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Title: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Ujin on March 10, 2012, 10:44:23 pm
All credits for the textures, pictures and commentaries on the armors  go to Zimke Zlovojni. A HUGE Thank you Zimke for all your tremendous work ! Also thank you Taimic for keeping the item list updated and thank you Byzantium clan for making a contribution to this idea !



Alright, let's get started .


1. Peltastos armor + helmet

This Eastern Roman skirmisher is wearing padded jacket over the leather jacket. Padding is decorated with rivets.
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Suggested Stats :

Helmet :

weight: 1
head armor: 27
difficulty: 7

Armor :

weight: 5.5
body armor: 27
leg armor: 10
difficulty: 7

2. Skutatos Armor + helmet

This Eastern Roman spearman is wearing mail hauberk over the leather jacket. He also wares splinted handguards. Note the chest belt distinctive for Eastern Roman and Serbian equipment, this belt is used to properly arrange the weight distribution of the armor.

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Suggested Stats :


Helmet :

weight: 1.5
head armor: 34
difficulty: 9


Armor :

weight: 9.6
body armor: 37
leg armor: 6
difficulty: 9


3. Byzantine Palace Guard + Varangian helmet

This warrior is wearing padded coat, mail hauberk and blue robes decorated with monarchical insignias. His helmet is English Varangian helmet, combining in itself byzantine style and english origins of the warrior. Palace guard is consisted of Varangians of different origin (depending of the period).

This war helmet is decorated in Eastern Roman style while the general shape is typical war/kettle helmet. This helmet is fastened with leather belt. Aventail is closed for better face protection of the wearer.

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Suggested Stats :

Helmet :

weight: 2.7
head armor: 48
difficulty: 13


Armor :

weight: 12.6
body armor: 42
leg armor: 8
difficulty: 11


4. Mongolian (Golden Horde ) Armor + Helmet   

This Mongolian warrior is wearing lamellar cuirass, bazubands, silk robes for better arrows prottection and tall mongolian helmet. Note the interesting belt design. Bazubands are decorated with brass embosing.

This segmented tall helmet has leather neck protection and earpieces decorated with embosing. Helmet also have horse tail attached to it.

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Suggested Stats :

Helmet :

weight: 2.6
head armor: 46
difficulty: 12

Armor :

weight: 17.2
body armor: 48
leg armor: 13
difficulty: 12


5. Archons Armor
This Eastern Roman officer/official is wearing painted lamellar armor, expensive red robe, blue cape with decorated trimming held in place with golden buckle decorated with jewels. It has padding under the cuirass. It's belt is expensively decorated too. His helmet has brass embosing depicting ortodox saint. Metal is protected from weathering with red paint.

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Suggested Stats :

weight: 16.4
body armor: 47
leg armor: 12
difficulty: 12

6. Kataphractoi Armor

This Klibanophoroi warrior is of higher military status then regular Klibanophoroi warrior. He is wearing padding, mail hauberk, leather jacket, lamellar cuirass, shoulderpads, splinted handguards and distinctive plate that is showing his status. His expensive cape is held with decorated golden fibula.

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Suggested Stats:

weight: 17
body armor: 48
leg armor: 12
difficulty: 12


7. Pronoia Heavy Cavalry armor + Helmet

This Eastern Roman warrior is wearing mail hauberk above lamellar armor, silk robe and padding. His helmet is of distinctive shape providing extra protection for his neck with his longer back side. Note the ridge of the helmet that is used to further protect the construction of helmet and aditionaly increase the protection of the wearer. This cavalryman is granted a fief for his military service called pronoia.
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Suggested Stats :

Helmet :

weight: 2.8
head armor: 49
difficulty: 13

Armor :

weight: 19.7
body armor: 50
leg armor: 18
difficulty: 13


8. Clibanarios Armor + Helmet

This Clibanarii or Klibanophoroi is Eastern Roman heavy cavalryman. He is wearing padding, mail hauberk, lamellar armor and padded coat. He also uses the distinctive chest belt which is decorated with medalions showing he is a person of military achievements.

