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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: pepejul on April 25, 2012, 12:36:02 am
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Hello gentlemen,
I have 8 athle and always play with crappy light clothes.... but htere is so many hard armored fighter who run faster than me.....
I only remember Krokotili but there is many others...
Does "speed hax" really exist ? Or some pple is 9 athle and strong (how many skill points ?)
thanks to ask me....or not
:D
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No, they don't.
You have to count all the weight you are carrying, I run slow as a chadz when I've got my boxes and shit but when drop them and whip out my... dagger, I run like lightning and boy is it fun :D
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I have only one weapon and no sand in my poket 8-)
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You're probably measuring your speed relative to other people before you have started sprinting. You don't start sprinting until you have been doing nothing but running for several seconds. Any action you take will cancel that.
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Your speed is affected by many things other than just athletics and weight. Terrain can slow you down (e.g. the floors inside some castles), using your weapons to attack or block (e.g. raising your shield slows you down, and continues to do so for about two seconds after you do it), or even just going up hill.
Try this: Spend the first minute of a round without attacking or blocking. Run about, distract people, and avoid projectiles. It'll show more starkly the contrast between forward sprinting and folks who block and attack more often. It'll also give you a better sense of how different terrain can affect how you're moving.
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It is doable, but because hard to tell because of the athletics/weight system (well, unless they exaggerate massively).
But you can have ath 9 and a strenght of 18 (without IF and nearly no WM).
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Afaik wielding longer weapons slows you down. 1handed weapons are penalised more than 2h/pole of the same length. Carrying more than 1 shield make you extra slow too.
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Paul is correct on all points.
Remember, Swords for show, Knives for a pro.
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Also, the higher your athletics the more you are slowed in areas that modify movement speed. High athletics gets a larger penalty than lower athletics 'cause it's percentage-based. Fun, fun, fun!
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The real explanation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9qXbgrx9rg&t=1m20s
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I m ok with your explains...
But on same terrain... how can you explain the man behind me swinging with his big 2H sword and wearing a big helmet and plate can hit me, and kill me and rape my bloody corpse ?
I think my longawlpike is heavy.... maybe... Speed hax exists and it is used sometimes.... :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Also, the higher your athletics the more you are slowed in areas that modify movement speed. High athletics gets a larger penalty than lower athletics 'cause it's percentage-based. Fun, fun, fun!
Yeah I love it when a full STR build in plate zips by me and my 5 athletics
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your awlpike is heavy and long, both reduce your speed.
Also, if you are referring to get hit in the back, I reckon that also slows you down and you have to accelerate from scratch.
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Max speed has little to do with agi, ath or light armor.
They increase acceleration, but not top speed that much.
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using a 1h sword makes you slower then a 2h / pole? WTF!?!?!?!?
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using a 1h sword makes you slower then a 2h / pole? WTF!?!?!?!?
Of similar length.
And if you carry a shield, you will be slower no matter the weapons.
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Don't forget that the rain also screws high athletics people over.
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PEPE you truly are the best of the best.
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TY...
Exemple : Vincent Ruth is in plate with flamberge...and he run faster than me... kill me while I m running trying to escape (((
He his lvl 33 with 18/21 built I think (He said it)...he carry a German great sword on his back + flamberge
EDIT : I run faster than him, but he's better in fight that's all )))
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I only remember Krokotili but there is many others...
:D
You really doubt me? :cry: I'd never cheat :cry:
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I think you are just better in fight than me.... when someone kills me I always think it's because of hax or cheat cause I m so proud :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
(everybody knows you have rocket boots to run faster) :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Exemple : Vincent Ruth is in plate with flamberge...and he run faster than me... kill me while I m running trying to escape (((
He his lvl 33 with 18/21 built I think (He said it)...he carry a German great sword on his back + flamberge
EDIT : I run faster than him, but he's better in fight that's all )))
Congratulations Pepe, your IQ has finally reached the stage where you can be considered Bandit material.
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LOL gnjus...
Bandit_LordSnow has great IQ too ? :wink:
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I know !
I was runing rear ! :mrgreen:
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There is also something strange with the terrain sometimes. It seems to be even or just slightly waved and you lose like half of your athletics while sb running meter away is on his full speed. The loss of athletics is pretty much annoying while you are on EU_2 or other siege. It happens that there are some stone floors and they reduce your athletics like if were running on the sticky-glue surface. No speed hax
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Hello gentlemen,
It's YOU!
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OFC it's me !
:D
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I believe elmuri krokotili is 15/27 or something along those lines.
I always thought that 1h had a smaller base speed reduction than weapons in the 1h/2h group or the 2h group. Is that true? Why the hell aren't waltf4's post stickied somewhere or are they?
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All of these penalties add up to the reason why I don't bother with athletics anymore. The only reason I bother with agility is for the WM needed to have enough WPF to have any reasonable amount of accuracy. If I were melee, I see no reason to bother with either. You can both catch the agility players and have enough WPF without WM, so why not just stack PS and IF?
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Ath is good for rage ball.. And that is best way to make and keep x5 in my opinion.
Good idea if u wanna sprint through a gen.
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All of these penalties add up to the reason why I don't bother with athletics anymore. The only reason I bother with agility is for the WM needed to have enough WPF to have any reasonable amount of accuracy. If I were melee, I see no reason to bother with either. You can both catch the agility players and have enough WPF without WM, so why not just stack PS and IF?
yeap agreed. athletics build aint worth it when a dude in plate with 5 athletics can run in the same ballpark.
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I believe elmuri krokotili is 15/27 or something along those lines.
Not yet :( but soon..
I believe the reason why I catched pepe once might be that I have 1 more agipoint, altough we both have 8 athletics.
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but I was light stuffed )))
Athle skill is very usefull to escape when a big tincan wants to crush your skull... you hit...you run..he rages....you hit..you run...he rages....
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Back pedal FTW
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Tested ba ma self - 13\30
10 athl
5 ps
3 wpf at polearm.
Light robe and shoes . Pike - 3.0 weight. 300 length
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Sucks.
Same shit as u say - Uh just cant dodge any other ppl in heavy\medium armors.
Few times it was possible - rly tight guys whit full plates and mauls.
tested not only backsteps. side\back steps> front side steps . quik body switches ( and all whit 300 range hits)
just cant get it....why da hell enemys are da same speed.
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but I was light stuffed )))
Athle skill is very usefull to escape when a big tincan wants to crush your skull... you hit...you run..he rages....you hit..you run...he rages....
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Back pedal FTW
I prefer using clanmates as meatshields. :)
As an 8 athletics using lightly armoured archer, I don't appear to have the same problems as you for outrunning people. Elmuri puts up a good fight in races but he can never quite keep up with me. There were probably a number of different factors that slowed you down but I only have trouble outrunning Dado with his dagger and whatever level of athletics he actually has.
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I prefer using clanmates as meatshields. :)
As an 8 athletics using lightly armoured archer, I don't appear to have the same problems as you for outrunning people. Elmuri puts up a good fight in races but he can never quite keep up with me. There were probably a number of different factors that slowed you down but I only have trouble outrunning Dado with his dagger and whatever level of athletics he actually has.
7 athl
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yeah that reminded me why i quit 2h. i had 16/24 build and i used haumbergeon,rus boots,bascinet and sow and had 8 athl and 6wm and other dudes with heraldic trans armors,klappeviser,danish gs were faster then me.