure of how good you are, only a measure of how closely you resemble the typical Kuyak clone with a masterwork Danish/spammitar and Huscarl. Hot_Chick has a K:D of about 1:2 but I don't think I should be allowed to slaughter newbies.
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mighty long axe spam with lordly gear and my K/D is 4, ain't even kidding.
i would respec and go to kill noobs to that server ;)
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u don't learn anything by playing the best if u suck.
i'm only wondering how many people c-rpg lost because they were slaughtered since beginning like flies.
but these are quite expected reactions, everybody wants to slaughter the peasants, why not if its sooooo much fun...
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mighty long axe spam with lordly gear and my K/D is 4, ain't even kidding.
i would respec and go to kill noobs to that server ;)
didn't it (accidently) come to your mind, that k:d ration might have been related to the serial key and not to the char?
i was not sure about it, but if there were people willing to respec only to "have fun", than yeah it would be needed because of those like u.
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Dont really see a point.
I've been playing for a week now and before that i only had experience with singleplayer warband with automatic blocking and lowered dif. Steamrolling a castle, feelt soo good.
After a few matches defending the virgin, i joined the battle server. Took me 2 days to kill someone, and that was hitting a dude in the back that was already hurt. I kept dying and dying all the time, getting frustrated.
But now, there are even times where i manage to kill a few ppl in a row without getting hit.
Sure they may be new just like i am, but at least im getting better. You dont really get better by playing with equals, because there isnt much to learn from them.
But getting your ass kicked all the time and watching how you got kicked makes you better in the long run :)
Also, noob server could result into this = Newb, play for weeks on newb server, then they decide its time to play with vets, they get steamrolled, and then they will complain about it on forum (hax, op items, etc)
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hopeless...
crpg community is retarded
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I think it's a good idea but in order to work properly it should repel good players. Xp & gold should suffer a small malus, or maybe cap the multi at 3. You should be allowed in if the character you use has bad k/d. Most players are very good with a few specific classes but are bad at other things, they shouldn't be punished for that.
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not everyone is a masochist who likes fighting against way better people to at some point get good enough. the idea is well needed for all those who want to start off on such a server.
people that dont want to can join the real servers anyway
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+1
You learn best by playing against the best, perhaps, but it will be totally frustrating. Having some sort of protected environment would be cool. But won't their k/d go up again if they only play there? I'd simply suggest: make the noob server accessible for gen 1 people only. Those that do want to stay in the game will want to get their loom and join the real servers (and they will surely acquire the skill to survive there during this one generation.) Those that want to play casually can stay there.
And, to stop newcoming native veterans and natural gaming talents from pwing the server, ban anyone with a consistent k/d > 3 for some time. Should be sufficient.
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Another idea would be to have a newbie zone and have the max level to enter be 10 or 15.
A gen 1 character would get a lot of time to learn without running constantly into plated monstrosities, and higher gen characters would outlevel the server too fast to cause much disruption with their gen xp bonus. Gives newbies a chance to learn in a lower skill environment while keeping peasant level players who can't contribute much to the team off the main servers. Seems like a win-win.
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I think it would be a good idea if anyone could log in. However, if your K:D is over a certain amount, you can only be armed with a stick and rocks.
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While I'm unsure of how it should work, I do think we should have a server for new players.
+1
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ide love to see this implemented for the newer players, Only Generation 1 mains can join.?. maybe? not sure on how it would work but i like the idea, +1 :D
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hopeless...
crpg community is retarded
lol so true.
I think a newbie server is in place now more than ever. Us oldmy old friends started out in a different time where skill levels were way more diverse than now..
I'm not even sure if I would play this game had I started now.
The average skill level is just so much higher and It's hard and frustrating as fuck on the battlefield, even for vets.
Generally speaking, it's much more HOW to do the noob server right.
Perhaps one can be allowed to play on it if one has clocked less than 100 hours in cRPG. After that, let's say one can join, but only in peasantgear and lowered stats. (!)
That way the noobserver could be a fun place for the vets as well.
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Let's improve your suggestion a bit
1. If your k\d more than 0.75 = you cant equip weapons\armors\horses at this server
2. If your level is more than 24 = you cant equip weapons\armors\horses at this server
3. If your overall k\d is more than 1 - you forced to play only at this server without armor and weapons up to your level 14. After this you cant use this server at all.
4. Double exp rate for this noobfest
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doesn't make since to me, then admins wouldn't join. that would be a place for leechers in my opinion
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Allow people over a certain gen to join, but at heavily reduced stats and/or a cost cap, so they wouldn't be able to use top-tier gear. A good way for newbies to learn the ropes that isn't as relentless as the whole "get killed 10000 times on battle, get one kill" thing on battle.
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doesn't make since to me, then admins wouldn't join. that would be a place for leechers in my opinion
Admins could join, they couldnt be able to join a faction and play on it though.
They can do their job as an admin from spectator.
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I love the idea of reversing the role
but sadly I know lot of people that could own even at low lvl and with stick...
and it's much more frustrating to be killed by a stick gentlemen then by a fellow tin can
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I'm ok with this. I remember when i started you still gained xp from nearby kills, so i just followed one of the many tincans on the battlefield trying to get someone with my pitch fork :D, and hiding behind buildings just in order to get killed near the battle and still get xp.
