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Title: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: engurrand on March 26, 2012, 06:29:04 am
Pretty much everyone says the same things and i'm tired of hearing it... so i'm posting this here..

Basically "we" (don't ask) have the opportunity to build a small city in a very valuable region.. the local population there is quite small.

There is a problem because a lot of the land was sold with "fake titles" by people who did not own the land, and now that "we" are coming in hell is being raised..

Most of "us" are foreigners to this country.... and i'm torn between the globalist agenda to make the whole globe one seamless nation, or just leaving the locals alone..

Bottom line is this... some of them have to die, because there have been some murders and now they are vandalizing local towns and spreading unrest.

note: we have not begun any development / construction yet.... but all legal prospects with the government have been handled and we have the "OK"...

Omg.....
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: Earthdforce on March 26, 2012, 06:31:58 am
Er.. what?
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: engurrand on March 26, 2012, 06:33:26 am
yea multinational development is a real thing..

get over it..

Jesus didn't anyone go to college here?
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: engurrand on March 26, 2012, 06:34:52 am
I need someone to help me understand what i should do..

I don't want the land to be stained with blood in the name of our development, but the fucking higher ups already ignored my idea 2 years ago to send in scouts to asses the locals and create  a plan that directly involves their long term well being.

damn it...

so fucking morally torn.
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: Earthdforce on March 26, 2012, 06:35:12 am
yea multinational development is a real thing..

get over it..

Jesus didn't anyone go to college here?
Sorry, who are you? And get the hell off the high horse bro
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: larlek on March 26, 2012, 06:36:31 am
Gaijin go home!
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: engurrand on March 26, 2012, 06:46:37 am
it doesn't matter who i am..

I'm asking for peoples opinions on this matter.

It is so easy to see how the world is all connected when you start considering the way "money" flows from various people in different countries into one unit of investment for the development of a specific piece of land in a region that the investors need not even live close to.

What is wrong with development?

What should the world do with it's money?

Build more cities? build more houses? create more space for people to have some type of life?

Oh yea, we can build a multi-million dollar hospital here in the middle of no where and create a new economic hub in your country with our fancy city package....

You heard of Mc'mansionS?

Well there is also Mc'Towns and Mc'Citys ... and unlike in USA where they just get build no problems, when they are built in other countries often it causes violence and unrest on a small scale. Generally the average local population over time (short, few years max) stabilizes to the system you bring, but it's the initial outlying folk that do shit like burn down houses and kill people in retaliation (all the locals and their own stuff, nothing of our development, it's brown on brown action.)

 
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: Earthdforce on March 26, 2012, 06:50:58 am
Why would you build where you're not wanted? .. unless it's just a small minority that's killing people...
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: engurrand on March 26, 2012, 06:52:53 am
it's like 3 or 4 dudes who were living on fake land titles sold to them by some criminal who falsified it while the land owner was away in another country for a few decades.

basically, we got some banditos and they need to die because they dont play nice.

The rest of the population will go very willingly, but if the banditos keep destroying shit it's going to put a negative stain on the community in relation to our development... which has unforeseen consequences. And as it escalates it just gets worse... next thing you know you got rivalry brewing and it just becomes stupid.
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: Earthdforce on March 26, 2012, 06:56:22 am
Then...ask them to leave nicely? Ya know, before resorting to such drastic measures as killing..
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: engurrand on March 26, 2012, 06:57:55 am
this is year 4 and we already asked them to leave nicely, won legal battle....
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on March 26, 2012, 07:10:52 am
Are there relocation measures in place for these people?
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: engurrand on March 26, 2012, 07:22:49 am
I'm trying to press for that and basically it's like this,

"ahhhh.. yeaaa... they are ass holes fuck them"
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: SixThumbs on March 26, 2012, 04:46:54 pm
Geez, leave the Palestinians alone already.
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: SixThumbs on March 26, 2012, 05:10:58 pm
No judgement can be passed without all the seemingly extraneous circumstances but if you've already asked a bunch of people and haven't got the answer you're looking for then you're fishing around for the one response to justify what sounds like an amoral action.
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on March 26, 2012, 07:15:35 pm
Develop a green city free of fossil fuels where pot is legal and which is covered in plants and water features, solar panels and windmills, grassy hills and rabbits.

