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Title: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Troyicide on March 22, 2012, 02:25:39 am
Forgive and thy shall be forgiven Luke 6:37

        O how I hath sinned, O how it pains thy soul. In thy times of playing thee game we call Crpg, I sought to win at all costs, with only mine self-hearted interests in mind. Thy result of such actions hath bought only ruin to mine once clean name. Henceforth I shalt contribute thee self to a life of thee just, and honorable. Now onward to explain thyself for such actions I canst not, but to explain why such acts defile thy game playing experience for thy common Crpg citizenry I canst, I shall and I will…

            Thy destruction of someone’s hard work in our beloved mod within a mod is deplorable, and reprehensible. All thine hard work of thee peoples should pay off for thither actions done in making a more prosperous Strategus faction; what have ye. I for one can testament to thee fact, that production for a fun Strategus may take many a moon to complete. With thy efforts of such work all hanging on one Strategus battle it is not fair for thy people of Crpg to deal of such a disease as thy disease of sabotaging one’s own team. Sabotaging can include acts of giving oneself to thy enemy team, assisting enemies with conveniently placed ladders, or thy purpose loss of good weaponry that could hath been used for thy common defense of one own fief. All acts said forth are dishonorable and ruin thy fun to be had in a Strategus battle. Thy act of sabotage some would say only hurts one self’s team, I would like to argue that it hurts everyone. When sabotage occurs during thy midst of an important castle siege in Strategus thou not only affect thy current battle but arguably thy whole Strategus’ interworking itself. With people’s confidence shaken in the fairness of Strategus the average folk wilt turn back from game. With such acts occurring regularly one could foreshadow thy downfall of a fair Strategus. For if naught hath been learned from above words take this to memory, if thou thinks he can cheat thee good peoples of Crpg out of a fair and honest Strategus battle thy self is foolish to believe otherwise. This is thy reason for mine ban, this is thy way to combat all who shalt seek to defile thee good game Crpg and thee inter mod Strategus. I have accepted mine crimes as wrong, and I have no excuses to give. I only beseech that my fellow Crpg Players give a fellow player a chance to right the wrongdoings, and change from evil ways to ones of goodness. I also ask for thy chance to be heard without prejudged notions, and thy setting aside of old vengeances from past evil endeavors, in favor of new formed long term friendships. I have been lucky for chairman meow hath blessed thy self with another chance to repent my evil ways and set thine self on a path to salvation and holy righteousness.

                Now to address past transgression made against thy law set forth in thee honest land of Calradia. Many a mistake I have made during my journeys across thee lands. Some blight’s against my name were given from unjust admins, with punishments unbefitting of thy crimes. These punishments were taken on thee shin without an advocate to stop such atrocities. Also to thy notice of many brethren players being let off thine hook for much more serious offenses fueled my angst. When I felt wronged from such actions and without a way for an honest justice I sought to carry out some on mine own. Still no explanation for thy offenses I hath caused, but only for something to consider. Henceforth I see that two wrongs do not make a right in any a matter. The seeking of an unjust justice is no justice at all, mine eyes art open to thy error of mine old ways. I further seek to right thy past transgression made against mine name by abstaining from such acts ever again. Some never learn from mistakes made, I shall. Some never acknowledge mistakes made, I have. Some never want to give thy chance at redemption, some did, and I appreciate.

                   I put thought to paper, now I ask thee to put thy votes to positive! Let the voices of all Crpg players ring out and say ‘FREE TROYICIDE’, let cries of freedom reign supreme thought out the farthest reaches of Calradia. Make the cries so loud that even our lord chadz can hear thy cries.(764)

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Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Valdian on March 22, 2012, 03:17:59 am
Free Troy he has learned his ways
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Vralek on March 22, 2012, 03:25:56 am
very well written :) i forgive thee! :)

The Chuckster hath spokeneth!! c(^^)
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Warne! on March 22, 2012, 03:26:00 am
Hath thou fellow Hospitaller given up this tomfoolery? I hath reason to believe so.

