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cRPG => Ban/Unban Requests => Closed Requests => Topic started by: Olwen on March 03, 2011, 08:24:05 pm

Title: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: Olwen on March 03, 2011, 08:24:05 pm
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i tked a guy who teambumped me and i was kicked straight without any word by Lilith/nuffen

i rejoined and i was muted several times by Lilith/Nuffen, i admit that i told him that he was a son of a bitch, still not worth 2 mutes

i rejoined again and i rushed to Lilith/Nuffen's spawn while avoiding his teammates and i killed him then he banned me

I refuse his apologies as he didn't ask for my apologies before kicking me

I ask devs to remove his admin rights.
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: Casimir on March 03, 2011, 08:25:53 pm
+1


I also add the suggestion i should receive cake and a hat.
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: nuffen on March 03, 2011, 08:26:26 pm
Son of a bitch? I counted at least 10 lines of threats and insults, which I didnt even reply to.
You did three insults that you normally get banned for. In this perspective..

I unbanned you 30 sec after I saw the screenshot, and I apologised.
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: Olwen on March 03, 2011, 08:27:33 pm
i didn't, i told you that you'd hear about me, and you do, it's a fact, not a threat
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: AngryScotsman on March 03, 2011, 08:28:06 pm
Son of a bitch? I counted at least 10 lines of threats and insults, which I didnt even reply to.
You did three insults that you normally get banned for. In this perspective..

I unbanned you 30 sec after I saw the screenshot, and I apologised.

Sound's awfully familiar.
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: Paul on March 03, 2011, 08:28:22 pm
Ban seems justified. Keeping an eye on Olwen from now on.
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: Byrdi on March 03, 2011, 08:29:50 pm
Olwen is speaking the truth... even though he deserved the kicks...
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: Leiknir on March 03, 2011, 08:33:11 pm
Intentional teamkill, you even admitt it was intentional, and only a kick? You got lucky there that no other admin was there/faster and would have just banned you straight away. Why do you want a warning? You teamkilled on purpose, you admitt it. "He Olwen, I know its hard, but please dont teamkill on purpose?"

This is the crap some admins have to deal with, play with the rules, or play on some other server.

The ban you got was a mistake (as it was too late for the real teamkill), and got removed as soon as proof showing otherwise turned up, no Idea why the drama here.
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: Olwen on March 03, 2011, 08:37:17 pm
so because he said it was mistake nothing happens ? he still can kick, mute and ban me when he feels like he wants to ? give me admin rights, i'll ban him and then i'll say sorry it was a mistake, and everything will be fine ? it was obviously intentionally, or maybe he can't make the difference between red and green ? very close colours
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: AngryScotsman on March 03, 2011, 08:39:49 pm
Intentional teamkill, you even admitt it was intentional, and only a kick? You got lucky there that no other admin was there/faster and would have just banned you straight away. Why do you want a warning? You teamkilled on purpose, you admitt it. "He Olwen, I know its hard, but please dont teamkill on purpose?"

This is the crap some admins have to deal with, play with the rules, or play on some other server.

The ban you got was a mistake (as it was too late for the real teamkill), and got removed as soon as proof showing otherwise turned up, no Idea why the drama here.

Is this as opposed to stating clearly that it wasn't intentional? And yet the admins totally ignore that fact anyway?

Oh wait, sorry. "Common sense."
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: LordBerenger on March 03, 2011, 08:40:43 pm
(insert random unfair treatment and abuse that admins do from my side and some kewl comments as well)
(insert some smart ass comments from admins and some threats about serial key banning me like Balton)
(insert some fanboys praising admins)
(insert Olwen making a comeback argument)
(insert Merc friend protecting Olwens evidence)
(insert lillith coming up with more bs)

Okay now i spoiled the future that could happen with this thread so close it.
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: Xant on March 03, 2011, 08:41:05 pm
Can't ban another admin, otherwise it's a good plan!
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: Leiknir on March 03, 2011, 08:42:45 pm
He kicked your for intentional teamkilling, I would have banned you there already.
He muted you for insulting him because you think the rules of the servers don't apply to you.
You rejoin the server to avoid the mute, keep insulting him.

Then you kill him at the start of the round, rushed trough the whole map just to get him at spawn. The text is red in both cases, though. He banned you, as he assumed you just kept raging, teamkilling and playing your "LOLWEN IS UNBANNABLE"-card.

