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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Tears of Destiny on March 21, 2012, 10:23:11 pm

Title: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on March 21, 2012, 10:23:11 pm
Short story shorter.

Shields give bonuses when put together, so for pikes make every adjacent pike give +1 Power Strike.

Why? Well:


Discuss.
Title: Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on March 21, 2012, 10:25:41 pm
Oh yeah and like, this would uh... Nerf cav and stuff too. Cuz pikewalls! This would also allow us to increase horsebump damage to realistic one-shot levels WITHOUT it being OP, due to the pikewalls!
Title: Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
Post by: Anwyl on March 21, 2012, 10:29:11 pm
I like pokey sticks.

More pokey sticks is better pokey sticks.
Title: Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
Post by: Leshma on March 21, 2012, 10:31:22 pm
For a moment I thought you were serious because most Fallen members seem to be hoplites these days. And I know that you have polespam alt.
Title: Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
Post by: Bulzur on March 21, 2012, 10:35:53 pm
Point 2 : STR needs a buff
Point 4 : AGI suffer
Hum... that's... hum... contradictory.


Point 5 : Totally agree.
Title: Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
Post by: larlek on March 21, 2012, 10:44:59 pm
It could work I guess but there would have to be restrictions to stop it from being abused. Like it only works while standing still or something.
Title: Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
Post by: Anwyl on March 21, 2012, 10:46:18 pm
For a moment I thought you were serious because most Fallen members seem to be hoplites these days. And I know that you have polespam alt.

I think we only have 1 hoplite. But I use a pike a lot on my alt.

It could work I guess but there would have to be restrictions to stop it from being abused. Like it only works while standing still or something.

Maybe it could be +1 IF for every other pike near you (To a max of like 3 or something)

That way it's more about surviving arrows and such.
Title: Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
Post by: Logen on March 21, 2012, 10:52:45 pm
why do you quote oberyn in your sig
Title: Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
Post by: Penitent on March 21, 2012, 10:55:48 pm
You had me until you said shielder is a skill-less class.  You need all the friends you can get to lobby!

If spin-stab is removed, I will vote yes to pike walls.
Title: Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
Post by: Gurnisson on March 21, 2012, 10:59:49 pm
Nice troll
Title: Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
Post by: Anwyl on March 21, 2012, 11:17:46 pm
why do you quote oberyn in your sig

Because he is a neo-chocolate chip cookie racist and I thought it was funny having him admit as much.
Title: Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
Post by: Gravoth_iii on March 22, 2012, 12:00:18 am
I really dont think Strength needs a buff lol, and pikes do incredible damage already all you need to do is stick with a teammate. Rewarding teamwork is very good but pikes dont really need a buff.
Title: Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
Post by: Korgoth on March 22, 2012, 12:05:59 am
Sorry I didn't read anything. I just think Boxxy is sooo fit.
Title: Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
Post by: Kafein on March 22, 2012, 12:14:13 am
The only attribute that would get a big gain from a free PS bonus is agi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dddAi8FF3F4

I'd say I'm fine with an anti-range only armor bonus to symbolise the projectiles that are deflected by the pikewall (this is historically accurate). But I'll pass because this thread is about trolling.
Title: Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
Post by: Joker86 on March 22, 2012, 12:21:17 am
2. Strength needs a buff, and this would allow strength players to properly compete against AGI, earlier I saw a thread about STR needing a buff and I agree.
[...]
4. AGI builds currently suffer, so make it where this would allow them to compete with strength builds due to the free power strike.

Point 2 does not make any sense and is contradicted by point 4.


If this is not some kind of weird trolling I actually like the idea of the suggestion, but I think it's useless.

Pikemen can't use shield, so many pikes standing next to each other would draw a lot of fire. Which will end badly for the pike wall.

Next to this, the use of several pikes on one spot is rather limited, because all melee players need to do is to downblock. Pikes are only effective if supported by (or better: supporting) other melee weapons with more attack directions. Yes, pikes can be really nasty, but guess what happens when five two handers run downblockingly (?) into a wall of several pikemen who are standing close to each other, and facehug them. Best thing the pikes can achieve in this scenario are a few glance-stuns, nothing more. If their formation is broken up they will block each other, while the two handed swordsmen can go rampage between them.

Mixing the pike wall with other classes would break up the bonus, I guess. Standing still and blocking with your shield works better without moving than fighting with a slow, unbalanced and single-directionally attacking pike.

So I say I am neither for nor against this suggestion, all I say it's useless.
Title: Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
Post by: Mallets on March 22, 2012, 07:09:43 am
I like.

I'd also love to see a function where you can brace your pike in the ground, having it point upwards in an angle!  If you move, it'd unbrace... kind of the opposite way that crouching works.

Then you could have Pike guys standing in formation behind shield walls, with their pikes sticking through.  That'd be amazing!

Anything that involves formations and promotes teamwork gets my vote.
Title: Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
Post by: Smoothrich on March 22, 2012, 09:49:07 am
+1'd while it was troll thread, now it turned to real discussion, -1'ing so people don't think this is actually a good idea

unless you give cav together +riding skill for laughs and immune to rearing effects except by pikes when charging en masse + hp buff
unless they are xbow cav then they get - 10 all stats
Title: Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on March 22, 2012, 09:54:55 am
+1'd while it was troll thread, now it turned to real discussion, -1'ing so people don't think this is actually a good idea

unless you give cav together +riding skill for laughs and immune to rearing effects except by pikes when charging en masse + hp buff
unless they are xbow cav then they get - 10 all stats

yes this. Also a +15 to horse bump damage for each horse in the formation.
Title: Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
Post by: Wookimonsta on March 22, 2012, 10:23:30 am
yes to pike formation, yes to cav formation
Title: Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
Post by: Xant on March 22, 2012, 10:26:46 am
+1, i can barely wait to face 15 PS pike walls
Title: Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
Post by: Logen on March 22, 2012, 10:33:49 am
Its gonna be awesome
Title: Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
Post by: Ohayashi on March 22, 2012, 08:28:03 pm
Sorry I didn't read anything. I just think Boxxy is sooo fit.

Fit bird there, right and proper.
Title: Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
Post by: n445 on March 22, 2012, 08:42:17 pm
thats exactly whT everyone needs... A whole clan of pikers abusing pike wall... yay theres 10 pikemen...

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