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Suggested Stats :

Helmet :

weight: 2.6
head armor: 47
difficulty: 13

Armor :

weight: 21.4
body armor: 53
leg armor: 18
difficulty: 14

9. Varangopoulos (late period guard) armor + Bascinet Helmet with gorgette (neckguard)
This heavy Eastern Roman Varangian warrior of the period when last varangians existed, is wearing distinctive mixture of Europian and Eastern Roman style armor. Under typical europian hands, legs, kness, elbow protection and not typical non-covered brigandine he is wearing mail hauberk and leather jacket. He is also wearing expensive red robes. His head is protected with Bascinet with hinged bevor of Eastern Roman and Serbian style. Bascinets itself were usualy bought from German or Italian manufacturers. This gorgets are result of the need for better protection against arrows which is the product of increased use of archery in the regions due to Ottoman attacks.

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Suggested Stats :


Helmet :

weight: 3
head armor: 51
difficulty: 14

Armor :

weight: 22.5
body armor: 54
leg armor: 18
difficulty: 14



10. Byzantine Officer Helmets with/without mail coif and with /without red paint

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Suggested Stats :

Non- painted helmets without a coif :

weight: 2.5
head armor: 46
difficulty: 13


With red paint +1 armor point

With a coif + 2 armor points




That is all. For now. Most probably and hopefully we will be bringing a variety of other items for cRPG soon.

Feel free to comment on the items whether you like them or not .Thank You for your attention =).




Byzantium_Ujin.



Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Christo on March 10, 2012, 10:47:12 pm
Thread full of win.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Teeth on March 10, 2012, 10:51:07 pm
Imma be one handsome fucker now!
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Gisbert_of_Thuringia on March 10, 2012, 10:51:35 pm
Look cool. I want those ingame, but also some more of the nordic helmets which are in one of the many threads^^
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Ikarus on March 10, 2012, 10:53:03 pm
*drools*
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: MadeForFighting on March 10, 2012, 10:54:23 pm
Mother of God...
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Miwiw on March 10, 2012, 10:58:34 pm
YES! YES! Love them!
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Kansuke on March 10, 2012, 10:58:50 pm
ADD THEM ALL NAO FOOL.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: BADPLAYERold on March 10, 2012, 11:03:19 pm
All of them look awesome. Nice job on the models/textures.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: _Tak_ on March 10, 2012, 11:04:54 pm
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4. Mongolian (Golden Horde ) Armor + Helmet   

This Mongolian warrior is wearing lamellar cuirass, bazubands, silk robes for better arrows prottection and tall mongolian helmet. Note the interesting belt design. Bazubands are decorated with brass embosing.

This segmented tall helmet has leather neck protection and earpieces decorated with embosing. Helmet also have horse tail attached to it.


This must be added
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Ujin on March 10, 2012, 11:06:19 pm
This must be added
I was kinda hoping that particular set would make the GK's happy :D.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on March 10, 2012, 11:06:23 pm
More items will make this mod even more fun!!!
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Angantyr on March 10, 2012, 11:22:52 pm
Beautiful. That Byzantine equipment has both Eastern and Western influences also has the added bonus of giving it many applications within the current gear setup.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Casimir on March 10, 2012, 11:24:08 pm
Look nice guys, good work.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Vibe on March 10, 2012, 11:26:27 pm
Wow amazing, love the detail.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: HarunYahya on March 10, 2012, 11:26:52 pm
Me definetly like
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I also want to see this smiling grey ms paint dude on the right side of the pic in game  :lol:
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on March 10, 2012, 11:31:38 pm
whoaaah maximum roleplaying!
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Gravoth_iii on March 10, 2012, 11:37:21 pm
Gief Lordly Byzantine Palace guard stuff, nao.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Ujin on March 10, 2012, 11:37:24 pm
ok all the descriptions (commentaries) are finished now. Thanks again Zimke , you're awesome . =)
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Thovex on March 10, 2012, 11:40:12 pm
Great stuff, sadly it doesn't get add anyway...
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: HarunYahya on March 10, 2012, 11:43:14 pm
Great stuff, sadly it doesn't get add anyway...
I'll probably make another ragecomic for this thread  :twisted:
Like this...
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,25064.msg399982.html#msg399982
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Ujin on March 10, 2012, 11:44:27 pm
Great stuff, sadly it doesn't get add anyway...
I wouldn't be so pessimistic about it, after all all these are exclusive cRPG items made by one of the best at his craftsmanship out there. We wouldn't have started to work on this if we ddin't get any approval from the devs =).

