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cRPG => Ban/Unban Requests => Closed Requests => Topic started by: _RXN_ on April 28, 2012, 11:11:03 pm

Title: [Ban] Yurnero_da_nailsgifta
Post by: _RXN_ on April 28, 2012, 11:11:03 pm
Eu_cRPG_2 30 min ago

Every round, every map, gets into hard to reach areas near flag, building weapon rack, completely blocks the passages by construction sites spam then throws an endless number of throwing lances from there.

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Title: Re: [Ban] Yurnero_da_nailsgifta
Post by: Oberyn on April 30, 2012, 11:23:18 am
Smart? How is this bannable?
Title: Re: [Ban] Yurnero_da_nailsgifta
Post by: Erzengel on April 30, 2012, 11:29:50 am
By using more than 2 Construction Sites at one place most of the time...
Title: Re: [Ban] Yurnero_da_nailsgifta
Post by: _RXN_ on April 30, 2012, 11:48:49 am
When you as attacker get to the flag, with a great difficulty bypassing all the defenders lines, near the flag is a guy that is spamming his throwing lances. You can't do anything to him and you can't take the flag because you can't break all construction sites placed in the same place and because you're getting a lance in a head when you're trying to do it. It's not funny, man.
Title: Re: [Ban] Yurnero_da_nailsgifta
Post by: Artmarius on April 30, 2012, 07:09:55 pm
Quote from: Churchill on April 30, 2012, 11:29:50 am
By using more than 2 Construction Sites at one place most of the time...

So..... if uh put 3 c.sites at f*ckin open field  - it's spam?
Title: Re: [Ban] Yurnero_da_nailsgifta
Post by: Erzengel on April 30, 2012, 07:13:58 pm
Do you place them on an open field? No, you use them to block the only way to you. If somebody destroys one, you place another one. So what is the point?
Title: Re: [Ban] Yurnero_da_nailsgifta
Post by: Artmarius on April 30, 2012, 07:22:15 pm
Yep

But its not point of da game. more then - on siege.

As u see at that screenes - uhm not blockin way to flag.


Title: Re: [Ban] Yurnero_da_nailsgifta
Post by: Erzengel on April 30, 2012, 08:08:04 pm
It is not about blocking the flag... It is about you hiding behind several Construction Sites and Siege Shields while spamming endless Throwing Lances which nearly onehit. You can't be attacked in close combat and it is very difficult to hit you with ranged attacks. That is the point. If you think that this is a fair playstyle I can't help you anymore...
Title: Re: [Ban] Yurnero_da_nailsgifta
Post by: Jarlek on April 30, 2012, 09:14:40 pm
Quote from: Oberyn on April 30, 2012, 11:23:18 am
Smart? How is this bannable?
Some people are just mad that he uses a tactic other than "rush in".
Title: Re: [Ban] Yurnero_da_nailsgifta
Post by: Erzengel on April 30, 2012, 09:53:13 pm
Extreme Construction Site spam, what a genius tactic Jarlek. :rolleyes: You are really easy to impress...  :P
Title: Re: [Ban] Yurnero_da_nailsgifta
Post by: Jarlek on April 30, 2012, 09:59:08 pm
Quote from: Churchill on April 30, 2012, 09:53:13 pm
Extreme Construction Site spam, what a genius tactic Jarlek. :rolleyes: You are really easy to impress...  :P
Still more advanced than what any of you guys do  :lol:
Title: Re: [Ban] Yurnero_da_nailsgifta
Post by: Harafat on April 30, 2012, 10:41:33 pm
Sorry, but i agree with zapper here.

This guy, from what i have seen myself, places his boxes NOT in the way of other people. He's smart enough to get himself an unending supply of those lances. i mean wtf you're supposed to do as Lance-user? throw 2 and suicide?

I witnessed this myself, he's just a smart guy and those boxes are easily broken if you really want to.
Title: Re: [Ban] Yurnero_da_nailsgifta
Post by: Erzengel on April 30, 2012, 11:07:39 pm
I don't get it. Where is the smart part of simply spamming things out of a Construction Box? There is a reason why throwing weapons have an ammo limit. It is nearly impossible to destroy these boxes on most maps. The combination of Construction Sites, Siege Shields and unlimited onehitting Throwing Lances is just too strong, because it makes you nearly immune to most attacks while dealing tons of damage. Why do you think ladders were removed from battle? It might be ok when only one player uses this "strategy" but wait until more guys start doing this. Have fun getting spammed by endless Throwing Lances... Good luck capturing the flag....
Title: Re: [Ban] Yurnero_da_nailsgifta
Post by: _RXN_ on April 30, 2012, 11:12:45 pm
Churchill, thank you for your support and understanding of the problem.
Title: Re: [Ban] Yurnero_da_nailsgifta
Post by: Artmarius on April 30, 2012, 11:19:12 pm
And one more thing ...

uh had NEVER reach at topfrager's scorebar.