Oh and put a mansion there for me while you're at it, I'll rent it for free and pay you back in 50 years.
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: Furax on March 26, 2012, 07:17:25 pm
Stop smoking crack.
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: Mr. Hannibal on March 26, 2012, 10:34:55 pm
Why not just get some evidence that they are the vandals,and call the police,then the police will punish them.If it repeats,they might have a order to not near the ''city'',and they should just leave you alone,besides,you should have a police department there,it's a city after all.

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Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: LordRichrich on March 27, 2012, 12:11:51 am
Erm, seeing as you're involved in this decision, why the **** can't you spell? :)
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: JihadistMexican on March 27, 2012, 12:42:36 am
why you asking interwebs.
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: Casimir on March 27, 2012, 01:53:15 am
Without contextualisation its rather hard to rationalize anything, as such your unlikely to find assistance, especially from an on-line forum dedicated to a mod for an indie medieval fighting game.
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: Earthdforce on March 27, 2012, 02:02:13 am
Without contextualisation its rather hard to rationalize anything, as such your unlikely to find assistance, especially from an on-line forum dedicated to a mod for an indie medieval fighting game.
Big words make you sound smart. I like you.
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: isatis on March 27, 2012, 02:32:48 am
i'm always a bit on my guard when it come to answering someone who post 100% not trolling on his topic name...
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: Radament on March 27, 2012, 02:57:55 am
He's Sam Childers you fools !!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poLXDr4HeS4)
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: Casimir on March 27, 2012, 03:28:22 am
Big words make you sound smart. I like you.

While writing my 4th essay in as many weeks, it's quite the challenge to speak like a normal person.
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: isatis on March 27, 2012, 04:35:12 am
While writing my 4th essay in as many weeks, it's quite the challenge to speak like a normal person.

tell me more about that, on which subject?

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Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: Corwin on March 27, 2012, 09:50:30 am
Stop smoking crack.

This.
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: B3RS3RK on March 27, 2012, 09:54:08 am
What kind of country would that be?Tibet?
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: Tanken on March 27, 2012, 10:07:22 am
I originally thought that you were talking about a Video Game or roleplaying very heavily in Strategus mode..


..but Then i realized you were just talking about finding Joseph Kony..
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on March 27, 2012, 10:16:35 am
this is year 4 and we already asked them to leave nicely, won legal battle....

Then let the legal system deal with it
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: Vibe on March 27, 2012, 10:21:18 am
Please leave?
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: ArysOakheart on March 27, 2012, 11:16:57 am
TL:DR Hi, I'm in Africa at the moment, and I do not quite understand why there are people here who don't think we should be here building shit. I mean we are courteous in our demands and we just cannot understand why anyone would oppose us. They do, and it's frustrating. I have apparently some say in things in a decently large company but resort to asking an obscure forum about these things because i'm too retarded to look it up elsewhere on the internet. I wish for you all to think that I have a position of power and your answers might assist my awesome position in rectifying this situation. Thank you all for being understanding.
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on March 27, 2012, 11:56:54 am
Herpa derpa derpy derp.... Herpa... herpa herp..... D.. Derrp? Derpy derpa derp?
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: Ujin on March 27, 2012, 12:33:14 pm
You're a vampire . Will the town be full of vampires too ?


p.s. i finished college
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: Casimir on March 27, 2012, 03:39:49 pm
tell me more about that, on which subject?

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Late medieval siege warfare, how and why it changed so rapidly following years of stagnation.

Liberalism in early modern europe and the success of the 1848 revolutions.

Discussion of the Augustan regimes social policy based on extracts from Cassius Dio and Vellius Parterculs.