Now WHEN it gets addded is a completely different story though...

@ Bashibazouks - i know the feeling guys=). We just gotta wait, hopefully in the next item patch we'll see both turkish and byzantine stuff added :>.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Lactose_the_intolerant on March 10, 2012, 11:45:52 pm
Im gonna be a fancy palace guard :D
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Leshma on March 10, 2012, 11:50:21 pm
This is awesome. I'm so glad that Zimke decided to make Palace Guard armor. I saw that picture recently and thought how awesome would be to have something as beautiful as that in cRPG.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Kajia on March 10, 2012, 11:56:39 pm
YESSSS!
great work! big kudos!

I didn't like the first too at first glance, too stiff imho - but hey, if all of this stuff gets in, carebears! :D
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Ujin on March 11, 2012, 12:00:23 am
holy crap. How am I supposed to get all this stuff as lordly to not have to play with the shitty looking Rus stuff I have +3 now  :cry:

add naow, or Mod is once again alive and kicking.
hey , i dont even have enough loom points to trade to get ONE of these lordly ,care to share ? :D
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Bjord on March 11, 2012, 12:07:40 am
Impressive. :o
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on March 11, 2012, 12:10:04 am
really awesome stuff!

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Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Teeth on March 11, 2012, 12:34:56 am
Me definetly like
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I also want to see this smiling grey ms paint dude on the right side of the pic in game  :lol:
Dafuq? Seen that pic dozens of times, was that always there?
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on March 11, 2012, 12:35:10 am
That is some nice work. I'm really impressed. I hope it all gets added.

I would also like to say, THANK YOU! Thank you for adding such awesome stuff to the community and putting your time into making this mod better.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Stylin_ATS on March 11, 2012, 01:51:05 am
DO WANT GOLDEN HORDE ARMOUR.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on March 11, 2012, 01:57:02 am
Amazing quality
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Rhombeus on March 11, 2012, 02:35:56 am
Ooooh I'm gonna look even sexier than normal.

Cheers for Sorting this out Ujin and all from the Byzantium clan for pitching in the cash!!
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Digglez on March 11, 2012, 02:45:55 am
yeah! even more textures to decrease mod performance!
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: joespose on March 11, 2012, 02:51:13 am
Really nice stuff  :wink:
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Zandieer on March 11, 2012, 03:21:18 am
English Varangian helmet <3
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Zimke Zlovoljni on March 11, 2012, 03:24:04 am
yeah! even more textures to decrease mod performance!

Actually with that little optimization pack (no loss of quality, just textures placed in correct format) I did, texture folder will still be 20MB smaller then it is now, even with textures from this pack. So do yourself a favour and try it out, just place the files from Optimization packs texture folder in cRPG's texture folder and that's it.
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,25836.0.html (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,25836.0.html)
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: ulfardarri on March 11, 2012, 03:25:59 am
I like these armors ;Þ  :D
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 11, 2012, 03:35:05 am
who are the 4 that voted no? permaban is the only adequate punishment here!
permaban? That's not big enough a punishment, they must be raped by clan Gnjus!
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: karasu on March 11, 2012, 03:36:10 am
Firefighter helmets!
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Jarlek on March 11, 2012, 03:40:14 am
Nice! The only thing we miss now is banners and balistaes :D
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Lamk on March 11, 2012, 03:51:03 am
Nice but as usual, this mail texture is too dark. It would be nice also to make these armors