Played about a 2 weeks 25-31 lvl at that style.

Maximum - 15-20 fralg at 6 rounds ( or 3)

Lances are shity accuracy. 

Yes , they hit hard . But makin from myself a OP TOP\God Killer - its impossible whit it.
Title: Re: [Ban] Yurnero_da_nailsgifta
Post by: Erzengel on May 01, 2012, 12:42:12 am
You simply don't get the point of this discussion. Your personal kill/death ratio doesn't matter. The problem is what happens when more people begin to use this "playstyle". Imagine a flag or ladder that is defended by 5-10 people who all can throw unlimited Throwing Lances and the attackers have nearly no chance to reach or shoot them. We are not playing some kind of tower defense... You don't need high accuracy to hit a crowd that trys to capture the flag or climbs a ladder. This is all about the question if there should be a class in the game that can't be attacked in melee, is very hard to shoot and on top of that can also kill (in theory) endless enemies from distance. I simply can't understand how anybody could want something like this.

Quote from: Zapper on April 30, 2012, 09:59:08 pm
Still more advanced than what any of you guys do  :lol:

Perhaps, but looming a Torch and attention whoring 24/7 because of it also isn't what I would call "advanced". Same goes for using a Long Spear in Siege. But thats perhaps only my simple minded opinion. No offence dude. ;)
Title: Re: [Ban] Yurnero_da_nailsgifta
Post by: Jarlek on May 01, 2012, 02:22:46 am
Quote from: Churchill on May 01, 2012, 12:42:12 am
Perhaps, but looming a Torch and attention whoring 24/7 because of it also isn't what I would call "advanced". Same goes for using a Long Spear in Siege. But thats perhaps only my simple minded opinion. No offence dude. ;)
Oh noes! Somebody tries to have FUN! What shall we do! He must be banned since he doesn't go 2hander build and use a Danish/Great Maul/Morning Star!
Title: Re: [Ban] Yurnero_da_nailsgifta
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on May 01, 2012, 05:00:59 am
He isn't blocking the map. He is blocking access to himself. If you bring a shielder and a thrower up you can take him out. I would think planting more than 1 in one spot could be considered abuse.

However this isn't bannable. He should be warned officially if this is considered explointing or rule breaking. You can't ban some one and then say "these are now the rules". He is right on the edge of the current rules but he isn't breaking them because he isn't jamming up choke points and stoping the flow of the map, he is making a bunker and going ape shit.

"# No siege equipment spam

    * OK: Planting ladders to get to roofs or walls
    * OK: Blocking a door with a construction site
    * OK: Planting siege shields to provide cover from ranged fire
    * NOT OK: Creating a weapon rack and spawning more than a few items to block movement

# If you're stuck, change team to spectators or rejoin the server, otherwise you will be considered a leecher." - CMP

He is only using a "few" so he is more or less safe.
Title: Re: [Ban] Yurnero_da_nailsgifta
Post by: autobus on May 01, 2012, 05:19:47 am
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NOT OK: Creating a weapon rack and spawning more than a few items to block movement

4-5 csites is more than 'few'.
hannibal_lecter was banned for spawning 3 of them.
Title: Re: [Ban] Yurnero_da_nailsgifta
Post by: Jarlek on May 01, 2012, 02:30:22 pm
Quote from: Kikimoure on May 01, 2012, 05:19:47 am
4-5 csites is more than 'few'.
hannibal_lecter was banned for spawning 3 of them.
In the screens I only see one c-site placed to block movement, at a time. :/
Title: Re: [Ban] Yurnero_da_nailsgifta
Post by: _RXN_ on May 01, 2012, 02:33:25 pm
Quote from: Zapper on May 01, 2012, 02:30:22 pm
In the screens I only see one c-site placed to block movement, at a time. :/

No man, there's 3 construction sites in the same place.
Title: Re: [Ban] Yurnero_da_nailsgifta
Post by: Thovex on May 01, 2012, 03:28:53 pm
Quote from: Zapper on May 01, 2012, 02:30:22 pm
In the screens I only see one c-site placed to block movement, at a time. :/

That is atleast 3 Jarlek.
Title: Re: [Ban] Yurnero_da_nailsgifta
Post by: Tennenoth on May 01, 2012, 03:41:08 pm
Alrighty, to stop the endless crap, as stated by FRANK_THE_TANK having quoted the official rules, the screenshot offender is breaking the rules.

I will not ban this player because I don't believe he'd be able to write an understandable unban essay however this is a warning, stop doing this or you will be banned.

It's not a "tactic", it's exploiting, there's a difference.

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