FREE TROYICIDE! THE SINNER HATH REPENTED!
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: ModdedMatt on March 22, 2012, 03:34:58 am
Troycide is a very nice guy and should really be unbanned due to him being a really good community member!
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Devestater on March 22, 2012, 03:38:08 am
This is a good essay. I have talked to Troycide myself and he sincerely feels terrible for what he has done. Not only for his own reputation, but for Hospitaller as well. I can assure you that if he is unbanned that nothing like this will happen again.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Kreczor on March 22, 2012, 03:45:51 am
This is a good essay. I have talked to Troycide myself and he sincerely feels terrible for what he has done. Not only for his own reputation, but for Hospitaller as well. I can assure you that if he is unbanned that nothing like this will happen again.
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Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Blackzilla on March 22, 2012, 03:45:58 am
Free Troy he has learned his ways
He has been banned 5 times.
This is a good essay. I have talked to Troycide myself and he sincerely feels terrible for what he has done. Not only for his own reputation, but for Hospitaller as well. I can assure you that if he is unbanned that nothing like this will happen again.
He has been banned 5 times.
Troycide is a very nice guy and should really be unbanned due to him being a really good community member!
He has been banned 5 times.

I dont respect anyone who hurts their team on purpose/leeches. Especially a strat castle defense. I voted 1. Keep him banned for at least 1 more week.

Good essay though.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Rhaelys on March 22, 2012, 03:48:01 am
Great essay, but the ban should remain for a bit.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: RibaldRon on March 22, 2012, 03:50:18 am
I was spectating when he was taking part in that battle, not only was he taking a slot away from somebody who could have contributed, he was disconnecting/reconnecting to hide his negative score.  That tells me that AT THE TIME he knew that what he was doing was wrong.

Great essay, but I don't think that it should give somebody an immediate unban for such a willful disregard for the rules.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Malaclypse on March 22, 2012, 03:50:31 am
It's plain to see that you put a good amount of effort into the construction of this unban essay, Troyicide, however I feel that you should be banned for a longer period of time than the few days you have been so far. There is no reason for you to have conducted yourself as you did in that Strategus battle, and while I feel you should be given a second chance- eventually- I'd be pretty upset if it was before May 1st, personally, and you probably deserve much longer based on your history of bans. Dicking around in a Strategus battle like that should not be taken lightly.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Shadowren on March 22, 2012, 03:57:41 am
You all do understand that even after the essay is done he will be banned for awhile right? Its not as simple as write an essay and get out of jail free.

You put some hard work into your essay, its one of the best i have see so far. [5]
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Tyrell on March 22, 2012, 03:59:49 am
Quote from: Huey Newton
No
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Blackzilla on March 22, 2012, 04:00:17 am
Quote from:  Huey Newton
No

Quote from:  Huey Newton
No
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: MrShovelFace on March 22, 2012, 04:03:04 am
Quote from:  Both God and Jesus
No
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: BlindGuy on March 22, 2012, 04:05:51 am
You put some hard work into your essay, its one of the best i have see so far. [5]

Erm, I voted 5, cause stupidity is genetic and therefor not his fault, but his essay was fucking shockingly bad...
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Snoozer on March 22, 2012, 05:16:43 am
i voted 5 and im posting my reasons why(ill keep it short)

okay from what i heard what he has done global ban was justified .

all i ask that it is not perm and is not excessively long

he does not usually act this way he actually takes strat very seriously and is in control of many fiefs because of it
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Lemmy_Winks on March 22, 2012, 05:47:26 am
FREE TROY, DO IT IN THE NAME OF FREEDOM!


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Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Digglez on March 22, 2012, 06:03:43 am
Gave him a well deserved 1.  Essay is pathetic and joke, very clear he doesnt care and isnt taking this serious.

Its also very clear he has no respect for the game or the rules by which other reasonable people play.  Hes been globally banned TWICE already, get rid of him once and for all. 
If he was serious he could have sold/given away all his gear to people he's wronged, but instead he just wrote some crappy joke essay.

The facts are the facts, this is now strike 6 against him, its very clear HE IS NOT LEARNING THE LESSON.