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Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Froto_the_Loc on March 11, 2012, 04:32:14 am
I'm not a total fan of the odd helmets, but the armor is glorious.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: autobus on March 11, 2012, 04:41:38 am
Fantastic job.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Ealoseum on March 11, 2012, 08:21:22 am
Me Gusta zis :D
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Prpavi on March 11, 2012, 09:04:18 am
YES! more armors! love it

p.s. could you or someone make some more gauntlets?
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Byrdi on March 11, 2012, 09:56:26 am
Nice.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: tkn123 on March 11, 2012, 10:30:52 am
This must be added

Well said Alex, that Mongolian (Golden Horde) should be a definite add... all these armours look beautiful but that one is especially awesome! imo :)
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Chagan_Arslan on March 11, 2012, 10:35:16 am
yeah Mongolian one looks awesome, love the color and the lammelar armor under the cavalry robe ;] would choose it as main armor ;]
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Lactose_the_intolerant on March 11, 2012, 11:08:52 am
This is awesome. I'm so glad that Zimke decided to make Palace Guard armor. I saw that picture recently and thought how awesome would be to have something as beautiful as that in cRPG.

Ujin submited the palace guard to my attention and i got pysked like a virgin over justin bieber. So i asked it to be made :D (you can see I'v been wearing it on my avatar :p)

GKs:

Yea we knew we would make you happy :p
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: BlameMeForTheNoise on March 11, 2012, 11:56:50 am
So this stuff is cRPG exclusive. I dont see why this should not be added. I hope the item balance-team also sees the great worth in the new items and does a fast job. ;)
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Teeth on March 11, 2012, 12:02:38 pm
and i got pysked like a virgin over justin bieber.
You and every frenchman out there.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Digu213 on March 11, 2012, 03:49:58 pm
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If this helmet isnt added... Then I will personally slay the persons who didnt pick it !!!

I want it naow plz plz plz plz plz gief it to me !
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 11, 2012, 04:55:10 pm
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The fuck? Why was this not implermented the second it was posted!? I SO FUCKING WANT THIS!
Not a big fan of the helmet, but the armor is so freaking amazing.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: B3RS3RK on March 11, 2012, 06:16:49 pm
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANT
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Ikarus on March 11, 2012, 07:02:58 pm
Dafuq? Seen that pic dozens of times, was that always there?
yes, mr. middlefingersmile has always been there

can´t wait till it´s out :3
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: _Tak_ on March 11, 2012, 08:31:26 pm
Great stuff, sadly it doesn't get add anyway...

I'll probably make another ragecomic for this thread  :twisted:
Like this...
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,25064.msg399982.html#msg399982

Maybe thats because you guys didn't post it in Suggestion's corner instead of general discussion?
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Stylin_ATS on March 12, 2012, 12:04:58 am
The armour value and weight you put on the golden horde armour seems a bit too much, it is after all supposed to offer flexibility and be lightweight enough to use on horseback while shooting a bow.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Ujin on March 12, 2012, 12:17:11 am
The armour value and weight you put on the golden horde armour seems a bit too much, it is after all supposed to offer flexibility and be lightweight enough to use on horseback while shooting a bow.
take a look at clibanarii armor. those guys used bows from horseback too, you know. enough said =).

p.s. horde's heavy cavalry :

http://s41.radikal.ru/i094/1105/05/da5feb2eaf4f.jpg

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTVejeXtgE8G5MgKpD-OEqS0H2nrdvmBOdpOi8k0J27HeZOLlWDn3LDOjU5ZQ

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/237/archersattackingmid13thgx0.png/

http://www.jimmcdowall.org.uk/assets/images/db_images/db_Mongol_Cavalry_Leeds_Armoury1.jpg


heavy turkish rider (1) http://tinypic.com/jsj6nr.jpg

you can shoot a bow alright wearing a heavy armor riding a horse.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: BattalGazi on March 12, 2012, 01:14:33 pm
With these armors added, we will have more fun killing byzantine crows !!!  :twisted: :twisted:

Great stuff, I demand them be added right away.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Largg on March 12, 2012, 01:36:06 pm
Credits:
Quote from: Shik
Zimke Zlovoljni: Ottoman Turkish armors and clothes, Byzantine & Golden Horde Armours

I'm so excited!
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: BattalGazi on March 12, 2012, 01:40:45 pm
Credits:
I'm so excited!

