Difficult thing as one admin just said that it's ok to go spec in first round (or whatever exactly he said)
would be cool to get some new official statement about that one.
Just happened on server 2 couple of minutes ago: round 1, 7 guys of Grey Order in spec and suddenly they are all back at the same time, namely at the end of round one....probably they all have a watch when they take a break :/
I personnally am for forbidding that stuff. They block room for other players and can continue farming their multi...
see the new rules cry babys http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,27458.msg399794/boardseen.html#new
Flips multi acc ??
If your common sense is not working, here are some more specific guidelines. This is not an explicit list, common sense always overrides disputes. Do not come crying "it's not prohibited in the rules" if you invent a new creative way to be an idiot and get punished.
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,2606.0.html
Common sense means you don't want to lose your multi.
Yeah, i know you would report your mother if she would teamswitch, but it's mainly because you are educated this way. We are not, that's why you don't understand "us", it's deeply rooted into our culture.
Also Flips, it's the very old way to keep your multi, and very hard to track as you join just for 1-3 seconds then join spectator again, it's especially effective if you don't do it at the start of the round, but between round start and first tick. Best way to track it would be coding something to show it on the logs.
Common sense means you don't want to lose your multi. What the actual fuck? You really misunderstand common sense then.
And saying exploiting and cheating is deeply routed in your culture doesn't make you argument any better you know...
So, until this shows in the logs you guys (Well, not everyone of GO, there are many guys with actual knowledge of common sense, i guess) you just keep doing so?
Okay, it's a discussion now (Well, not that i didnt expect that, but i still gave it a try) and i don't want to get another thousand warnings for Off-topic-posts, i will change the thread-title and really appreciate if the admins switch it to the general discussion or Randomdudes thread specifically. Sry about that.
joining spec resets multiplier to x1 though
joining spec resets multiplier to x1 though
Okay, so now that exploiting the balance by just switching the team is oldschool and probably solved next patch there is a new (Well, actually it is old, too) method to keep the multiplier going: Try to join the "right" team once and if you fail join Spec (Because everyone is obviously pissing/smoking/taking a shit/taking the dog for a walk/fapping/preparing for a zombie-apocalypse) until the last second of the first round - because later there is a chance to be on the "wrong" team - and then join in although you are not really afk. So blocking a spot on the server, kinda. I put that question mark in the topic because i want to hear the opinions of some admins about this matter. I still think that this is just another way of exploiting to keep the beloved multiplier and should be punishable and honestly don't know how it could be prevented by a new patch, so it will be probably the new "thing" for any X-greedy guys out there.
Anyway, carpiediem did it exactly this way and sadly changed the team while doing so:
http://imgur.com/gd4RW
http://imgur.com/CmUJ5
So, the 2nd screenshot is kinda messed up, i know. Timer is already set to the next round, people are already switched in the chat, but i lagged so hard i could still see the scoreboard from the last round and took a screenshot of it. But if you take a look at the playerlist (Especially the clan-players) and the money i made you can still believe me, that this is the scoreboard of the same round.
Anyway, this thread is not mainly about the ban-request, so feel free to push it to any other section of the forums, but since it could be one i thought i still put it here. Or take it to PMs and i will close it. I just wanted to address as many admins as possible.
The first screen shows 5:30, and the second 6:00. The second screeshot is the screenie of new round of this map.
Read the whole post, please and look carefully at the screenshots. Scoreboard can't be the one of the 2nd round.
So the screenshots shows me jumping from attack to defence?
Sorry for hopping in, but just want to get facts straight before i burn that witch. Anyways, if you stay in spec for the whole duration of one round, you do not get any XP, right?
I understand that staying in specs for first round might seem a little weird and such, especially when there is way more elegant way to keep your multi even in bad team, if you are willing to miss out first round XPwise. For instance, when sitting on x5 and needing to lvl up so so much, i just do not spawn on first round, i let the equipment screen on till 6:00, then press done. I do not spawn, i do not lose/gain multi depending on outcome of the match, and i am not in spectator. This is okay? :)
Common sense means you don't want to lose your multi.
Yeah, i know you would report your mother if she would teamswitch, but it's mainly because you are educated this way. We are not, that's why you don't understand "us", it's deeply rooted into our culture.
Ah, now i see, that is indeed a very shady behavior. I will keep an eye out for those aswell, fraps ready :))
EDIT: If we get to defence in 1st round, we just go spec. Then, when the round ends, the bannerbalance moves us to correct team. The screenshot doesn't show anything wrong, aganist rules I think.