PERMABAN
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: _451_ATS on March 22, 2012, 06:21:18 am
1

He gets cute with his essay instead of taking it seriously.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Chestaclese on March 22, 2012, 06:53:54 am
Fuck this guy.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Darkkarma on March 22, 2012, 07:06:03 am
I think there needs to be a distinguishable line between "getting cute" and "being creative" I saw one guy turn his whole unban essay into a long ass poem. Goatee's ban on leeching was just as ridiculous as this. Yet he is now unbanned according to ganner's post. As for troy, I can't really comment on your past bans, but generally speaking, saying your previous four bans were all due to bad or unfair admins usually doesn't help your case, ESPECIALLY when one of those bans was for autoblocking. As far as the topic itself goes, I find it sufficient and would be alright with him getting another(a final in your case I suppose) chance once the banning admin he felt an adequate amount of time has passed.

3 rating btw.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Huey Newton on March 22, 2012, 07:25:30 am
-17?

fucking got em
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: oprah_winfrey on March 22, 2012, 08:28:15 am
I voted 1, essay wasn't very good. If he hadn't been banned for autoblocking in the past my vote may have been different. That being said, I don't think he should be permbanned, just a few weeks or so

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If he was serious he could have sold/given away all his gear to people he's wronged, but instead he just wrote some crappy joke essay.

This on the other hand is just the retarded thing i have come to expect digglez to say.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Ganner on March 22, 2012, 09:05:16 am
-1/10
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Meow on March 22, 2012, 11:17:51 am
Ok, since I got asked multiple times already, this is the ban request:

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,28277.0.html

This the unban request:

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,28352.0.html
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Vibe on March 22, 2012, 12:07:41 pm
Calling unjust admins and unfair punishments as a reason for your wrongdoings is recipe for essay fail.

-1

Some never learn from mistakes made
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Valdian on March 22, 2012, 04:41:01 pm
I completly agree what troy did was wrong hes being punished within the clan as well for making Hospitaller look bad but instead of permaninant ban maybe a 1 month ban . Hes kicking himself everyday for his decision on what he did.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Aztek on March 22, 2012, 04:45:44 pm
The only honest votes are the 2's, 3's and 4's. Most hospitaller are going to vote 5, Most chaos and friends are going to vote 1.

I think its silly your leaving this up to a popularity vote as 95% of the votes will be biased.

What he did was wrong and he needs to be punished, there is no one stating otherwise including Troy him self. Why don't the mature and level headed admins just have a meeting and figure something out.. I feel like were on American idol here!
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Meow on March 22, 2012, 04:52:49 pm
Nowhere does it say that he will stay permanently banned if the vote goes bad, there just won't be any decision before the seven days are over into neither direction.

No worries, this is not a democracy :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Aztek on March 22, 2012, 04:57:08 pm
It just seems most expect a 5 to equate to letting him back right away, and 1 being a permaban, which Isn't the case.

What he did was wrong, he will be banned for a period of time (Hopefully not permanently) but I think there needs to be some clarification on the actual purpose of this essay, are people rating an essay, or voting on the outcome of troy's fate in CRPG/Strat?
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: BlindGuy on March 22, 2012, 05:03:53 pm
No the vote is their opinion of his essay.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Darkkarma on March 22, 2012, 05:49:28 pm
It just seems most expect a 5 to equate to letting him back right away, and 1 being a permaban, which Isn't the case.

What he did was wrong, he will be banned for a period of time (Hopefully not permanently) but I think there needs to be some clarification on the actual purpose of this essay, are people rating an essay, or voting on the outcome of troy's fate in CRPG/Strat?

People are voting on their opinion of the essay in general ad whether or not they personally believe it's deserving of an unban. Those are opinions, however and it is ultimately up the individual who issued the essay topic/ban. Whether or not the sheer amount of no votes he's gotten in this case equates to anything that would effect how long the ban stays in place remains to be seen.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: dynamike on March 22, 2012, 05:53:43 pm
Hey there is this guy who has been arrested 5 times already. Twice has he been in jail and the last time he got caught his offense was so severe the judges gave him a life's sentence.

But look, he wrote this really nice letter, why don't we just set him free again after a few days?

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Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Kreczor on March 22, 2012, 06:01:19 pm
Hey there is this guy who has been arrested 5 times already. Twice has he been in jail and the last time he got caught his offense was so severe the judges gave him a life's sentence.

But look, he wrote this really nice letter, why don't we just set him free again after a few days?