Fuck no, some human made a mistake! You should realy calm down here


(I love how the whole "rules-dont-apply-to-me"-brigade managed to find this thread in a matter of seconds)
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: Olwen on March 03, 2011, 08:45:25 pm
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You rejoin the server to avoid the mute, keep insulting him.

i didn't trashtalk him second time

so he is an admin and he can do whatever he wants and disappointing people and when someone has the balls to complain he can just say sorry it was a mistake ? what if it was anybody else who can't draw lights on the facts ? you get banned by a guy because he has problems with you and you just should sit here and wait that it ends ? or apologising or whatever ? i told him he was wrong, he said i was lying, what if i didn't take the time to take a screen of the logs ? this guys is a pain for crpg community, he doesn't deserve to be an admin

if we do mistakes we are kicked, if we taunt people who have powers we get banned, if we complain we get muted, if admins do mistakes they just can apology ? no way
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: Kalam on March 03, 2011, 08:47:35 pm
Your evidence would be self-incriminating on this side of the pond, and rightly so.
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: AngryScotsman on March 03, 2011, 08:48:30 pm
i didn't trashtalk him second time

so he is an admin and he can do whatever he wants and disappointing people and when someone has the balls to complain he can just say sorry it was a mistake ? what if it was anybody else who can't draw lights on the facts ? you get banned by a guy because he has problems with you and you just should sit here and wait that it ends ? or apologising or whatever ? i told him he was wrong, he said i was lying, what if i didn't take the time to take a screen of the logs ? this guys is a pain for crpg community, he doesn't deserve to be an admin

Totally playing devils advocate here to point out how fucked up the admin system is, but one your clan mates himself (who is an admin) said that admins don't need evidence. Anyone with any idea about what unchecked power does will call bullshit on that.
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: Leiknir on March 03, 2011, 08:48:58 pm
He banned you because he thought you teamkilled him, given the prior history there, revenge threats and everything. And you said yourself, you rushed him, killed him a good time before the "battle", so it really looked like a revenge teamkill from afar.
There are server logs for exactly such reasons, when you forget to take your safety screenshot, you will always find an admin who can double check for you.

Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: AngryScotsman on March 03, 2011, 08:51:49 pm
He banned you because he thought you teamkilled him, given the prior history there, revenge threats and everything.
There are server logs for exactly such reasons, when you forget to take your safety screenshot, you will always find an admin who can double check for you.

And where's the admin who will double check for me Leiknir, or anyone? Any players word against an admin is worthless, not to mention this "get out of jail free card" bullshit policy of "admin's don't need evidence" and "common sense".

Let's not pretend the whole thing is impartial and fair now.
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: LordBerenger on March 03, 2011, 08:53:22 pm
So why should admins get special treatment?
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: nuffen on March 03, 2011, 08:53:53 pm
 SCotsman: stop bullshitting. You've clearly stated your not accepting the rules. You should be in your right to tk whoever you want whenever you want. As you dont accept the rules, we dont accept you as a player.
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: nuffen on March 03, 2011, 08:54:28 pm
So why should admins get special treatment?

Why are you defending tkers? Do you want to remove the part of the rules where intentional tk is forbidden?
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: Olwen on March 03, 2011, 08:54:57 pm
if we do mistakes we are kicked, if we taunt people who have powers we get banned, if we complain we get muted, if admins do mistakes they just can apology ? no way

Why are you defending tkers? Do you want to remove the part of the rules where intentional tk is forbidden?

there you go, complaining, get threatened by admins
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: Leiknir on March 03, 2011, 08:56:22 pm
there you go, complaining, get threatened by admins

Where is the threat? That admins have enough of the bullshit and just let the kindergarten be kindergarten?
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: AngryScotsman on March 03, 2011, 09:02:13 pm
SCotsman: stop bullshitting. You've clearly stated your not accepting the rules. You should be in your right to tk whoever you want whenever you want. As you dont accept the rules, we dont accept you as a player.

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You can't count.

Oh and "common sense" tells you that at the end of the round means probably unintentional. I wonder how you'll bend the rules this time.

