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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: HassassinJOE on April 13, 2012, 03:39:06 am
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the guy has 18 str 6 iron skin.. leather jerkin armour (normal)..
i have 16 str, 5 power throw, normal war darts at 25p...
i hit him 7 times to kill him.. 6 on the front 1 on the back...
throwing weapons simply dont do enough damige...
im on a mount throwing them at people... where is the bonus from speed added while mounted.
I tried to attach the image but i cannot seem to do it.
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im on a mount throwing them at people... where is the bonus from speed added while mounted.
AFAIK speed bonus for projectiles on horseback doesn't take into account your speed, just theirs relative to your position when thrown.
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yeah only their speed bonus matters. Yours doesn't give bonus.
Also war darts? That's a harrassment weapon...PT2 required. Try a real one.
Third sorry to tell you but pure thrower is a gimmick build, and horse thrower is an even bigger gimmick. They are just not very effective. Throwing is most effective as a compliment for normal infantry (hyrbid)...
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Isn't there some sort of mounted ranged damage reduction as well, or am I crazy?
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Do you have the wpf for your PT, out of curiosity? This does seem rather odd.
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dont use low tier throwing weapons. Even with 6 pt and enough wpf they do next to no damage
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Fix throwing, I've taken throwing lances to the body in a worn desert robe with 21str 4 IF and lived, it's just not right.
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Throwing is not weak. War darts are weak ;)
I use throwing lances with 27/12 build. I think it's a bit unfair I can 1 hit kill so many people.
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Throwing is not weak. War darts are weak ;)
I use throwing lances with 27/12 build. I think it's a bit unfair I can 1 hit kill so many people.
Considering how you can wield a max of 4 lances (maybe more with heirlooms I don't know anything about them) that means at most you'll get 4 kills a round by throwing them.
That fucking blows. I was even able to survive 2 of them the other day with 70 hp and 52 body armor (was running away from them so they were hurt from speed bonus, and I was black barred... but still).
I strongly believe that throwing lances should be 1 hit kills in almost all situations, given how many downsides they have.
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Considering how you can wield a max of 4 lances (maybe more with heirlooms I don't know anything about them) that means at most you'll get 4 kills a round by throwing them.
you can wield a max of infinity since you can pick them up off the ground when they miss
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Considering how you can wield a max of 4 lances (maybe more with heirlooms I don't know anything about them) that means at most you'll get 4 kills a round by throwing them.
That fucking blows. I was even able to survive 2 of them the other day with 70 hp and 52 body armor (was running away from them so they were hurt from speed bonus, and I was black barred... but still).
I strongly believe that throwing lances should be 1 hit kills in almost all situations, given how many downsides they have.
Again, pure throwing is pretty much a gimmick build, even in history nobody did that. Famous throwing armies like the Romans or Vikings/Franks had their regular soldiers throwing them before the melee. Throwing is special since its main purpose is as a sidearm catagory of weapons. You just can't try and balance it around people who are trying to make it their only weapon, it's just fact they gotta deal with that they're going to struggle if they insist on trying to take a limited purpose sidearm weapon and making it their main attack.
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Im sure Chestacles with have something to say about this
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you can wield a max of infinity since you can pick them up off the ground when they miss
...until you do something useful and hit someone.
Again, pure throwing is pretty much a gimmick build, even in history nobody did that. Famous throwing armies like the Romans or Vikings/Franks had their regular soldiers throwing them before the melee. Throwing is special since its main purpose is as a sidearm catagory of weapons. You just can't try and balance it around people who are trying to make it their only weapon, it's just fact they gotta deal with that they're going to struggle if they insist on trying to take a limited purpose sidearm weapon and making it their main attack.
It's a gimmick build because it isn't balanced. When something requires 7 PT and a 98 effective wpf to be useable, you can only carry 4, and they don't always 1 hit kill, that's a bad item.
High tier throwing should be buffed or removed in favor of more low tier options to fulfill the hybrid role better.
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Try throwing axes with cut damage. They are better attacking someone in low-tier armor (leather jerkin).
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Alright so at first what do you think should deal more damage, throwing lances or heavy lance from speeding horse? Impact, speed bonus and other factors whisper that horseman should deal bigger damage, because his lance is heavier and it looses less force on the armour because of strong way of holding it. But here there are some people that survive many many lance hits so I find it a total bullshit. Came here just to say that heavy lance from speeding horse should deal more dmg than throwing lance.
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meh.
The problem with old throwing.. is getting hit point blank is fucking obnoxious.
The problem with new throwing - pretty much forget any cool long shots. Too many retards still throw their shit when they should switch to melee at a certain range. Half the time success only comes from point blank shots. Pretty much everything actually fun about throwing is gone - well like all classes, wave up on wave of nerfs continually eroding the fun out of cRPG .. better call it cRaPG unless the modders can take their collective heads out of their anuses.
Who gives a shit about throwing lances, those are for tards.
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I wish i could figure out how to tag a picture... i have several ive been meaning to post.. ALL are taken from NA 1 battle server. in battle not people kicking back. I was btw a hybrid thrower/polearms/shielder for the throwing element to be safe vs random lance attacks while weilding the darts
i used a military fork. 2 darts. and light cav round shield 115throwing 108polearms
i used jirads first.. but the damige vs ammo output was not enough, war darts are the most effective considering how often i missed.
my main concern on NA 1 was the mounted xbowmen.. primary task for me was to drop 2 or 3 before i got dropped. anti xbow cav aka operation distraction (because with good mounted xbowmen, ild be dead quick most times, just enough to hold them of the team for a while; SEMENSstorm and SS_Mr.DI@$) often i get my well bread rouncey 1 shotted, if not myself from 50yards away... xbow cav are way overpowered)
The problem was it takes like 2-6 jiards to drop most horses.. i didnt even try with armoured horses... with darts it takes like 5-8, but did the job with ammo left
throwing weapons should honestly do much more damige considering they are being paid for with skill points (and weight x speed). especially to horses. like axes to shields..