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p much why I put a 1. I like hosperglers (yall know that) but he puts a bad face on this community. If it means losing troyicde to so we can have a better gaming community, I'm perfectly fine with that. In my experience, he never seemed to benefit us in the first place.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Nightingale on March 22, 2012, 08:18:43 pm
I voted 2, Based on the video.

Seems to me he was wasting tickets, equipment, leeching xp given by strat.

If someone did this in a Hospitaller Siege battle, I do not think you would be all - oh he learned his lesson.

I do not even believe he took the essay seriously, And I don't much appreciate being messaged out of the blue, asking me to vote 5 without giving me any details hoping for bias votes and such.

The fact that he has been ban'd how many times before this as well? seems like if this were me id expect at least a 30 day ban IF I was the one being ban'd for the 4th or 5th time.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Slamz on March 22, 2012, 08:24:11 pm
It just seems most expect a 5 to equate to letting him back right away, and 1 being a permaban, which Isn't the case.

I gave a 2 because:

1) He put in some effort but it reads like a joke essay rather than anything serious.
2) He blames his past bans on unfair treatment and basically plays it off like he's the victim.

I'm sure he's sorry for being caught.  I'm less sure about anything else.


Also, bear in mind that this latest ban was for sabotaging a NEUTRAL fief.  Nobody owned it.  So it's not like he even has the revenge excuse here.  He wasn't hurting any particular clan, he was just trolling the game in general.

It's not real clear to me why we're even here having this discussion.  He's a troll.  The time for "grow the fuck up or get the fuck out" should have been during one of his previous 5 bans.

Considering 99% of the community has no bans at all, I don't see why we let some people have an endless cycle of trolling and apologizing.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Penitent on March 22, 2012, 08:47:25 pm
I'll tell you Troy...I was REALLY looking forward to reading your essay and voting a 1 on it...

Yet thou hast written graciously, and I do now award you a 4.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
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Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Graf_Hodenschaf on March 22, 2012, 09:13:26 pm
 :oops: sry but i have to wish tears away, i have NEVER ever read a better essay than this one. 5 off course !!!!

Thx Troy, i thought i couldnt cry no more...
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Aztek on March 22, 2012, 09:26:22 pm
I voted 2, Based on the video.

Seems to me he was wasting tickets, equipment, leeching xp given by strat.

If someone did this in a Hospitaller Siege battle, I do not think you would be all - oh he learned his lesson.

I do not even believe he took the essay seriously, And I don't much appreciate being messaged out of the blue, asking me to vote 5 without giving me any details hoping for bias votes and such.

The fact that he has been ban'd how many times before this as well? seems like if this were me id expect at least a 30 day ban IF I was the one being ban'd for the 4th or 5th time.


No one is stating that, No one.

We "all" think it was idiotic and he should be punished. Were just standing behind troy against a permaban which we find to be excessive if that's the outcome. Personally I do think troy used to be a troll (Sorry troy) and this incident doesn't help his case, But over the last couple months Troy has really stepped up and has became a more mature player, and was behind a lot of strat battles/strategies and was responsible to manage fiefs and was working well with others.. again this incident was a relapse of his old retarded ways, But I really do believe he is better than this, and will learn this time.. before he was just another member that followed along and did not need to worry much about anything along with bans, Now he has responsibly with in the clan and we hold him in higher regard and I know he will do better in the future if you give him the chance.

He was also creative with his essay, Not a vanilla copy and paste, he put a few hours into that.. So that's why I gave him a 5.. Not for his actions, But for his essay.

I know my word doesn't mean much to you guys, so take it as you will.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Anhy on March 22, 2012, 09:56:04 pm
5 Блеать!!! Только 5!!!!!
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Nightingale on March 22, 2012, 10:13:03 pm
No one is stating that, No one.

We "all" think it was idiotic and he should be punished. Were just standing behind troy against a permaban which we find to be excessive if that's the outcome. Personally I do think troy used to be a troll (Sorry troy) and this incident doesn't help his case, But over the last couple months Troy has really stepped up and has became a more mature player, and was behind a lot of strat battles/strategies and was responsible to manage fiefs and was working well with others.. again this incident was a relapse of his old retarded ways, But I really do believe he is better than this, and will learn this time.. before he was just another member that followed along and did not need to worry much about anything along with bans, Now he has responsibly with in the clan and we hold him in higher regard and I know he will do better in the future if you give him the chance.

