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cRPG => Beginner's Help and Guides => Topic started by: martyrAD on April 23, 2012, 05:03:12 am

Title: Best Dueling polearms.
Post by: martyrAD on April 23, 2012, 05:03:12 am
as the title says, what are some of the best/better dueling weapons in the polearms category?
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Post by: Shatter on April 23, 2012, 05:30:58 am
War Spear and Bec come to mind.

Any of the poleaxes are pretty good too.
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Post by: PikeDan on April 23, 2012, 01:02:18 pm
Hafted and Long Hafted Blade come to mind as well, also the Long Bardiche.

I have a personal like for the Great Long Bardiche, but the unbalanced weight of the weapon turns most people off. It doesn't bother me most of the time, seeing as I don't feint that much anyway
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Post by: Vibe on April 23, 2012, 01:07:55 pm
I'd say LHB or Glaive
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Post by: Gurnisson on April 23, 2012, 01:23:22 pm
Poleaxe and LHB
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Post by: Boerenlater on April 23, 2012, 01:52:09 pm
Qstaff
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Post by: Mlekce on April 23, 2012, 02:27:01 pm
poleaxe.
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Post by: Dezilagel on April 23, 2012, 03:01:39 pm
War Spear, Glavie, the Poleaxes, LHB.

The Scythe and Fauchard are pretty epic for dueling as well, but boring.

The Practice Lance is incredibly underrated, but not really top-tier.

My personal favourite for pure dueling is probably the War Spear (Red Tassel is a tad weak), but then I see duels as practice for battle so I'd advice you to use whatever gear you use in battle.
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Post by: Ronin on April 23, 2012, 05:41:03 pm
Swiss halberd can be a good weapon if you know how to use it as well. I've seen a guy who does that in duel servers.
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Post by: Kafein on April 23, 2012, 06:55:08 pm
Poleaxe.
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Post by: Fartface on April 23, 2012, 07:01:27 pm
Glaive is realy good.
Title: Re: Best Dueling polearms.
Post by: martyrAD on April 23, 2012, 11:39:43 pm
Ok ill probably use the warspear. namely because i still wanna hoplite at times. but when i find mysellf solo i dont wanna be totally at a disadvantage...

build wise im still torn between a 24/15 & 18/21
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Post by: Vodner on April 23, 2012, 11:47:31 pm
Ok ill probably use the warspear. namely because i still wanna hoplite at times. but when i find mysellf solo i dont wanna be totally at a disadvantage...

build wise im still torn between a 24/15 & 18/21
If you're familiar with polearm animations, then 18/21 is almost certainly the better choice. You will have enough ath to help get yourself out of nasty situations, and you'll be better able to use footwork to sneak hits in. Also, as a hoplite you'll be far better able to stick yourself where you are useful. You will be relying primarily on polestun to line up kills for teammates (the warspear doesn't deal much damage with a shield).

If not, then 24/15 will help prevent glancing, and will let you score kills with fewer hits. 5 ath is enough to footwork decently in a 1v1 with a weapon as long as the warspear, but it isn't enough to keep yourself from getting surrounded in battle (so you'll have to pay extra attention to what both teams are doing).

Make sure to put your shield away vs a competent opponent in a 1v1 scenario. I can't think of anything less intimidating than a hoplite in that situation.
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Post by: Kato on April 24, 2012, 12:15:00 am
Good dueling polearms for fun duels (for both participants) :D:
hafted blade
long hafted blade
poleaxes
warspear

Duels that will be fun only for you (lot of cursing as bonus) :lol::
Ashwood pike or Awlpike
glaive
bardiches
fauchard, scythe
Title: Re: Best Dueling polearms.
Post by: martyrAD on April 24, 2012, 01:01:43 am
Good dueling polearms for fun duels (for both participants) :D:
hafted blade
long hafted blade
poleaxes
warspear

