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Title: Throwing DAGGERS
Post by: Grey on March 15, 2011, 12:06:41 am
I have heard/read rumours that throwing is to be changed, not nerfed, and well I have been thinking about something for some time, probably a very simple addition for such genius as is chadz, and could be added on maybe to any future patches:

Throwing Daggers....they ARE daggers....would it be possible to add X function, to use them as melee daggers? Same stats as current "dagger" or maybe slight range reduction (36 -> 34) and use the model of throwing dagger, inverted, as melee model? Javelins swap ends quick-as-a-flash, to poke AND block, these would not even allow block function, but WOULD allow super agile backstabbing bandits...

And we ALL love bandits....
Title: Re: Throwing DAGGERS
Post by: Mak33 on March 15, 2011, 03:33:31 pm
I've always wondered the same thing... why daggers have no secondary option for melee.  As for one, I just killed an Ishtar HA with a dagger...
Title: Re: Throwing DAGGERS
Post by: Grey on March 15, 2011, 06:05:08 pm
i got 2 nice dagger kills as an archer on druzhina guys, they were TOTALLY not expecting backpedaling archer to become stabby mcstabface.....
Title: Re: Throwing DAGGERS
Post by: Templar_Ratigan on March 15, 2011, 10:02:52 pm
Pff just remove throwing, it isnt worth the hassle... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Throwing DAGGERS
Post by: Baggy on March 15, 2011, 10:24:56 pm
Pff just remove throwing, it isnt worth the hassle... :rolleyes:
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Title: Re: Throwing DAGGERS
Post by: SeQuel on March 15, 2011, 11:04:03 pm
Pff just remove throwing, it isnt worth the hassle... :rolleyes:
+1
Title: Re: Throwing DAGGERS
Post by: The_Newer_Wind on March 15, 2011, 11:58:04 pm
I think that they are to short to be melee weapons. But sure, its pretty easy actually, so why not?
Title: Re: Throwing DAGGERS
Post by: MrShovelFace on March 16, 2011, 12:10:23 am
isnt if funny how chadz lets us use rocks in the melee but daggers are out of the question?
Title: Re: Throwing DAGGERS
Post by: Patricia on March 16, 2011, 02:38:03 am
isnt if funny how chadz lets us use rocks in the melee but daggers are out of the question?

He's just too lazy to implement the new model/animation thing for it, most likely.
Title: Re: Throwing DAGGERS
Post by: Seawied on March 16, 2011, 04:52:13 am
He's just too lazy to implement the new model/animation thing for it, most likely.

Its more an issue with how the M&B engine does not like to turn weapons around. You can change your attack animation, but the pokey side has to stay the same regardless of the animation. This is why we have half-swording, but no melee usable daggers.
Title: Re: Throwing DAGGERS
Post by: John on March 16, 2011, 12:43:03 pm
What? What about javelins, throwing spears, jarids, and throwing lances?  Those turn around just fine.
Title: Re: Throwing DAGGERS
Post by: Seawied on March 17, 2011, 06:28:14 pm
Notice that you throw with the pointy side towards the opponent, and stab with them that way. Unless I'm mistaken, throwing daggers are thrown with the hilt towards the opponent, which causes this problem.
Title: Re: Throwing DAGGERS
Post by: Noely on March 18, 2011, 04:53:19 am
Pff just remove throwing, it isnt worth the hassle... :rolleyes:


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edit: thats the character for infinity
Title: Re: Throwing DAGGERS
Post by: Grey on March 18, 2011, 01:25:23 pm
Notice that you throw with the pointy side towards the opponent, and stab with them that way. Unless I'm mistaken, throwing daggers are thrown with the hilt towards the opponent, which causes this problem.

Take a look at javelins, in throwing mode, at REST position, pointy end is backwards, downwards. Press X and pointy end is opposite.....it doesnt turn, just switches around......looks ok enough for javelins, so why not daggers...problem COULD stem from there not being a dagger tip on the model, since it goes from "tip in hand" to "tip in enemy/floor/shield" but I dont think so, just hasnt been any demand for it, so now we create the demand, and maybe chadz delivers??

I think that they are to short to be melee weapons. But sure, its pretty easy actually, so why not?

Dagger and stones are both melee weapons right now, dont see how a throwing dagger can be shorter than a stone with u hold completely in ur fist.......and Ive got a few kills with those btw, blunt dmg ftw.