Where did you get that quote from?
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Largg on March 12, 2012, 01:42:33 pm
Where did you get that quote from?

Couldn't quote it straight because the thread is locked. http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,3043.0.html (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,3043.0.html)
Edited yesterday.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: BattalGazi on March 12, 2012, 01:46:33 pm
Oh ... that's fake
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Digu213 on March 12, 2012, 03:39:24 pm
Pronoia helmet is looking great ! If it doesnt get added I will mod it in myself !

Where is these armours from are they downloadable ?
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Teeth on March 12, 2012, 05:08:53 pm
Pronoia helmet is looking great ! If it doesnt get added I will mod it in myself !

Where is these armours from are they downloadable ?
These items were commissioned by clan Byzantium and textured by Zimke Zlovojni. They have been made specifically for cRPG.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Captain_Georges on March 12, 2012, 05:42:42 pm
shit sucks
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: POOPHAMMER on March 12, 2012, 05:45:30 pm
oh god i need those kettle helmets
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Joker86 on March 12, 2012, 06:49:05 pm
I hope those items get accepted as soon as possible, so perhaps we have a chance they already appear ingame half a year later... although appearing in 2013 would still be quick, for cRPG-standards...
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Teeth on March 12, 2012, 07:37:08 pm
I hope those items get accepted as soon as possible, so perhaps we have a chance they already appear ingame half a year later... although appearing in 2013 would still be quick, for cRPG-standards...
Yeah hoping for 1st quarter of 2013 too.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Stylin_ATS on March 12, 2012, 07:46:50 pm
shhhh! praise the awesomeness of these armors or


Oh they're awesome, don't get me wrong. As a long time HA I'll certainly be using it, it just seems for an armour targeted at HAs it's pretty heavy, it's almost the same as coat of plates. Do you see any HAs wearing anything heavier than a kuyak (12.5ish weight)?

Anyway, I hope all of these make it into the game asap, more variety is nice, and they're all very nice quality.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: HELM on March 12, 2012, 07:59:38 pm
everything = must add
3-6 = must add + win from head to toe
4 Mongolian = must add + win from head to toe + must have now

Epicness
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: _Tak_ on March 12, 2012, 08:58:41 pm
Post download link so that the dev can add this? They already said they will add it in credits.?
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Lactose_the_intolerant on March 12, 2012, 09:17:17 pm
we asked zimke to make them after we had the dev's team approval. they should be in the next patch
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Thovex on March 12, 2012, 11:39:11 pm
I wouldn't be so pessimistic about it, after all all these are exclusive cRPG items made by one of the best at his craftsmanship out there. We wouldn't have started to work on this if we ddin't get any approval from the devs =).

Now WHEN it gets addded is a completely different story though...

@ Bashibazouks - i know the feeling guys=). We just gotta wait, hopefully in the next item patch we'll see both turkish and byzantine stuff added :>.

 :D

Although by the time I'll be playing Guild Wars 2  :P
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Ujin on March 13, 2012, 10:08:36 am
:D

Although by the time I'll be playing Guild Wars 2  :P
wanna bet your crpg looms/ money ? :)
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: _Tak_ on March 13, 2012, 11:41:39 am
we asked zimke to make them after we had the dev's team approval. they should be in the next patch