Duels that will be fun only for you (lot of cursing as bonus) :lol::
Ashwood pike or Awlpike
glaive
bardiches
fauchard, scythe

i havent master'd the 2 directional weapons, probably because im a terrible fainter...
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Post by: Formaldehyde Junkie on April 24, 2012, 03:20:52 am
should consider going 21/18 also. That was my build for awhile and it seemed to work quite well while using war spear.
Title: Re: Best Dueling polearms.
Post by: martyrAD on April 24, 2012, 03:38:15 am
see everyone mentions footwork to me from time to time, but i havent a clue wtf that means?
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Post by: Vodner on April 24, 2012, 04:31:55 am
see everyone mentions footwork to me from time to time, but i havent a clue wtf that means?
Moving your character with the intent it to sneak hits in, to avoid hits, to force glances, and to position yourself advantageously in group combat. The faster you are, the more options there are that open up.
Title: Re: Best Dueling polearms.
Post by: martyrAD on April 24, 2012, 04:50:06 am
so ath has something to do with it, yet i know a few players with none.... and they do well, i guess its just another ill never truly understand :'(
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Post by: martyrAD on April 24, 2012, 07:22:02 am
also what armor looks best with the battle fork? preferably light armor...
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Post by: Fartface on April 30, 2012, 12:28:24 pm
I used reinforced nomad armour with battefork.
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Post by: Armpit_Sweat on April 30, 2012, 01:51:40 pm
Poleaxe.

My favorite.

Qstaff

If you have 7+ ath. Or against someone with short weapon. Otherwise the backpaddling spammers will get you :)




Title: Re: Best Dueling polearms.
Post by: Gurnisson on April 30, 2012, 01:53:31 pm
My favorite.

If you have 7+ ath. Or against someone with short weapon. Otherwise the backpaddling spammers will get you :)

You don't really make much sense here. The difference between Quarter Staff's length and Poleaxe's length is 4. How can poleaxe be your favourite while the quarter staff is much too short? They're almost the same length-wise :|
Title: Re: Best Dueling polearms.
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on April 30, 2012, 02:15:25 pm
You don't really make much sense here. The difference between Quarter Staff's length and Poleaxe's length is 4. How can poleaxe be your favourite while the quarter staff is much too short? They're almost the same length-wise :|

Something with animation I guess, thrust/stab on a poleaxe seems to be much longer.

Lets say if someone with Great Danish is charging me - i can prepare my poleaxe for thrusting, and take a chance on attacking first. With a staff - its not an option, I will have to block. Overhead swing seems to be very short on staffs too :(

That might be just an optical illusion of cause...
Title: Re: Best Dueling polearms.
Post by: Gurnisson on April 30, 2012, 02:19:05 pm
Something with animation I guess, thrust/stab on a poleaxe seems to be much longer.

Lets say if someone with Great Danish is charging me - i can prepare my poleaxe for thrusting, and take a chance on attacking first. With a staff - its not an option, I will have to block. Overhead swing seems to be very short on staffs too :(

That might be just an optical illusion of cause...

Yes, it is, Quarter Staff is only 4 points shorter on all animations. You're not talking about Iron Staff? That one's quite a bit shorter than the quarter one. Also, if you out-thrust some greatsword user with a poleaxe he might just be the worst player ever. :lol:
Title: Re: Best Dueling polearms.
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on April 30, 2012, 02:36:23 pm
Yes, it is, Quarter Staff is only 4 points shorter on all animations. You're not talking about Iron Staff? That one's quite a bit shorter than the quarter one. Also, if you out-thrust some greatsword user with a poleaxe he might just be the worst player ever. :lol:

OK, ok, you got me i guess :)

I would probably not try to counter-thrust a Greatsword, but against a side swing its possible. Let me keep some of my dignity :)

There is something special about poleaxe - it puts fear of god into peasants when i start chaining feints. On the other hand - no one really takes a staff user seriously. There is no "holly shit, i better keep my block up and stay away from that awesome guy" factor about staffs...

Title: Re: Best Dueling polearms.
Post by: Son Of Odin on April 30, 2012, 03:17:03 pm
If you have 7+ ath. Or against someone with short weapon. Otherwise the backpaddling spammers will get you :)

Backpeddling spammers won't get you if you don't follow them ^^
Title: Re: Best Dueling polearms.
Post by: Ronin on April 30, 2012, 03:45:32 pm
OK, ok, you got me i guess :)

I would probably not try to counter-thrust a Greatsword, but against a side swing its possible. Let me keep some of my dignity :)

There is something special about poleaxe - it puts fear of god into peasants when i start chaining feints. On the other hand - no one really takes a staff user seriously. There is no "holly shit, i better keep my block up and stay away from that awesome guy" factor about staffs...
It might be poleaxe is a high damage, and quarter staff is not. So basically, you have to be careful with the staff to not make it glance and with poleaxe you can swing safely.