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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Helrekkr on January 05, 2011, 08:25:03 am
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So, since I'm at work now and I can't test until later tonight, but I was redoing my point allocation, I was wondering what those of you that have played so far think of XBows now ?
Does spending WPP in the XBow skill seem more meaningfull ?
Does NOT spending any WPP in XBows make them a lot worse than before ?
Any personal impressions of people that have played with xbows (and points in the xbow skill :P ) would be great .
I'm asking because I'd like to know what to spend my current WPP in first, 1h or xbow, and I couldn't see anything about xbows in the "patch notes" chadz provided earlier.
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Does spending WPP in the XBow skill seem more meaningfull ?
Yes, very. The reticule with 120 wpf seems like the old 200 wpf crossbow reticule.
Does NOT spending any WPP in XBows make them a lot worse than before ?
Not really, but it makes them a bit pointless given they're expensive and damage is drastically cut down.
Any personal impressions of people that have played with xbows (and points in the xbow skill :P ) would be great .
They're more accurate when you have crossbow wpf, but they are much less damaging - you'll require two hits to down almost everyone with top tier crossbows, and probably three with lower end ones. But it was a necessary balance measure, so.
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Sounds good, I'll try XBow WPF spending first to check it out.
Currently using a Well Made Siege Crossbow with 82 WPF. Bit worried about my old 1h/shield combo though, might have to seriously downgrade my shield because it's 4 times as expensive :S (oh and my sword is 3 times as expensive too :( )
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Hey, at least Xbows still do piercing damage and a good hit will 1 shot people :)
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@ Helrekkr: Well Made Siege Xbow? Can you share the specification/stats of that piece of art?
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Sure, here you go:
Well Made Siege Crossbow 12051
weight 3.75
requirement 15
spd rtng 19
shoot speed 61
thrust damage 79 pierce
max ammo 1
accuracy 94
Can't reload on horseback
It's just the first heirloom though.
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So it is worse than in betabetatests... still better than regular one, and may be worth retiring.
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I'll check my alt which has a heirloomed heavy crossbow x3 I'll update post in a minute.
Bye bye possibility on using it.....
Exceptional Heavy Crossbow 10550
weight 3.5
requirement 12
spd rtng 25
shoot speed 59
thrust damage 70 pierce
max ammo 1
accuracy 94
Can't reload on horseback
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Why not ? just not as a sidearm to plate armor + cookies :P
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Exceptional Siege Crossbow 15264 weight 3.75
requirement 15
spd rtng 20
shoot speed 63
thrust damage 83 pierce
max ammo 1
accuracy 95
Can't reload on horseback
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Unless repair cost is lowered that one would cost me on 2k or more alone.
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Since we're posting stats, I'll throw mine in for completeness.
Exceptional Crossbow 7198
weight 3
requirement 10
spd rtng 30
shoot speed 55
thrust damage 60 pierce
max ammo 1
accuracy 93
It was 2 points faster in the betabeta. Oh well.
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Today I played my lvl 25 xbowmen a bit. All in all a dedicated crossbowmen makes fun now, you have much less onehit kills, but a superior accuary (you can aim for heads :twisted:) with an exceptional siege crossbow and medium armor. My char has 140 xbow wpf, which is a lot with the patch (next point costs me 8 points). So there were no points left for any other weapons. I leveled up to 27 and spend 75 points in twohanded weapons to be able to defend myself.
Upkeep for the siege xbow is ~2k gold, so you can't wear any other decent gear. Siege Xbow + heraldic mail + longsword gives me a total loss of ~10k this day, but i think i just had bad luck and connection problems. If it is the same tomorrow i will go down to tunic over mail and bastard sword.
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I played today with the well made siege xbow, studded leather, leather boots, leather gloves, bardiche.
Gained ~12k gold :o
It's quite fun :)
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really thread necromancy arrived to crpg?
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After trying ranged weapons, I have to admit they are so OP in cRPG. The difference between killing somebody with sword and...say.. with xbow is like the difference between knife and AK 47.
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loomed horses, loomed sniper xbow, lolstab ... guess many things need rebalancing
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loomed horses, loomed sniper xbow, lolstab ... guess many things need rebalancing
By many, you mean everything, right ? :mrgreen:
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Upkeep for the siege xbow is ~2k gold, so you can't wear any other decent gear.
17,477 (Siege Crossbow) * 5% (Upkeep cost) = 874 Cost per repair
That's cheaper than a horsemen pays for hes horse. Courser 19818, Sarranid Horse 23982.
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I have in my possession a master-worked sniper crossbow and I rarely one-shot a person(excluding the occasional level 3 peasant that happens to wander in front of the target i am shooting at.). I have had strength builds in 40 body armor take 3 sharp steel bolts from that crossbow and live. Goretooth in his lordly black armor and strength build can take 3 easily (unless shot in the head). I think the crossbow is fairly balanced. Throwing is not however and I think that issue will be addressed. If anyone claims my crossbow is overpowered, I would like to ask them to remember the sniper crossbow BEFORE this last patch. (My sniper was master-worked then as well. The heavy crossbow then, did more damage then my master-worked sniper does now.)
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WPF Oda? I mean, WPF at the moment?
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17,477 (Siege Crossbow) * 5% (Upkeep cost) = 874 Cost per repair
That's cheaper than a horsemen pays for hes horse. Courser 19818, Sarranid Horse 23982.
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Hey, at least Xbows still do piercing damage and a good hit will 1 shot people :)
What is that gif from?!?!?!