He was also creative with his essay, Not a vanilla copy and paste, he put a few hours into that.. So that's why I gave him a 5.. Not for his actions, But for his essay.

I know my word doesn't mean much to you guys, so take it as you will.

I don't believe he should be perma ban either, I believe he should be Punished based on the equipment and tickets he wasted. Meow already said this isn't a democracy the final choice isn't held in this Poll, it might help him or hurt him based on what happens here, but wont sell his ticket either. I disagree with perma ban I also believe he shouldn't get off free either, Perhaps they could subtract the gear cost he wasted from his account as punishment and 15 hours for each ticket wasted. it might be harsh but it isn't taking his looms, or Perma banning him either.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Rumblood on March 22, 2012, 10:30:54 pm
I still think of c-rpg and strategus as two seperate things. I don't play Strategus myself, not belonging to a clan nor wanting to join one and I haven't heard that is supports Mercs.

I think a week or two ban in c-rpg would relay the proper message. I don't think the Strategus asshattery should automatically and necessarily bleed over into c-rpg battle/siege modes though. Isn't Strategus supposed to be about politics, reputation, smack talking, devious underhanded backstabbing and such? Like I said, I'm not playing it, so I could have the wrong impression. But to expound:

Strategus - Hmm. Sounds bad, but if I recall, don't you have to hire someone to be in a battle? Well, why did you hire him? I bet you don't do that again. His reputation is trashed, and so even if not banned he could never participate in another battle if nobody ever hires him. Is that right? And if he did it to his clan, his clan can handle that by booting his ass and then for sure he would never get hired. So...the mechanics for dealing with asshattery is already in place if that is the case.
Should we have some administrative ban as well? I would say yes simply to discourage that type of blatant action. But with game mechanics and reputation that could essentially perma-ban someone from participating in Strategus, I don't necessarily believe that an actual Admin ban should be implemented without cheating of some type happening. Reputation should handle screwing someone over. Maybe you guys need a list of people not to hire to fight in Strategus battles.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: _451_ATS on March 22, 2012, 10:40:35 pm
We all know his actions and how idiotic they were.

The question is does his essay both stay to the topic and show his remorse.

On topic: 5
Remorse: -4


Essays like this, the poetry, or any other whimsical writings seems to make a mockery of this punishment. It shouldn't have to be said but this isn't an instance for an individual to flex their creative muscles or to have a good time doing it.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Penitent on March 22, 2012, 10:54:13 pm
We all know his actions and how idiotic they were.

The question is does his essay both stay to the topic and show his remorse.

On topic: 5
Remorse: -4


Essays like this, the poetry, or any other whimsical writings seems to make a mockery of this punishment. It shouldn't have to be said but this isn't an instance for an individual to flex their creative muscles or to have a good time doing it.

I disagree with you wholeheartedly.  Essays of any kind are absolutely the time to express yourself creatively.  What is the point of a meaningful essay that is so dry and boring that it is a punishment to even read for its audience?  These are not political science essays, but essay regarding a game.  It is completely appropriate to have fun with them, as long as the meaning comes through.  Not only is this a game, but its a medieval game.  His use of middle-English phrasings is even more appropriate.  In fact, its his chosen style of writing that caused me to give him a higher score.

The point of the essay is to force the writer to think about their actions and their ramifications.  Whether they have a good time doing that or not is irrelevant.  Helping the reader have a good time reading it shows forethought and consideration.  Good writing and a creative streak can help make any situation more enjoyable, and I applaud it. 

Signed,
Garison
BA - English Writing 2005
Writing center tutor 2003-2005
Modestly published poet
Renaissance Man
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Darkkarma on March 22, 2012, 10:55:27 pm
I still think of c-rpg and strategus as two seperate things. I don't play Strategus myself, not belonging to a clan nor wanting to join one and I haven't heard that is supports Mercs.

