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Title: improve attack speed of the bastard weapon with shield
Post by: skkk on April 09, 2012, 04:22:22 pm
Many 1 hand  weapons ex.military sickle , langes messer..
they can be useful 2 hand weapons, and further , they only take "1"  slot.

but we know 2 hand bastard weapons(ex. bastard sword , long sword , morning star ..) with shield would be very  very slow ,
almostly can not be use.... and worst , they mostly take "2" slot !
since if you wanna use two type weapon , you will major in two type wpfs ..
why not make bastard weapon with shield more useful ?


this slow setting is from original native....
i suggest improve attack speed of the bastard weapon with shield
cause it be slowed to about 85% now (damage 85% too. i consider the part is acceptable, for #4)
, too slow to be used .
i think the panalty of bastard weapon with shield is minus 5 speed
ex. bastard sword: 2 hand speed 99 -> 1 hand 94
     h.bastard sword : 2hand speed 98-> 1 hand 93
     morning star : 2 hand speed 92 - > 1 hand 87
    katana : 2 hand speed 101 - > 1 hand 96

they wont be better than real 1 hand weapon ,  they just be usable.
same as 1 hand weapon used as 2 hand would not be better than real 2 hand weapon .
and dont forget they take "2" slot.
that's resonable, balance , and more flexible in builds .

spear with shield have 35% panelty in damage and speed, but spear have range advantage , 
and no matter with shield or without shield, you only major 1 wpf ,
the best proof is you can see spear + shield everywhere , but you cant see bastard weapon + shield


do you agree that ?


 

Title: Re: improve attack speed of the bastard weapon with shield
Post by: larlek on April 09, 2012, 04:24:11 pm
Yeah. Bastard sword needs to be good as a 1h and a 2h. It's the bastard child of a 2h and 1h sword so I do think it should get a bit of a buff in the 1h department.
Title: Re: improve attack speed of the bastard weapon with shield
Post by: Herkkutatti on April 09, 2012, 04:25:29 pm
make bastard sword to take only 1 slot!
Title: Re: improve attack speed of the bastard weapon with shield
Post by: Cup1d on April 09, 2012, 04:31:55 pm
Mw katana in 1 hand = 40 cut, 95 reach and 96 speed?

No.

+1 to bastard sword as 1 slot weapon
Title: Re: improve attack speed of the bastard weapon with shield
Post by: Peasant_Woman on April 09, 2012, 04:37:47 pm
I agree bastard weapons could use a small buff in 1 handed mode, mainly because...well...Have you ever fought someone using a morningstar + shield? Its like they're swinging in slow motion. Katana + shield is silly and shouldn't even BE a bastard weapon imo.
Title: Re: improve attack speed of the bastard weapon with shield
Post by: Sarpton on April 09, 2012, 04:38:18 pm
I agree in theory with the weapon speed upgrade,  but what about spears being used in 1h?  They get a 35% damage reduction and a 25% speed decrease.   Not to mention the miss/block stun you get with a spear.
Title: Re: improve attack speed of the bastard weapon with shield
Post by: Vexus on April 09, 2012, 04:52:01 pm
The damage/speed nerf on spears is on the ones longer than 140 so it's more fair than 2h with shield.
Title: Re: improve attack speed of the bastard weapon with shield
Post by: skkk on April 09, 2012, 04:57:16 pm
Mw katana in 1 hand = 40 cut, 95 reach and 96 speed?

No.

+1 to bastard sword as 1 slot weapon

it's damage 85% now too.
so                   Mw katana in 1 hand = 34 cut , 95 reach , 96 speed ,

compare to      Mw elite scimitar       = 34 cut , 100 reach , 100 speed,
                      Mw liuyedao              = 34 cut , 88 reach , 103 speed ,
                      Mw sword                 = 31 cut , 95 reach , 100 speed                                   


katana in 1 hand never better than real 1 hand .
it's just usable.
Title: Re: improve attack speed of the bastard weapon with shield
Post by: Thomek on April 09, 2012, 08:59:19 pm
But make it 1 slot so I can take a bamboo and/or some more jarids/snowflakes! :)