I would like to have a statement of a chief here, cause this exactly is what I would consider as exploiting, bypassing the autobalance or whatever. The game chooses a team for you and you say "no I don't want to cause I might lose" so you resist fighting and go spec again....
Interestingly enough most of these exploiter drama usually contains several GO members, coincidence?
I know it isn't the same, but as I wrote, getting into a team and then going spec cause you don't like that one is exploiting, too, --> in my opinion <-- that's why I would like to have a statement from a dev/admin on that one. Forbidding to join, spec, join, spec is one thing, but allowing to join and then spec when you don't like the choice is quite ridiculous so we could also allow the rest :rolleyes:
Nah, it's also Teutonics, Druzhina and Strangers.
Are you saying cheating and lying is part of your culture?
I think Ozin will fix this situation soon.
Yeah, that is common sense, in game where xp, gold and fun matters keeping the first two and taking a break (also fun) is smarter than losing multi then playing on x1.
Common sense means that if you don't want to spoil other people joy, go to spec if you don't want to lose your multi.
I told you that you can't get it. It was about not reporting close persons, it's kind of loyalty you don't have and will not have. It have nothing to do with cheating and exploiting - this one is personal trait and just as widespread in your culture, if not more.
Nobody is saying we are doing it, i am just saying that it's effective way to exploit and i showed how to do it and how to possibly stop it. Then you accuse most members of our clan. Mature. Not.
Not if you just choose faction and don't click on your name (pressing tab to check scoreboards for your name to find out in what team you are).
Yeah, that is common sense, in game where xp, gold and fun matters...blabla...
Common sense means that if you don't want to spoil other people joy...blabla...
Happened every round yesterday, it's ridiculous. Hopefully Ozin will do something about bannerbalance in first round soon so that such things won't be necessary for any poor bugger anymore who has a really big prolbme to fight against his clanmates for once :cry:happened every day..
Everybody knows what they do.... I find it amusing that there are still people surprised by something thats been going for....ever?
It's part of their culture, apparently XD. Most ridiculous bullshit I ever heard.
No, Lech, it's not a matter of "selling your own mother" is a part of Guisbert's culture, you moronic piece of shit. It's a matter of bypassing autobalance to tip the odds in your favour, i.e exploiting, i.e cheating. The first round of siege sucks for everyone, but it's also the round after which the fucking autobalance kicks in. Are you saying cheating and lying is part of your culture?
Fucking idiot, covering for your cheating bastard cunt friends while you knew perfectly well what they were doing isn't noble. I can totally see how breaking the rules for tribal and feudal concerns might be a part of your culture though, if this is really the retarded perverse take on ethics you adhere to.
How can you even fucking say this? I can take this shit back a fucking year nearly, when Lech and GDaemon were hacking accounts to steal looms, yeh that's not spoiling others fun?
Stop bullying just GO! As i said, since T, STR and DRZ are taking the same banner as GO they started doing that shit excessively, too. So let's be fair (lol) and let them have a piece of the hate-cake as well!
It's all about not reporting cheating of mates and despising informants.
It's all about not reporting cheating of mates and despising informants.
please give the grey order hunter fips freetime he needs more rl he thinks this game is a part of his life
Of course it is a part of my life, if it wouldn't be i would not play it. -_-
Retarded argument is retarded.
Can you get it through your stupid thick little skull that lying to cover the crimes of someone just because you like them or are part of your little group IS ETHICALLY THE SAME THING as if you were doing the crime yourself? It's called being an accomplice, you godamn MORON. It's not noble and it's not admirable. If you say it's part of your culture, then yes, cheating and lying is part of your culture. Glorifying scum and criminal groups is part of your culture. Do I believe that? No, I just think you, Lech, are an idiot, and shouldn't ever have brought your "culture" into it.
Show me where i lied about it or covered someone first, or gtfo. You can't as i don't do such things. So it's actually you who are stupid little fuck who can't use his brain.
I know your culture glorify informants, and i am happy mine don't.
What is wrong with you? You just spent the entire thread saying about how fucking proud you are your "culture" defends criminals, because they're YOUR criminals. Your word can't be trusted, because it's clear you would lie your ass off to defend anyone from your clan, anyone you are allied to, anyone who is your buddy, even if they were to hack the database, or steal looms, or dual account, or exploit. Your words in this thread are proof of that, you nepotism-worshipping stupid cunt.
Also, show me where i lied. You just accused me of lies, in most cultures you have to show some proof to do so. You have none. So you are just trying to blackmail me. Nothing new, youinternet tough guypiece of shit with no honor.
There is huge difference between defending criminals and going informant way. I know that you are unable to spot it as you are too narrow minded. There are other ways to deal with abuses than reporting. Nepotism in private-sphere is nothing wrong.