I think a week or two ban in c-rpg would relay the proper message. I don't think the Strategus asshattery should automatically and necessarily bleed over into c-rpg battle/siege modes though. Isn't Strategus supposed to be about politics, reputation, smack talking, devious underhanded backstabbing and such? Like I said, I'm not playing it, so I could have the wrong impression. But to expound:

Strategus - Hmm. Sounds bad, but if I recall, don't you have to hire someone to be in a battle? Well, why did you hire him? I bet you don't do that again. His reputation is trashed, and so even if not banned he could never participate in another battle if nobody ever hires him. Is that right? And if he did it to his clan, his clan can handle that by booting his ass and then for sure he would never get hired. So...the mechanics for dealing with asshattery is already in place if that is the case.
Should we have some administrative ban as well? I would say yes simply to discourage that type of blatant action. But with game mechanics and reputation that could essentially perma-ban someone from participating in Strategus, I don't necessarily believe that an actual Admin ban should be implemented without cheating of some type happening. Reputation should handle screwing someone over. Maybe you guys need a list of people not to hire to fight in Strategus battles.

In general, when a player hires a person as a mercenary, he or she reserves the right to add whomever they see fit. However, when it is a neutral, AI controlled castle, (like the one in this instance), the AI hires pretty indiscriminately so long as the person is of a decent level and has good attendance and doesn't no show alot  in battles. As far as strat goes, people put alot of planning into this little mini game. Speaking from personal experience, strat can be like a full time job for some leaders. It's hard enough managing strat as it is without worrying about mercs coming in and deliberately sabotaging defenses. As far a neutral defenses go, they don't happen very often this late in an instance of strat, it kind of sucks that a guy would go out of his way to deliberately try and help ensure his friends victory on the other side while succeeding to take away from the fun of those on his team in the process. This in itself wouldn't be grounds for a super long ban, but when a guy has been banned on multiple occasions before hand(including one time for auto blocking), can you really blame people for questioning that individual's character and being reluctant to let said individual back into their community?

Food for thought.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Anwyl on March 22, 2012, 11:22:47 pm
Essay was patronizing and self-victimizing.

1/5

Also, 5 bans and this guy is still potentially getting another chance? Listen EU guys.
Rehabilitation might work in your "in-and-out in a few months" prison system. But in 'Merica we lock repeat offenders up.

Because let's be honest. If he did it once, if he did it twice, if he did it five times. He's going to do it again.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Zaren on March 22, 2012, 11:37:24 pm
We all know his actions and how idiotic they were.

The question is does his essay both stay to the topic and show his remorse.

On topic: 5
Remorse: -4


Essays like this, the poetry, or any other whimsical writings seems to make a mockery of this punishment. It shouldn't have to be said but this isn't an instance for an individual to flex their creative muscles or to have a good time doing it.
I totally disagree with you there. Unban essays should show effort! Even If you dont think he should be unbanned, the fact is he should put creativity into it. Creativity earns extra points!
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: LastKaze on March 22, 2012, 11:46:53 pm
‘FREE TROYICIDE’
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Blade on March 23, 2012, 12:41:23 am
Hell unban him allready!  :D
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: _451_ATS on March 23, 2012, 01:34:21 am
I disagree with you wholeheartedly.  Essays of any kind are absolutely the time to express yourself creatively.  What is the point of a meaningful essay that is so dry and boring that it is a punishment to even read for its audience?  These are not political science essays, but essay regarding a game.  It is completely appropriate to have fun with them, as long as the meaning comes through.  Not only is this a game, but its a medieval game.  His use of middle-English phrasings is even more appropriate.  In fact, its his chosen style of writing that caused me to give him a higher score.

The point of the essay is to force the writer to think about their actions and their ramifications.  Whether they have a good time doing that or not is irrelevant.  Helping the reader have a good time reading it shows forethought and consideration.  Good writing and a creative streak can help make any situation more enjoyable, and I applaud it. 

Signed,
Garison
BA - English Writing 2005
Writing center tutor 2003-2005
Modestly published poet
Renaissance Man

I totally disagree with you there. Unban essays should show effort! Even If you dont think he should be unbanned, the fact is he should put creativity into it. Creativity earns extra points!