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I think the dev already has approve this? Shik is the one who is in charge of adding new items, and he has already put Zimke in the credits.  :o
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Trikipum on March 13, 2012, 01:16:46 pm
I say, dont add any of these until they change the horrible black armor model.....come on guys, there are thousands of replacements for that rmor that looks like the guy was using a black adidas tracksuit. Replace the black armor with something you feel proud after you kill one guy with those... and not feeling pity....
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 13, 2012, 02:23:56 pm
Oh they're awesome, don't get me wrong. As a long time HA I'll certainly be using it, it just seems for an armour targeted at HAs it's pretty heavy, it's almost the same as coat of plates. Do you see any HAs wearing anything heavier than a kuyak (12.5ish weight)?
I agree, they're way to heavy for my poor HT, don't make me keep on using the cav rope... DON'T...
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Teeth on March 13, 2012, 02:42:53 pm
I say, dont add any of these until they change the horrible black armor model.....come on guys, there are thousands of replacements for that rmor that looks like the guy was using a black adidas tracksuit. Replace the black armor with something you feel proud after you kill one guy with those... and not feeling pity....
Screw that, the ugly ass black armor is part of cRPG culture. Don't let the black armor follow the route of the long maul/boulder on a stick. Retarded items and retarded fun once made this mod, that has mostly dissappeared. Don't you take away the black armour!

The heaviest armor is also the ugliest. You pay for protection with both money and beauty, as it should be.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: B3RS3RK on March 13, 2012, 02:46:01 pm
I´d rather have the boulder on a stick back and the Black armor changed.The Boulder model and texture were good, at least.The black armor is just horrible.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Digu213 on March 13, 2012, 03:15:08 pm
HD reskin ? on the blackarmour ?
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Teeth on March 13, 2012, 06:02:16 pm
Epicness has arrived!
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Frankysan on March 13, 2012, 06:06:53 pm
selling loompoint for 10 zillions, pm me for discounts
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Jambi on March 13, 2012, 06:15:52 pm
I like the textures.

But i think some of the suggested stats on the items are a bit unbalanced
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Leshma on March 13, 2012, 06:29:49 pm
Not really. Palace guard is pretty much the same as Light Kuyak, maybe even worse stat wise. A little less weight for less leg protection, fair tradeoff imho. I think Ujin was the one who suggested these stats, he did fine job imho.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: MR_FISTA on March 13, 2012, 06:45:07 pm
Finally I can be a mongol.

For the Golden Horde
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Ujin on March 13, 2012, 06:52:29 pm
Not really. Palace guard is pretty much the same as Light Kuyak, maybe even worse stat wise. A little less weight for less leg protection, fair tradeoff imho. I think Ujin was the one who suggested these stats, he did fine job imho.
And as usual, they decided to go with their own stats. We were expecting that , but pronoiya helmet 45 head armor ? Archons armor lighter than a mail tunic with surcoat ?

Both me and Zimke are like "wtf? 0_o" atm.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Leshma on March 13, 2012, 06:56:48 pm
Well, if they made it like you suggested:
- there would be far less teddy bears which is a good thing
- palace guard would become overused and lame just as teddy bear armor

I guess you don't want these armors to become mainstream, right?
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Ujin on March 13, 2012, 07:01:08 pm
Well, if they made it like you suggested:
- there would be far less teddy bears which is a good thing
- palace guard would become overused and lame just as teddy bear armor

I guess you don't want these armors to become mainstream, right?
  i don't mind people choosing the new armors over light kuyaks, occasionally.


Also, barely any helmet apart from varangopoulos has useful stats for a medium- light heavy set (heavist being pronoia - 45. lolwut). Uggghh...
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Lactose_the_intolerant on March 13, 2012, 07:08:07 pm
I asked for the palace guard to have as my main armor, I am a bit dissapointed to see it have 38 armor :/
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Leshma on March 13, 2012, 07:20:59 pm
Me too :(
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Lactose_the_intolerant on March 13, 2012, 07:24:00 pm
i was so excited i already had it in my avatar  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Bjord on March 13, 2012, 07:24:42 pm
Fuck the system. :|

And fuck Urist and Fasaderp.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: MadeForFighting on March 13, 2012, 07:40:09 pm
Thank you.  :D
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Largg on March 13, 2012, 07:50:31 pm
lol nvm, wrong topic
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Zimke Zlovoljni on March 13, 2012, 08:20:07 pm
Looking at first glance, many of the new helmets could benefit from stats revise, current ones are somewhat unadjusted.

