cRPG
cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: KillerofFlowers on March 28, 2012, 04:56:06 pm
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All i have to say is idk why it hasnt bene added yet.
Wouldn't a Roman clan be great? In my mind's eye I see Roman shield walls with spears behind them and horse-hair helmet centurions commanding the squads.
Roman shields are a lot like Rhodok board shields, only they a have more inward curve at the edges.
They would each carry a gladius double sided pointed shortsword. The 'Broad Shortsword' would suffice, pretty much.
They had a woolen tunic covered by a breastplate and significant, characteristic shoulder plates. The "Red Corrazina" armor is pretty close excluding the shoulder plates and the lack of breastplate. Close enough, anyway.
Roman soldiers would wear leather sandals. Those don't exist at the moment.
The Roman helmet had a characteristic shape, being completely solid metal coming over the sides of the head to a rounded top and then a visor coming off the back. The bascinet, open sallet, barbutte, spiked helmet, morion, and most other non-face covering, un-coiffed solid metal helmets would work. Centurions and other ranks used barbuttes with horse hair plumes on them.
Romans used crossbows, so that's checked out.
I understand that there is a formerly popular module full of Roman models. Heres the link: http://www.mbrepository.com/file.php?id=2368 (http://www.mbrepository.com/file.php?id=2368)
I really hope this is considered. I want to be a Roman! :D
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Roman armor would be WAY out of our already loose time period. Just wouldn't fit.
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I don't play a time period, I play an ahistorical video game. cRPG doesn't purport to be 'set' anywhere anymore, except in the minds of the most hardcore roleplayers. I don't see a good reason to not include Roman armours if (a) lots of people would like them (b) they're not gamebreaking top-quality gear and (c) they can be designed nicely. I'm fine with almost any new equipment so long as it satisfies a-c.
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Not only do we need Roman gear, we also need other gay equipment, like Village People attire.
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I can understand both parties, the "history addicts" and "its a game" faction. In general Id say if something is fun then implement it as this is what a game is for. But roman armor is too extreme even for my taste. It slightly drags the game into a super smash brothers theme, where a medivel sword fighter can compete against a space age space marine or vice versa. Well kinda.
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Yea, if we start going B.C. and early AD civilizations then people are going to demand Greek, Celtic and ancient Egyptian gear as well, amongst others. That's like a whole other Total war game lol.
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I'd be fine with that^ It'd be pretty shoddy equipment next to Milanese Plate and Italian Swords but I'd be fine with it.
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take the skoutatos armor, that's the closest you'll ever have!
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take the skoutatos armor, that's the closest you'll ever have!
Looks cool! Do you know of any full armour sets for earlier era gear?
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take the skoutatos armor, that's the closest you'll ever have!
I'm using the katafraktoi ATM but actual roman armour would be fun to use.
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Yea, if we start going B.C. and early AD civilizations then people are going to demand Greek, Celtic and ancient Egyptian gear as well, amongst others. That's like a whole other Total war game lol.
And what would be wrong with that?Would actually be pretty awesome...
It´s not like cRPG is even remotely uniformal anway.
We have Mongols, Japanese,A lot of different Europeans, Turks, arabs...
Why not some earlier stuff, too?
Wouldnt really hurt the gian picture...
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Make the game bigger, more bloated, add more aesthetic choices before fixing bugs. +1
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And what would be wrong with that?Would actually be pretty awesome...
It would be awesome, but I don't think the devs are up for such a colossal task..
Plus, I think their main focus atm is project strat anis
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Roman armor would be WAY out of our already loose time period. Just wouldn't fit.
Or... would it?
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you can just pull the armours out of this mod...http://www.mbrepository.com/file.php?id=3485 :)
and to the out of the time period debate about roman amour this game is already wide spread so just let it happen and move on Legio and Lost Legion have waited long enough lol
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Look, more than most folks, I love historical accuracy. But personally, I think it'd be great to have Roman or Greek weapons and armor. With all the talk of folks being Hoplites... it'd actually be awesome to wear the armor and use the weapons of true Greek Hoplites. I'd love to see a Xiphos (or roman Gladius) in game. I think the Throwing Lance and Huscral Shield could easily substitute in the Greek Hoplite armory. But there's really no short sword to substitute for the xiphos/gladius. Also, Roman Banded armor and Greek Breastplate would be nice to have.
And folks arguments seem to be that the Roman armor/weapons would be out of place in a game that is based on Medieval European weapons/armor. However, that's not the case for cRPG. Maybe the original M&B... but not cRPG. First off, the Middle Ages (Medieval) spanned from the 5th century AD to the 15th century. For 1000 years. To even have armors from the Mid-Medieval up against armors from late-Medieval is out of place. To have Norseman (Vikings) up against folks dressed in Gothic Full-Plate (which is actually 16th century, post-Medieval) is way out of place. Much less mix in Japanese Samurai armors/weapons... having folks play ninjas and everything in between.
Personally, I wouldn't be against seeing the Samurai and Eastern armors out of the game. But that's not going to happen. So why not bring in the Roman/Greek armors & weapons?
With all that said... I understand that there's more pressing matters at hand than adding new armors & weapons. But I ask... are those matters going to get addressed? If not, then why not spend that time on adding new armors & weapons. Also, if you can just borrow the skins for the armors & weapons from an existing mod... then I'd think it wouldn't be that time consuming (at least I think... I don't have such experience to really say so).
I think two of the most important aspects to keep the game fresh is... (1) New game modes (2) New inventory.
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Personally, I wouldn't be against seeing the Samurai and Eastern armors out of the game. But that's not going to happen. So why not bring in the Roman/Greek armors & weapons?
So basically, because you can't get rid of the shit on your left shoe, you want to cover your right shoe in shit as well, just to re-establish symmetry?
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So basically, because you can't get rid of the shit on your left shoe, you want to cover your right shoe in shit as well, just to re-establish symmetry?
Or you could say it as... if one group wants to eat shit, the other group should have to eat shit as well.
Or you could say it as... if one group gets to eat pie, the other group should get to eat pie.
We could use endless metaphors and riddles to make it our arguments should justified. But the plain truth is... that by no means is cRPG weapon & armor selection represent a certain historical era. And it's no just the Samurai stuff out of place. It's early Medieval, mid-Medieval, late Medieval (Europe) mixed with Eastern and Arabian armors (each from different time periods). Renaissance armors (a lot of the full plates). And many more.
With such variation... how could we say that Roman/Greek armor is out of place. Out of place from what? An armory that already stretches a vast time period and many cultures. Then why not include Roman/Greek.
Though I'd surely have fun looking like a true Greek Hoplite... at the end of the day, I'm personally cool with no Roman/Greek weapons & armors. But just saying, "What's good for the goose is good for the gander!"
Wait... not sure that one works! :P