Both of you missed the point. Tiger I agree with you on that it should show effort, but this is an instance where he put more effort into making it amusing than understanding why his behavior is disruptive and unacceptable. This should not become the norm for others.

Garison: Solemn work can have a creativity of it's own. This isn't about making a judgement on whether or not the work is amusing but that he clearly illustrates the points he has been asked to make, and just as you said, think about his actions and ramifications. However, essays like this getting passed through is setting a precedent that it's acceptable to post something that is insincere and self-victimizing so long as it's amusing or entertaining in some fashion.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Blackzilla on March 23, 2012, 01:39:16 am
oh he learned his lesson.

No one is stating that, No one.

Free Troy he has learned his ways
he says troy has learned his way. Therefore some is stating that.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: BlindGuy on March 23, 2012, 10:03:24 am
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Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Dexxtaa on March 23, 2012, 03:01:09 pm
So...

I may be missing something here, but why is someone who's had a long history of bans gets yet another chance to go free ?

Also, I'd like to know why the majority of people who support the author are from his own clan. I see the occasional person piping up for Troy, which is cool and all, but I fail to see why your "bros" should have the power to sway an admin decision and an outright call for a permaban (by both biased and unbiased parties alike).

I see a lot of different people from a lot of different factions (and those without factions) calling for the Hammer.

The author is clearly a detriment to this small community based on his track record alone (even before considering this instance of his ban). A record of previous bans and all around being a moron on the servers? Stratia has had her members change their names/ buy new keys for much less than this.

Speaking as someone who cares greatly for this community (I know right), I feel that an affliction like this should not be left to return in its current form.

A permanent ban would force the author to reconsider his future actions and losing his heirlooms will be a harsh, but required cost of his actions. This would also send a message out to everyone with malevolent intent that acting on their malicious thoughts will do them no good.

If not for the loss of heirlooms, then the required purchase of a new CD-Key will be a financial impact on the person in question (but that's not as detrimental to some as opposed to others irl).

Granpappy, while I respect your opinion, I disagree completely with your perspective. I can go into a whole essay about how what you said is incorrect. But suffice to say that it's not as easy as you put it, and given your lack of experience with the Strat interface, I don't think your points will hold strong in a lengthy discussion.

Because the community is important to me; permaban

2 for the essay,
Base 1 because it is patronizing, and self victimizing which is hardly something you do with such a track record.
+1 for creativity.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: ICEArmy on March 24, 2012, 09:16:27 pm
Torycide's great words have shown me an unparallelled forgiveness
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Smoothrich on March 24, 2012, 09:24:55 pm
guy seems like a dick, wouldn't really care too much about griefing a strat battle but lol @ being globally banned in the past for auto blocking then still doing this

i would think an auto blocking ban puts your account on real thin ice in the first place and he was hilariously frapsed being a douche, tough luck.  his essay is funny i guess but blaming admins for his bans is stupid

either permaban him or unban him in a month but change all his heirlooms into +3 shashkas and permanently change his name to HOSPITALLER_AUTOBLOCKER_GRIEFER_PUBTRASH so he can never escape the shame
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: BADPLAYERold on March 24, 2012, 11:56:12 pm
guy seems like a dick, wouldn't really care too much about griefing a strat battle but lol @ being globally banned in the past for auto blocking then still doing this

i would think an auto blocking ban puts your account on real thin ice in the first place and he was hilariously frapsed being a douche, tough luck.  his essay is funny i guess but blaming admins for his bans is stupid

either permaban him or unban him in a month but change all his heirlooms into +3 shashkas and permanently change his name to HOSPITALLER_AUTOBLOCKER_GRIEFER_PUBTRASH so he can never escape the shame

being an autoblocker yourself i would of thought you wouldn't of been as harsh smooth.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Smoothrich on March 25, 2012, 12:03:50 am
being an autoblocker yourself i would of thought you wouldn't of been as harsh smooth.