Notice how Mr Awesome, at the time of the incident that spiralled out of control to my banning, who is a complete third party to the incident, applied his "common sense" as well.
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: LordBerenger on March 03, 2011, 09:04:04 pm
I never openly defended tk'ers.

Silly me. I should have know that you love to act as ''Mr Knowitall''.

Shouldn't except more than that.
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: Olwen on March 03, 2011, 09:04:48 pm
Where is the threat? That admins have enough of the bullshit and just let the kindergarten be kindergarten?

don't know how to read quotes ? try again
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: nuffen on March 03, 2011, 09:07:48 pm
I never openly defended tk'ers.

Silly me. I should have know that you love to act as ''Mr Knowitall''.

Shouldn't except more than that.

No, you just openly defend them from being banned. Im an abuser in your eyes every time I ban someone who tk intentionally. Even if he openly admits it. ITs not me you got a problem with, its the rules.
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: AngryScotsman on March 03, 2011, 09:10:10 pm
No, you just openly defend them from being banned. Im an abuser in your eyes every time I ban someone who tk intentionally. Even if he openly admits it. ITs not me you got a problem with, its the rules.

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It's about the rules is it?
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: LordBerenger on March 03, 2011, 09:15:26 pm
Sure it actually is the rules i have problem with. +1 for that Lillith.

But hmm to be more specific which rules could it possibly be? Hmm?  :)

Could it perhaps be the rules that ''The Great Lillith'' comes up with all by himself?

Yeah it just got to be those rules. Eh Lillith?  :wink:

Not in this case however. This is just some classic abuse. Just wanted to answer your intelligent question.


Now keep going with typing bs to poor Olwen. Don't let me interfere anymore.
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: nuffen on March 03, 2011, 09:16:56 pm
Im getting tired of this bullshit. I'm trying to help the communicty with enforcing the rules so people dont go on tking and other bullshit. This to let the majority enjoy the game without getting harassed by a small minority of raging trolls.
This Im doing on my own spare time, and Im using a lot of my playtime to do this. Im not getting paid you know. Im using a lot of time to make sure people get fair threatment, but some people, like olwen and scotsman insist on not having to follow the rules. Im not gonna waste more time on shit like this, and Im gonna ignore stupid discussions like this.

PS: If someone got SERIOUS feedback on my admining, please send me a pm.
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: Olwen on March 03, 2011, 09:21:16 pm
follow the main lines of the thread guys,

half of the community according to the polls want lilith's rights to be removed ( i regret not voting there )

he did a lot of mistakes even when several admins told him he was wrong, ( ptx for scotsman, most of the admins for me for example )

kicking me then muting me then banning me is a coincidence that's hard for me to believe, just saying " i apology " whereas he doesn't give any chances to people he bans before banning them, and i think his ban was clearly intentional on me

there's no reason left that would make him deserving admin rights

you play the victim card lilith, but it's kinda stupid to just say that because you do it on your free time without being paid you should keep your rights, i didn't apply as admin because i knew i wouldn't be fair with people but it'd give me more advantages than problems to be an admin
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: AngryScotsman on March 03, 2011, 09:22:25 pm
Im getting tired of this bullshit. I'm trying to help the communicty with enforcing the rules so people dont go on tking and other bullshit. This to let the majority enjoy the game without getting harassed by a small minority of raging trolls.
This Im doing on my own spare time, and Im using a lot of my playtime to do this. Im not getting paid you know. Im using a lot of time to make sure people get fair threatment, but some people, like olwen and scotsman insist on not having to follow the rules. Im not gonna waste more time on shit like this, and Im gonna ignore stupid discussions like this.

PS: If someone got SERIOUS feedback on my admining, please send me a pm.

I have serious feedback for your admining, and I will publicly state it so that you can't weasel out of it.

You lack rationality.
You are inconsistent.
You bend rules on the fly.
You selectively ignore blatant evidence against you.
You lie.

Now that I've shown some hard evidence, you are playing the victim card.

"I'm just an honest admin guv', honest and hard working!"
Title: Re: No nomination, just the evidence against Lilith/Nuffen
Post by: LordBerenger on March 03, 2011, 09:23:23 pm
Rejoice fellow truthseekers. Less lies to handle now. One small step for justice.

Oh and lillith fanboys don't forget to post some ''how sorry you feel for lillith'' or ''how much of a troll we are''.