Now a noob has nothing to do in a server, no purpose at all. So I'd say a noob server where only 30 or below level and just 3rd generation maximum are allowed to enter. No alts, just mains. This way the server is kept with new players and the number of looms is low, and no 1st gen maxlevelers in it.
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Don't worry I'm setting up a server in Australia, so it'll all be sorted out.
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You don't get a lot better playing with other noob players. The most skill increase I ever saw for me was playing versus really good players. Yes you're getting owned, but shit, man up and you'll be good one day too. (this goes for most games, not just Warband)
noob server = bad idea (even for noobs)
As for being completely new to Warband, best is to go play with tutorial bots and learn how to block. No need for a special server for that.
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imo it should be (mostly if not completely) by K:D ratio (for all your chars) based. K:D ratio may not be the optimal formula, but from all I can think of it still represents the skill in a best way.
it could work in this way:
- if you have K:D on veteran servers below 1:2 you're allowed to play on noob servers without penalty
- but at the same time if you have K:D on noob server above 2:1 you can't play there without a penalty
- K:D ratio would be measure after you would get like 400 kills on each of the server type. before you could play anywhere without limits.
this way the access would be a bit restricted to those that play already decently on veteran servers. and those that would master the noob server would be forced to go to veteran one. still you could join noob servers (with penalties of course) anytime - so for example if you play with your beginner friends you still can play together.
- penalty could be limited gear access, reduced stats and not gaining any multiplier
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You don't get a lot better playing with other noob players. The most skill increase I ever saw for me was playing versus really good players. Yes you're getting owned, but shit, man up and you'll be good one day too. (this goes for most games, not just Warband)
noob server = bad idea (even for noobs)
skills, skills, skills, skills... and what about fun? btw i don't believe you learn anything when playing against freaks like phyrex if you suck. the only thing it can be good for is to get disgusted by your game performance and leave the game one day (completely).
hell i can see it on my 2 flatmates and the other friend how they struggle..... even after all those basics i explained and trained with them outside crpg. i can't even imagine sbdy new that comes without any training from experienced player into crpg that would have fun longer than a few days. (unless he is really dedicated - but how many are like this).
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how about having well dedicated admins functioning as commanders? they are the only high level/old players allowed on the servers, and they can organize fights, help in game with any trouble etc. I think that would up the experience a lot for new players.
also, imagine the feeling for a new player to join a real server for the first time, it will be a hole new feeling of "leveling up"
so i would say: mandatory noob server up to firs gen level 18, optional to join up to first gen level 28 (no respeccing, total amount of xp must count), than the have to go to the normal servers
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It's also important to keep a noob server populated.
So there should be a reason for vets to go there and have fun.
My suggestion is that all vets has to play as staffmasters with preset stats or something.. :)
Maybe constant X1, or no gold gain also.
Staffmasters can beat up any noob, so it should be a really mediocre build for the pros.
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It's also important to keep a noob server populated.
So there should be a reason for vets to go there and have fun.
My suggestion is that all vets has to play as staffmasters with preset stats or something.. :)
Maybe constant X1, or no gold gain also.
Staffmasters can beat up any noob, so it should be a really mediocre build for the pros.
i was thinking the same, and thought it would be nice to have some special level 18/20 alt that is allowed to join that server. the motivation would be to experience a peasant war like in the old days
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Maybe just limit char level to 20 and equipment worth to 15k? Or make it gen1 main exclusive (or maybe gen 1-3)?
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Server Info
Players: 10v10 Battle
Restrictions: <30 Generation 1, NO STF chars, CD Key's Tied to other chars Greater then Gen 1 will not be allowed.
Bonus Max 3x
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Great idea indeed.
But on what criteria will we judge someone being a noob...
I doubt it's linked to the level (even if above lv31 is a no).
k/d ratio needs also a little tweaking.
But limiting equipment and stats for :
-above lv30
-above gen 2 (even gen 2 are still "new")
-k/d above 0,8.
And reduce by half xp gain, so that it's also more rewarding to play it the "hard" way.
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We already have noob server. Siege server which is much more noob friendly than battle. Battle isn't good place for newbies, even rageball is better place for them (at least if they don't come across KpuBopyka).
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No you guys are taking this wrong way.
Peasant server
allows only gear up to a certain cost, 1.5k would be good I think?
Would like a server for pre-upkeep levels, but I doubt there would be enough people to play on it.
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imo it should be (mostly if not completely) by K:D ratio (for all your chars) based. K:D ratio may not be the optimal formula, but from all I can think of it still represents the skill in a best way.
it could work in this way:
- if you have K:D on veteran servers below 1:2 you're allowed to play on noob servers without penalty
- but at the same time if you have K:D on noob server above 2:1 you can't play there without a penalty
- K:D ratio would be measure after you would get like 400 kills on each of the server type. before you could play anywhere without limits.
this way the access would be a bit restricted to those that play already decently on veteran servers. and those that would master the noob server would be forced to go to veteran one. still you could join noob servers (with penalties of course) anytime - so for example if you play with your beginner friends you still can play together.
- penalty could be limited gear access, reduced stats and not gaining any multiplier
The problem with this is that some playstyles tend to kill less than other playstyles, I.E, Standard HA vs Lancer, or Pike vs 2h. K/D means very little most of the time.
I really wish there was an assist stat. :(
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could see it for gen 1 only