why hello, what in the wrold are you talking about
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: BADPLAYERold on March 25, 2012, 12:05:07 am
why hello, what in the wrold are you talking about

u being banned for autoblocking
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Smoothrich on March 25, 2012, 12:18:55 am
u being banned for autoblocking

pretty sure i was declared innocent by cmp after his investigation concluded that my warband ID number was The One and plugging it in managed to fix several bugs that were reoccurring in strategus and other crpg elements, including the auto block detector

now if only they could catch that hellowrold hacker

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYbqq5XIotc

i'm sure whatever he's doing now he's being a bad player about it
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: BADPLAYERold on March 25, 2012, 12:21:52 am
probably still doing mass pwnage.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Jester on March 25, 2012, 01:47:46 am
the fact he is even going to be unbanned is rediculous.. who cares if he trolls, who cares if he leaches, that only deserves a day ban at most.  he at one point used AUTOBLOCK, and its just insanity that admins unban people after CHEATING... keep his ass banned. and all the people asking for him to be unbanned are his clan butt buddies.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Kreczor on March 25, 2012, 03:03:51 am
why hello, what in the wrold are you talking about
god i love the way you post. never stop :)
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Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Dexxtaa on March 25, 2012, 03:57:56 am
god i love the way you post. never stop :)
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Please keep the discussion on track please. Make sure your posts pertain directly to the topic at hand, and try not to stray too far.


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Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Kreczor on March 25, 2012, 04:03:17 am
Please keep the discussion on track please. Make sure your posts pertain directly to the topic at hand, and try not to stray too far.


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Stop making me look bad. I still support the ban of troyicide or however you spell his name.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Porkthegreat on March 25, 2012, 11:18:48 pm
Troy's heart knows no evil, FREE TROYICIDE!!!
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Ufthak on March 27, 2012, 01:37:34 pm
If Troyicide is unbanned, all it shows is taking a neutral fief/castle is as simple as having a few guys willing to take a few weeks break.

Uumdi and I aren't actively playing right now, should CHAOS attack Reyvadin so we can make use of our break and go on a TK rampage as Reyvadin defenders? It's only fair, right? Honestly, anyone banned for autoblocking that gets banned again for ANYTHING should be gone. Unbanning Troyicide would pretty much show that you can get away with anything as many times as you want.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Kreczor on March 27, 2012, 03:05:03 pm
If Troyicide is unbanned, all it shows is taking a neutral fief/castle is as simple as having a few guys willing to take a few weeks break.

Uumdi and I aren't actively playing right now, should CHAOS attack Reyvadin so we can make use of our break and go on a TK rampage as Reyvadin defenders? It's only fair, right? Honestly, anyone banned for autoblocking that gets banned again for ANYTHING should be gone. Unbanning Troyicide would pretty much show that you can get away with anything as many times as you want.
Not only that, but I can't seem to remember at any point Troyicide being a helpful member of this community. He doesn't exactly have the greatest track record.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Lordark on March 29, 2012, 11:10:47 pm
The level of Trollz and Qq's on this post is unbearable! In the name of Great Justice I demeand Troycide be given a Mistrial and freed at once!
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Malaclypse on March 29, 2012, 11:14:10 pm
Any QQ in the thread against the unbanning of Troyicide is warranted due to the fact that: he has been banned multiple times for infractions up to and including autoblocking, and his most recent, pointless infraction with no justification whatsoever was caught on video, undeniably showing his IDGAF attitude. If he's unbanned given his history, I'd be surprised.

He should be allowed to start over on a new account if he pays for a new cd-key, that's about it.
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Smoothrich on March 29, 2012, 11:17:31 pm
For laughs I was looking through Troyicide's post history and one of his most recent posts before his ban was this:  thread's locked so I can't legit quote, its from an unban ricky thread

Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
« Reply #79 on: March 12, 2012, 21:46:32 »     
typical all his clan mates say unban, most of the rest say ban. What is a perm ban mean now a days lol, plus I've seen this dude on another key before.

hahhahahahahahah

Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Tyrell on March 29, 2012, 11:23:02 pm
For laughs I was looking through Troyicide's post history and one of his most recent posts before his ban was this:  thread's locked so I can't legit quote, its from an unban ricky thread

hahhahahahahahah
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdKr1jlDzW4
Title: Re: Unban Essay: Troyicide
Post by: Miwiw on March 29, 2012, 11:27:01 pm
I'm not sure if I can find any reason for an unban in his "essay". I would also never unban someone for screwing around like that... Not even sure why that is even in question. :)