-Refusing to report people in your clan when they cheat= honorable and good
-People in your clan cheat= do not report them to admins
-Get accused of lying to defend cheaters in your clan= Why I nevah! How dare you bismirch my honor?!
You're just trying to have your cake and eat it too. Either stand by your retarded concept of honour and accept that it leads to lying to cover cheating of your friends, or don't.
Explain it to me then. What is the difference between not reporting a crime you know to have been commited, and lying to cover a crime? Even in your own criminal justice system, it's called being an ACCOMPLICE. Do you know what that means, or do you want me to explain it to you?
-true, if i have problems with it i speak to the person who do it
-true, ditto
-true, there is huge difference between lying to defend someone and refusing to report
-true, if i have problems with it i speak to the person who do it
-true, ditto
-true, there is huge difference between lying to defend someone and refusing to report
My friends are responsible for themselves, if they want to get banned it's their and only their choice.
Difference is huge, if you can't see that lying is morally unacceptable, on the other hand first talking with the person you have problem with and only when it fail report him is the way to go.
Accomplice is reserved for people who help committing the crime, i don't.
Moreover, there is also law that allow us to not speak when close person is involved.
Not reporting someone you witness commiting "crimes" is being his accomplice, period. It works like that in every law system I know of.
Not reporting your friends when they do such things is exactly what means you don't consider them responsible for what they do. Being responsible of one's behavior is facing the consequences.
If you have problems with it...right, but if it benefits the entire clan, and the only victims are people you don't give a shit about and aren't covered by this sacred veil of secrecy (i.e everyone who isn't part of your clan, who isn't an ally, who isn't a friend) why would you have a problem with it? What's the incentive for"clean" clan members to try and keep the others from cheating? I don't see any. The only incentive is to keep others from finding out. You're basically arguing for self-policing of clans. You're an idiot.Victims ? I stated my thoughts over banner balance in first round, and they are only victims because design team didn't fixed door bug yet. Both team would have good chances to win first round otherwise as the teams are balanced even after those exploits. If i have problem, i talk about it, sometimes i do, but i won't share why. There are others incentives too. I am arguing for individual responsibility, and what clan does is in hands of the leaders of the clan.
Let's assume for just one second that your many previous bans were totally unjust and not a result of your self-justified douchebaggery. What about being an ACCESSORY to a crime? Does that ring a fucking bell?
Victims ? I stated my thoughts over banner balance in first round, and they are only victims because design team didn't fixed door bug yet. Both team would have good chances to win first round otherwise as the teams are balanced even after those exploits. If i have problem, i talk about it, sometimes i do, but i won't share why. There are others incentives too. I am arguing for individual responsibility, and what clan does is in hands of the leaders of the clan.
Yes, accessory (post crime one, not reporting to authority only) is correct term. It's not a bad thing, rather neutral one.
The victims in this case is anyone who doesn't do the exact same thing as you, i.e every single other player in the server, not to mention the fucked up balance created for every subsequent round. Like I said before, first round sucks for everyone. Should everyone just stay in spec for 10 minutes? Not, they play it out. It's the way siege is atm, it's fucked and devs haven't managed to repair it yet. Yet they made the rule very, very clear. Bypassing the autobalance for whatever reason is exploiting. It is unfair to all the other players in the same situation who don't do it. I'm not even going to go into the multiaccounting or the other things your clan has been accused of, or the people who already got banned for it.How exactly they are victims in this case ? Because they get same amount and quality of other players instead of my clanmates anyway. Balance for every subsequent round stay the same with every type of exploit. People with x3/x4/x5 can consider staying in specs for 6 minutes tops, usually less.
What are these other incentives in your stupid philosophy of sectarian self-policing. Tell me about them. You can't argue for individual responsability and at the same time say the only authority for enforcing cRPG rules anyone should recognize is their clan leader and their friends. That's the opposite of individual responsability. And I'd love to see you try using the defence that being accessory to a crime is not a bad thing, just neutral, in a court of law.
We know some people in this game don't like to follow rules or just try to abuse/trick every gamemechanic they can find.
Stop writing crap mister, it's not only those guys. Just saw a DenBitre getting banned for abusing bannerbalance :rolleyes:
Any prohbblem agansit heavy drinkezrs?'? hm?
I am just afraid to get called a chocolate chip cookie, because there actually is a geographical pattern =(
And don't forget that new german clan Royalknights, 3 or 4 of them got banned for it, too. And they are just the ones that got caught =Pwe prefer to fight in a group so we wait until the end of the round so we can play together normally it isnt against the rules but some special admins are thinking sth different
Don't drink and post, dude xD