Simple Skutatos Helmet need to offer less protection then Roman Helmet, and Roman Helmet more then Skutatos helmet, swaping the values for start would be ok.

Pronoia Helmet design and reinforcement ridge are made to offer better, but let's say the same protection level as current open faced Byzantion Helmet.

Same counts for Clibanarius helmet who should at least be in rank (or better) then Novgorod helm.

On the other hand gotta add that Varangopoulos helmet seems very nicely balanced stat vise, since it's the only open faced helmet with additional neckguard added ingame.



When it comes to armors they also need some love because of their construction. Byzantine equipment in general did not show much of what's under it.
My thougts would be;

Palace Guard armor, it's construction is long padded coat, long mail coat of best quality, padded legs, surcoat. At least to put it just below rank of Mail with Surcoat when it comes to body armor and same protection for legs as Mail with Surcoat.

Archons Armor on the other hand would be of the best quality, since it's intended for nobles and officiers. Putting it in rank with Heavy Kuyak  at least, would seem allright.

When it comes to specific stats numbers I'd say Ujin did a real fine job, so getting the values at least close around his suggestion would be a fair deal.



Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Sagar on March 13, 2012, 09:11:29 pm
Very nice armor pack.
New Varangopoulos Bascinet looks very good on Brigandine. Too bad that have black hole at right side.  :(

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Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Asheram on March 13, 2012, 09:53:25 pm
With red paint +1 armor point
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Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Ujin on March 13, 2012, 09:59:57 pm
With red paint +1 armor point
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extra layer to protect the metal from weather ---> more costly ---> more protection in cRPG perspective. You failed.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Thovex on March 13, 2012, 10:21:48 pm
great armors, glad they added.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Asheram on March 13, 2012, 10:22:22 pm
extra layer to protect the metal from weather ---> more costly ---> more protection in cRPG perspective. You failed.
You took it way too serious--->you failed, it is a video game lighten up  :P
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: polkafranzi on March 14, 2012, 12:54:43 am
So some of this got added right?

With +52 on the OP...

Lederhosen has +58.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Korgoth on March 15, 2012, 07:26:47 pm
New Armours are so purty.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Joker86 on March 15, 2012, 07:36:12 pm
I hope those items get accepted as soon as possible, so perhaps we have a chance they already appear ingame half a year later... although appearing in 2013 would still be quick, for cRPG-standards...

Hereby I withdraw the post above and apologize to the developers. That was some fast piece of work with the Byzantine armours!  :shock:  :D
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Teeth on March 15, 2012, 07:58:08 pm
25 people voted 'no me not like'. Amazing.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Royans on March 15, 2012, 10:29:35 pm
rage vote!
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Bjord on March 15, 2012, 11:22:16 pm
25 people voted 'no me not like'. Amazing.

 
It's just Risen being jealous because they have no artistic talents. Or any other talent for that matter.
 
Unless stupidity could be considered as one.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Tibe on March 16, 2012, 05:30:19 am
Conqrats guys....they are up! :)
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Ujin on March 16, 2012, 11:51:26 am
Bjord, you are so 2011 =)
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Kafein on March 16, 2012, 12:02:59 pm
25 people voted 'no me not like'. Amazing.

Is this supposed to begin some sort of youtube argument about how many dislikes there are and people sick of comments about people that comment on the dislike bar ?
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Bjord on March 16, 2012, 12:30:46 pm
Bjord, you are so 2011 =)

Not so strange since I haven't played since 2011.  :lol:
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Mlekce on March 18, 2012, 01:26:40 pm
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nooo why didn't you make Pronoia Armor look like this serbian armor? It should look more lighter,it is too dark. Can't fit leg armor colors. :cry:
i edited pic
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Joker86 on March 18, 2012, 02:36:00 pm
I can't see the picture, but now I really want to see that Serbian armour.  :|
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Mlekce on March 18, 2012, 06:09:01 pm
here http://www.mycity-military.com/Stari-srednji-i-novi-vek/Srednjovekovni-Srpski-vojnici_3.html i took it from this forum.
There is a lot of interesting pictures,but there is also some crap. Just put mouse on picture to make it bigger.

