No, don't, just give NA the token river field Vaegir lands and mountain clad Steppes again instead of the prime Rhodokian and Swadian lands to play in.
Can't believe I'm agreeing with Tears but.. I agree with it.
Don't feel bad about it cause it's bound to happen to all of us, sooner or later, since ToD is so ever-present.
^ This.It was the best of times, it was the bluRST OF TIMES?!?!?!! YOU STUPID MONKEY!!!
Just remember the "Million Monkeys at a Keyboard" theory, where if you have a million monkeys pounding away, eventually you will have the complete works of Shakespeare.
Also I don't think comparing yourself to a million monkeys is appropriate. Take that however you want.
Fallen is not EU/NA anymore then?
Fallen is not EU/NA anymore then?
U just mad, because Eu is so much more powerfull
(whereas fighting on the NA side largely, I think, prevented anyone from having one long, free caravan area)It's not just the fighting. Something like the half the space allotted to NA is a patchwork of rivers and mountains that turn any long distance travel into a massive fucking chore as you weave around map hazards to avoid touching a bridge's ghost length and slowing to a dead crawl of .0003m/min or whatever.
Also did, anyone ever figure out what that supposed benefit to having a coastal city that chadz said would totally make up for NA getting a shit deal on the map division?
Why do only NA clans get to escape from "The group of clans formerly known as the UIF that are no longer allied but are still friends and now help each other out through coincidence rather than through any sort of grand plan" (or the UIF for short 8-))
:mrgreen:
Three maps, one for North America, one for the UIF, one for Europe.
Three maps, one for North America, one for the UIF, one for Europe.
I HAVE A BETTER IDEA. We can all pitch in and pay for a Strat Battle Server that will be located on a boat or an old oil rig out in the middle of the atlantic ocean. Whenever its a NA vs EU strat battle the battle will take place on that server, where we will all have decent ping, or atleast the same ping.
So you say that only Poles and Russians are cheating? Pretty hard to understand since ppl everywhere are the same.
Wow lemmy your such a fucking genius! like ? WOW!
Fucking tired of EU care baring it up 2 hi hell lets have 2 STRATS so we dont gotta .. O wait all of NA is just gonna join Green again. NOPE!!! 22222222
Wow lemmy your such a fucking genius! like ? WOW!
Fucking tired of EU care baring it up 2 hi hell lets have 2 STRATS so we dont gotta .. O wait all of NA is just gonna join Green again. NOPE!!! 22222222
Strat is simulated warfare/politics and it in my opinion it isn't ment to be fair. Either the smaller clans have to ally to a larger force or be crushed if any larger force wills it. Splitting the servers wont change that much, the largest and most productive army is STILL going to dominate most of the land. Sure its going to reduce the player pool and some smaller clans can possibly get a fief. You are still going to get crushed when the bigger army looks your way. NA clans need to drop the petty individualistic attitude if they wish to gain a foothold. Anyways just my opinion.
If cheating is involved the banhammer needs to be dropped, period.
Lastly and most importantly, if we wanted a game that you win or lose based upon how many people you got to click a website every so often, for the LOVE OF GOD go play Kings of Chaos.
You might have missed the point about the economics tied to organization size, because this argument only makes sense by disregarding those facts.Thats why your side is totally easiest thing to wipe out and run away to NA.
Simply put, a group of 10 players can produce 10 resources. A group of 20 can produce 25 resources. A group of 40 can produce 40 resources.
Why?
Trade distance, territory control as the most basic reason.
These numbers are just random examples to show a simple model for current Strategus mechanics, obviously not real Strategus figures.
Throw in the ability of larger factions to reduce economic disruption because of immediately superior power, relatively speaking (and taking territory faster, too) and smaller groups' cost challenge of maintaining their already limited production space in fiefs.
Yea... the only mechanic in Strategus that I can think of that doesn't favor large organizations is the 49-troop rule giving small players a baseline of troops to start with without cost penalty. Of course, anyone who plays Strategus seriously knows that 49 troops won't make a big difference until, you guessed it, you've got a large organization with a lot of 49 troop pockets.
Here's an admittedly crappy example of what I mean. The ante for taking a village is 500 troops. If you have less, you're almost certain to fail at taking the village. So you need 10 players with 49 troops to gain the advantage of avoiding troop costs. A faction of 100 players, on the other hand, get 4900 "free" troops. Anteing up is super easy for this faction. So I'd make a totally arbitrary guess that you need at least 25 active players or so to gain any usable benefit from the 49 troop rule in regards to taking fiefs, which is the only way to make any serious, material benefit in Strategus.
