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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Realism Discussion => Topic started by: Ptolemy on February 29, 2012, 05:18:35 am
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So, I got to thinking that agility should reduce fall damage, if only by a little bit, I propose that for every 1 point in agility 1% of fall damage is negated, my reasoning behind why this should happen at all and the figure I've stated goes thusly:
A character's stats are supposed to reflect a lifetime's worth of training towards those skills. So a high agility character has done a lot of work in regards to aspects relating to agility - running, jumping, landing, flexibility (which also leads me to wonder if the jump height should be more for agi characters but that's a topic for another thread). We already see this effect in the running speed of agi characters, but would it not stand to reason that a character who's learned to run quickly would also have learned how to fall from slightly higher places without taking as much damage as those who's spent all day lifting weights in the gym?
Anyone who's studied gymnastics or martial arts at all will know that one of the earliest things you learn to do is how to take a fall, especially in gymnastics since you tend to fall from greater heights than with martial arts. While I'm not suggesting that in the middle ages (or whatever time period this is supposed to be set) that we had things like parkour (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRGJ_uS9jnY"), at least we should give them credit for their years of hard work and not have them land in the same way that a bucket of bolts would do, no?
So, my reasoning behind a 1% per agility point reduction? Simple really, firstly that 1% is an easy number to implement. Secondly that even the biggest agi-whore with 3/39 would only have a 39% damage reduction from any fall - and any drop that is large enough to kill an agi whore isn't going to be massively effected by losing 39% of it's damage - maybe they would survive where they wouldn't have before, but I rather doubt that after taking a large fall which would have (pre-adjustments) killed them, any agi-whore is going to be in a position to take more than one (maybe two) hits from even the weakest character.
So there it is, there's my proposal. Constructive criticism encouraged.
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Good idea, but we'd have to make some adjustments.
For example, almost everyone in the game has at least 12 agi...so that would mean they all get 12% reduction in fall damage, nerfing fall damage all around.
So, I suggest making all points of agility over 12 get 1% reduction in fall damage, or something like that. So that way someone with 15 agi gets 3% reduction in fall damage, but someone with 21 agi gets 9% reduction in fall damage. If you have 12 agi or 3 agi, fall damage is the same.
This would help balance the game because having more points in agi would provide a very slight passive bonus (like str does already). Plus it would make things more interesting, even if only by a little bit.
Since this would help balance, and "realism" is a secondary reason (that doesn't hold much weight with the devs or majority of players) you might want to consider re-posting this capital idea in the balance section. :)
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I think the fall damage from high up is pretty good, but I think the threshold between no/little damage from a fall and almost all of your health is too small of a window.
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I like this, perhaps a similar thing could be done with the speed reduction of running up hills. Agility based players can get seriously ganked on the more hilly maps. Hell, I'd like to see this reduced for everyone.
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Ninjas can fall safely to the ground without being injure...the way of ninja
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I actually feel that fall damage should go from not doing much damage, say 1/4 of your bar straight to effectively killing you. Mostly since when you land on your feet you go from pulling a muscle or spraining an ankle straight to crippling damage (broken bones, torn ligaments).
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I think the fall damage from high up is pretty good, but I think the threshold between no/little damage from a fall and almost all of your health is too small of a window.
This. I don't even think this only belongs in the realism board, but the Game Balance Discussion one even. Fall damage in Native was wacky, falling all the way out of a castle and losing maybe ten percent of your health, and that was rightfully changed. However small falls, 10 feet (about 3 meters), do waaaay too much damage in cRPG, in my opinion.
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This. I don't even think this only belongs in the realism board, but the Game Balance Discussion one even. Fall damage in Native was wacky, falling all the way out of a castle and losing maybe ten percent of your health, and that was rightfully changed. However small falls, 10 feet (about 3 meters), do waaaay too much damage in cRPG, in my opinion.
I used to jump from around 5 meters to concrete and didn't get injured at all in real life.
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It depends. I broke my foot jumping from a 10 foot fall (barefoot) on concrete, I had done it 100 times before without issue. Also if you have an extra 40-80lbs on you when you fall it's going to be more pressure on your joints.
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It depends. I broke my foot jumping from a 10 foot fall (barefoot) on concrete, I had done it 100 times before without issue. Also if you have an extra 40-80lbs on you when you fall it's going to be more pressure on your joints.
You can never have enough pressure on your joints.
Eh smoking baby?
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lol i see what you did there. and yes, you can. if you roll a j too tight it won't hit...stick with blunts and you won't have to worry about burning up in 2 mins.
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What really stinks is jumping off a bridge into a river only to die from fall damage!
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Buff Katana
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What really stinks is jumping off a bridge into a river only to die from fall damage!
What also stinks is that if you jump off a tower and land on top of a dude, the other dude walks away unscathed.
I want knockdown and heavy blunt damage whenever I land on someone. Buff my flying attempt shenanigans!
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What also stinks is that if you jump off a tower and land on top of a dude, the other dude walks away unscathed.
I want knockdown and heavy blunt damage whenever I land on someone. Buff my flying attempt shenanigans!
YES! Torpedo Jumper class!
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can we lower horse fall damage? if you jump with a horse and you land even slightly lower than you started, on an unarmored horse, you take alot of damage.
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How about this.
12-18 gives you1% 18-21 2% 21-30 3% 30-39 4%
And over 21 agi you get a 50% chance of performing a break fall after falling from a height that would kill you. The break fall reduces damage by 90% but its like being horse bumped to the ground. So people can jacki chan of crazy shit.
Also with the break fall thing it would probably make a lot of sense to have an equipment weight limit. Meaning that you once you had say more than 10 arbitrary weight units of poo it didn't work. So only guys in padded jacks with light could get away with throwing them selves around like maniacs.
It would be pretty spectacular to see some dude throw himself off the ramparts at tropical and break fall into the ground lol