Now writing an essay on Wether the commercial dominance of the dutch maritime republic was the sole cause of the dutch 'Golden Age'.
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: engurrand on March 27, 2012, 07:01:44 pm
you guys have no respect for brown people
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: Herra Hakkarainen on March 27, 2012, 07:04:45 pm
Just grab ya glock and AK's and start blastin' 'em bustas talkin' shit, ya feel me?
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: engurrand on March 27, 2012, 07:36:26 pm
"Just grab ya glock and AK's and start blastin' 'em bustas talkin' shit, ya feel me?"

That is basically what it's going to come down to.

I just have a hard time being okay with this... Not because people are going to die as much so as because there might be unforeseen consequences that lead to further violence (i.e wasted time). Even though these dudes are murders / vandals, if they get killed in violence it might resonate really bad with the locals and cause a chain reaction.

I just feel like there is a better way. The legal system here is corrupted only in ways of pay-off and such (i.e shit goes really slowly and hardly ever gets done unless someone gets paid off), and the "police".... what a laugh it's like one dude and his cousin... They are not going to go hunting in the thick jungle and risk their lives against a few armed thugs.

As time goes on the whole situation changes.

I need a hero.
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: Earthdforce on March 27, 2012, 07:50:03 pm
I need a hero.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbvLisKBkjY (super quiet)
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on March 27, 2012, 07:51:27 pm
Well it sounds like your legal system is non-existent if there have been laws passed to evict these people but it never happens.

Force rules the day when there is no such thing as a legal system or government that can bring justice for the civilians. 

If there is no legal system then power and force is what is going to be the only factor in who controls territory and resources.  Basically you either need a larger army (in numbers and resources) if you want to go head to head, or you need to resort to a guerilla campaign (like the french resistance of WWII, or the norway raiders in WWII).   Cut off their resources, make their transportation and communication become non-existent.  Put up IED's leading into and out of their main encampments.

You could go "in between" the two "force" routes I suggested and have special ops type missions in which you use surprise and overwhelming fire suppression to attack a critical object, but don't get into a full blown fire fight.

I'd recommend giving this book a read before you try any special ops or guerrila operations (it's really just a good read in general):

http://www.amazon.com/SOG-Secret-Americas-Commandos-Vietnam/dp/0451195086
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: Corwin on March 27, 2012, 07:52:19 pm

I need a hero.

There you go: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php?action=profile;u=302
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: engurrand on March 27, 2012, 08:02:54 pm
Well it sounds like your legal system is non-existent if there have been laws passed to evict these people but it never happens.

Force rules the day when there is no such thing as a legal system or government that can bring justice for the civilians. 

If there is no legal system then power and force is what is going to be the only factor in who controls territory and resources.  Basically you either need a larger army (in numbers and resources) if you want to go head to head, or you need to resort to a guerilla campaign (like the french resistance of WWII, or the norway raiders in WWII).   Cut off their resources, make their transportation and communication become non-existent.  Put up IED's leading into and out of their main encampments.

You could go "in between" the two "force" routes I suggested and have special ops type missions in which you use surprise and overwhelming fire suppression to attack a critical object, but don't get into a full blown fire fight.

I'd recommend giving this book a read before you try any special ops or guerrila operations (it's really just a good read in general):

http://www.amazon.com/SOG-Secret-Americas-Commandos-Vietnam/dp/0451195086

Yea well it's only 3 people so far that have been known to have committed these violent acts, but initially it was just one dude (see where this is going?)... They are lightly armed and there is little to no vehicle transportation available... Mostly foot, horse and small motorized bikes on trails. The terrain is thick undeveloped mountainous jungle. We had talked with the military about helping us secure these people but funnily enough the country which we are operating in is against this, while neighboring country was actually willing to listen...