This isn't nearly as important of a concern as the crazy broken economics and the positive feedback mechanism of unrestrained economic growth-by-size-times-distance overpowering smaller factions.
Lastly and most importantly, if we wanted a game that you win or lose based upon how many people you got to click a website every so often, for the LOVE OF GOD go play Kings of Chaos.
EG Up to 1000 troops is low upkeep Up to 10,000 is medium upkeep, etc.This is actually a really awesome idea and makes sense.
Each player with an army would pay upkeep based on this tax band.
Polish & Russian gaming community have a notorious reputation and they keep proving it on a daily basis even in a free little mod like this.
We will kill you next strat also because i personally hate you.
Checking goods everyday , finding place to go , finding online member to make the caravan , making aggrement with factions.So easy isnt it , one click ? For you "Being good at trading"Oh look at me, I get to skip around in the land of faeries and carry my goods about with one click.
What do you waiting from strategus ? Putting a crown on Ramses ? Its the best strategus atm they cant make a new thing.
What is the name of this topic ?
So as much as this is adorable, can people actually be on topic and stop being idiots about this?Thats why i am supporting EU NA split ribaldron i didnt get your post anyway
If you want to shit talk each other, do it in the thrice-damned cesspool known as the diplomacy section.
Stay on topic and don't make me warn you again, or so help me god I will start posting Boxxy Gifs with every single post I make for the rest of my c-RPG stay to "punctuate" my points, and get inventive with SNSD again... Maybe even introduce some Kim Kardashian/Paris Hilton/etc action too...
Thats why your side is totally easiest thing to wipe out and run away to NA.
Let me just put a point for you we started strategus with 20 members now we are 107 members.Even if we were 20 members we were the biggest army that attacking byzantium.The thing is you guys suck in diplomacy , army commanding , action commanding , trade management and economy.
Split NA - EU so both sides have larger maps but there is only 1 problem NA dont have enough people to use all of the map like EU.If we gonna have whole map only EU probably every clan gonna take a fief and it will be awesome we can see new factions by merging and also old factions wont be same.
Also tears, would this mean that fallen would essentially split into two different branches on the both the EU and NA map?
Oh he was being American, he thought you meant trade was as easy as one click.i thought i was speaking english, his main language =)
Which was the opposite to what you were saying, of course.
I am not the person nor is this the place to answer that, my apologies.
i can even make Fus Ro Dah with my noseFus-rah-CHOO?
Now I don't know this for a fact but I believe strat = simulated warfare. Yet here you guys are asking for it to be fair....Like some people have suggested swallow your pride and allign with a "king" or be crushed like a rebel.I think the main problem is that NA has proven, strat after strat, to be very warlike. EU, when cordoned off, has shown that it is perfectly capable of exterminating resistance, and resorting to peaceful and VERY profitable trade. They also control the most lucrative sections of map, IMHO, and much more of it than does NA.
Yes larger size = more economic power.....duh?
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The larger map honestly I think would cause more harm than help.
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Strat is simulated warfare/politics and it in my opinion it isn't ment to be fair. Either the smaller clans have to ally to a larger force or be crushed if any larger force wills it. Splitting the servers wont change that much, the largest and most productive army is STILL going to dominate most of the land. Sure its going to reduce the player pool and some smaller clans can possibly get a fief. You are still going to get crushed when the bigger army looks your way. NA clans need to drop the petty individualistic attitude if they wish to gain a foothold. Anyways just my opinion.
If cheating is involved the banhammer needs to be dropped, period.
We can have a new continent where Drz/str and allies are the bad guys and the rest are all good guys. But then Fallen would join Drz and we be doubly screwed :cry:Nah. It would be easier to win if Fallen joined them.
The first continent to have a unified power would have this option and they could initiate the invasion whenever they wanted.This will be like Day 3 for Europe, just FYI.
Heres an idea that involves fighting on high ping.
-133 people voted in this poll. That's a fairly sizable chunk of the Strategus playerbase.You missed the most important part of the poll:
61.7% FAVOR splitting into an NA and an EU Strategus.
33.9% DISFAVOR splitting.
GET RID OF IT!
I will, I just need to figure out an actual, proper avatar, that I want.visitors can't see pics , please register or login
Nah. It would be easier to win if Fallen joined them.We headshot them while behind their lines :o
We headshot them while behind their lines :oExactly! You don't want people behind you headshoting you, now would you?