some history
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Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Zimke Zlovoljni on March 18, 2012, 10:40:36 pm
What equipment Serbs used in medieval period depends on the period itself, in general it was an overall mix of Eastern Roman, German and Italian, same counts for clothing.
But then again, depends on the period and don't forget the German, Italan, Catalan, Aragones, Spaniard, Ossetian ,Cuman, Anatolian Turk, Tatar, Hungarian, Wallachian, Bohemian, Frank, French, Swiss and whole bunch of other mercenaries mentioned in different sources, so we can't generalize things.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Thovex on March 19, 2012, 10:21:43 am

 
It's just Risen being jealous because they have no artistic talents. Or any other talent for that matter.
 
Unless stupidity could be considered as one.

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If stupidity is the art of Risen, why don't you join?

I love Zimke's armors in fact, which is why I was happy they were added in the first place - maybe if you would read the thread you would find out theres stupidity belonging somewhere else.  :rolleyes:

To get artistic talent a man has to practice over and over, which is what I'm doing and I like it. You practice the art of being an idiot at the moment, it's going very well I'd say.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Bjord on March 19, 2012, 12:50:03 pm
I'm not the one who thinks idiocy is an art.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Dede on March 20, 2012, 11:02:12 pm
Great work, as always Zimke! Maybe some armors could have a more intense bumpmap. But overall, nice to see more quality armor and variety in the mod.
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Gisbert_of_Thuringia on March 20, 2012, 11:53:46 pm
I really like the armours, but some of them seem to be really failbalance regarding stats compared to look.

Mongol armour for example. Looks like (and probably consists of) only leather and cloth, but still it has 43 body armour^^

Same goes for some of the others
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Zimke Zlovoljni on March 21, 2012, 12:46:19 am
Look at the chest more closely, you can see lamellar cuiras under the silk (silk is great protection from arrows and infections caused by arows and bulets). Mongols like many others often wore layers of their body protective gear under the garments. Some medieval garments like kazaghand included padding and mail inside of it.
On the other hand Eastern Roman equipment often consisted of padding, mail, lamellar cuirass and padding (with holes for pulling out arms) over all of it, and garments again depending how wealthy was the wearer. Eastern Roman padding design were quite elaborate and standardized depending of it was padding for under or over armor.

Great work, as always Zimke! Maybe some armors could have a more intense bumpmap. But overall, nice to see more quality armor and variety in the mod.

Thanks Dede, love your work too  :wink:  I have general opinion that too strong normalmaps give worse look then the weaker ones, so sometimes some of my normalmaps unintentionaly end up a bit weaker.

Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Korgoth on March 21, 2012, 06:47:29 am
Love the armours Zimke.

One thing is the Skutatos Armour. Maybe bump up the Normalmap because it looks very flat around the leather part.

Also do you have any Texturing tutorials on Taleworlds?

And lastly do you plan on making any more armours for cRPG?
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: rufio on March 21, 2012, 04:08:50 pm
armors look real good, i dont know if this is the right place, but i do have a small remark to post here on the mongol armor, it overall looks awesome, only prob is its pretty fucked up ath the knee to boot connection only thing u can wear to cover that up is the samurai greaves..., plz could u have a look at it ,all other boots fail beneith it, because of this strange finishing at bottem of the body armor :) thx for reading, cheers
Title: Re: Byzantine Armor Pack
Post by: Zimke Zlovoljni on March 21, 2012, 04:13:22 pm
Hm, legs are native, same like in that sarranid cavalryman armor,
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can you make a screenshot of the clipping?

Love the armours Zimke.

One thing is the Skutatos Armour. Maybe bump up the Normalmap because it looks very flat around the leather part.

Also do you have any Texturing tutorials on Taleworlds?

And lastly do you plan on making any more armours for cRPG?
* Thanks ;)

* Actually I was planning to model in the details, a few verts at lod0 would make a big difference.
Narfs suggestion I am going with:
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* No, made few for couple of friends but I don't have them any more.

* Yup ;)