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Title: Blunt build?
Post by: Paprik on April 12, 2012, 12:29:27 am
What's better for blunt damage - 2hers? polearms? And which weapons would be best suited for this task? Probably the mauls, cause they have crushthrough right?

Also, what build should accompany such weapons? (almost) full str?
Title: Re: Blunt build?
Post by: Cup1d on April 12, 2012, 01:08:17 am
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 3
Agility: 39
Hit points: 38
Skills to attributes: 14
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 0
Shield: 12
Athletics: 0
Riding: 5
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 0
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 114

Steel shield, stones and plated charger. Ultimate blunt damage oriented build
Title: Re: Blunt build?
Post by: Boerenlater on April 12, 2012, 03:03:02 am
1H Iberian Mace + shield 24/15
Title: Re: Blunt build?
Post by: zagibu on April 12, 2012, 10:35:51 pm
1H Iberian Mace + shield 24/15

Deadly. 30/9 and a Mallet is also quite good. Or a Great Maul, but it's a tad overdone these days. Studded Warclub for style.
Title: Re: Blunt build?
Post by: Oggrinsky on April 13, 2012, 07:31:01 am
16/24 is great for building around the Long Hafted Spiked Mace, especially if it's +3.

    Strength: 16
    Agility: 24
    Hit points: 61

    Skills to attributes: 10

    Ironflesh: 5
    Power Strike: 5
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 8
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 3

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 133
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
Title: Re: Blunt build?
Post by: Vibe on April 13, 2012, 07:34:40 am
1H Iberian Mace + shield 15/24

Even better
Title: Re: Blunt build?
Post by: Paprik on April 13, 2012, 10:53:48 am
why iberian mace and not the longer military hammer? And doesn't strength increase chance to knockdown/crushthrough etc?
Title: Re: Blunt build?
Post by: Froto_the_Loc on April 13, 2012, 11:48:50 am
I suppose its a  taste problem.
I prefer the Military Hammer, because i prefer not to have to facehug people to hit them, but it is a tad slow feeling.

and knockdown is factored by either damage or weight, i cannot remember.
Title: Re: Blunt build?
Post by: Vibe on April 13, 2012, 02:24:24 pm
and knockdown is factored by either damage or weight, i cannot remember.

IIRC it is factored by PS, raw damage and STR.
Title: Re: Blunt build?
Post by: Ronin on April 13, 2012, 06:55:53 pm
16/24 is great for building around the Long Hafted Spiked Mace, especially if it's +3.

    Strength: 16
    Agility: 24
    Hit points: 61

Why 16 STR?
Title: Re: Blunt build?
Post by: Jarlek on April 13, 2012, 06:58:30 pm
IIRC it is factored by PS, raw damage and STR.
Yeah. But the knockdown chance is also capped (at 30% I think), so having LOADS of STR wont increase it, really. Anything from 15 STR and up would max out your knockdown chance, I guess (ofc, not with weapons like wooden stick etc).
Title: Re: Blunt build?
Post by: rustyspoon on April 13, 2012, 07:57:46 pm
IIRC it is factored by PS, raw damage and STR.

Weight is also a pretty big factor.

 (rand(0.0, 1.0) < min(item_weight * 0.33, 2.0) * min((raw_damage - 20.0) * 0.5, 10.0) * 0.015)
Title: Re: Blunt build?
Post by: Herkkutatti on April 13, 2012, 08:32:29 pm
30/9 10 ps and bar mace
Title: Re: Blunt build?
Post by: Elmokki on April 13, 2012, 11:12:40 pm
Weight is also a pretty big factor.

 (rand(0.0, 1.0) < min(item_weight * 0.33, 2.0) * min((raw_damage - 20.0) * 0.5, 10.0) * 0.015)

Weight is actually pretty much the only meaningful thing if you assume your blows won't have negative speed bonuses (though of course they sometimes will). To reach the cap of damage's effect you need to deal just 40 raw damage anyway, which happens with about any "proper" build and "proper" weapon.

So knockdown builds: get as heavy weapon as you can.
Title: Re: Blunt build?
Post by: Jarlek on April 14, 2012, 02:09:42 am
Weight is actually pretty much the only meaningful thing if you assume your blows won't have negative speed bonuses (though of course they sometimes will). To reach the cap of damage's effect you need to deal just 40 raw damage anyway, which happens with about any "proper" build and "proper" weapon.

So knockdown builds: get as heavy weapon as you can.
Just to clear it up for people. The 40 damage you need to do is the RAWR damage (as Elmokki correctly said). Raw damage is the damage you do before armour reduces damage.
Title: Re: Blunt build?
Post by: zagibu on April 14, 2012, 02:05:10 pm
Why 16 STR?

Probably because top tier armor has 16 req?