And for the record the land is owned by a citizen of the area and he has done "village building" (the private citizens version of nation building) in the region before, in decades past.. We have planned hospital, school, and all that "good stuff" that leads to privileged middle class children fapping all night to their PC screens while Rick Santaroum face palms at the fate of brown children to come.
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: [ptx] on March 27, 2012, 08:05:02 pm
Well it sounds like your legal system is non-existent if there have been laws passed to evict these people but it never happens.

Force rules the day when there is no such thing as a legal system or government that can bring justice for the civilians. 

If there is no legal system then power and force is what is going to be the only factor in who controls territory and resources.  Basically you either need a larger army (in numbers and resources) if you want to go head to head, or you need to resort to a guerilla campaign (like the french resistance of WWII, or the norway raiders in WWII).   Cut off their resources, make their transportation and communication become non-existent.  Put up IED's leading into and out of their main encampments.

You could go "in between" the two "force" routes I suggested and have special ops type missions in which you use surprise and overwhelming fire suppression to attack a critical object, but don't get into a full blown fire fight.

I'd recommend giving this book a read before you try any special ops or guerrila operations (it's really just a good read in general):

http://www.amazon.com/SOG-Secret-Americas-Commandos-Vietnam/dp/0451195086

Yeah, man, but that's a lot of work. This one time i just napalmed the whole place and shit was cash, yo.
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: engurrand on March 27, 2012, 08:07:52 pm
I'm seriously needing cheap private security for a 2 month contract...
I don't trust brown people and Private security firms in Europe and USA are arrogant ass holes who charge too much...

no.....

I need a hero...

it's not Africa.

I need a hero.
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on March 27, 2012, 08:56:46 pm
Yea well it's only 3 people so far that have been known to have committed these violent acts, but initially it was just one dude (see where this is going?)... They are lightly armed and there is little to no vehicle transportation available... Mostly foot, horse and small motorized bikes on trails. The terrain is thick undeveloped mountainous jungle. We had talked with the military about helping us secure these people but funnily enough the country which we are operating in is against this, while neighboring country was actually willing to listen...

And for the record the land is owned by a citizen of the area and he has done "village building" (the private citizens version of nation building) in the region before, in decades past.. We have planned hospital, school, and all that "good stuff" that leads to privileged middle class children fapping all night to their PC screens while Rick Santaroum face palms at the fate of brown children to come.

So move to another area and set up shop there.  There's a lot of undeveloped land in the world.
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: Radament on March 27, 2012, 09:09:06 pm
so what do you need ? a sort of rambo mixed up with charles bronson? and most important : where is this so dangerous place? what's the point in writing here searching fo Rambo? ask someone real , we are not real , we are trolls and trolls aren't real.
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: Corwin on March 27, 2012, 09:36:26 pm
I'm seriously needing cheap private security for a 2 month contract...
I don't trust brown people and Private security firms in Europe and USA are arrogant ass holes who charge too much...

no.....

I need a hero...

it's not Africa.

I need a hero.

I seriously can't believe that you expect people will seriously believe all sorts of bullshit just because you wrote "seriously".

Seriously.

And if this country is in Africa, please tell Prince Heir of Kenya that I am still waiting for my money.

And I am not trolling. 100% not trolling. Believe me. Seriously.
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: SixThumbs on March 27, 2012, 09:45:19 pm
1000% you need to rip their ribcages out and stab them through their backs to look like wings on top of whatever other depraved things you can think of and put them somewhere where the rest of the locals would easily be able to find them to let them know what they're dealing with.

Also, fuck you.
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: Logen on March 27, 2012, 09:45:40 pm
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Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: engurrand on March 27, 2012, 10:07:55 pm
100% not trolling

seriously.
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: engurrand on March 27, 2012, 10:09:04 pm
i just thought cuz u guys were good at CRPG you might be good irl?

100%
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on March 27, 2012, 10:30:44 pm
Either you are 100% dumb or 100% trolling, im guessing both
Title: Re: 100% not trolling, 100% need advice
Post by: Vibe on March 27, 2012, 11:44:07 pm
YAWN, boring troll is boring.

100% gtfo.