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Title: War of the roses.....just a cool video showing the game I found :)
Post by: Blade on February 27, 2012, 02:30:24 am
http://youtu.be/rnkWYr3BNYk enjoy  :wink:
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Post by: Leshma on February 27, 2012, 02:31:32 am
That looks like shit.
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Post by: Blade on February 27, 2012, 02:32:29 am
Late summer 2012 so they still have some time to work on it
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Post by: Digglez on February 27, 2012, 02:35:32 am
horrible fucking video. virtually all talking lecture style.  first foreign dude shouldnt even be allowed to talk for company his english is so bad.  Write a script for fucks sake.


did anyone else see the Monty Python stuff at 00:44 ? heh, bloody peasant!
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Post by: Leshma on February 27, 2012, 02:35:42 am
Until I see major animation improvement it stays shit. And I've already seen that video, this is like 4th thread about that particular game.
Title: Re: War of the roses.....just a cool video showing the game I found :)
Post by: Blade on February 27, 2012, 02:38:22 am
That's great if you have seen it, but some others have not.  :rolleyes:
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Post by: Christo on February 27, 2012, 02:40:53 am
Until I see major animation improvement it stays shit. And I've already seen that video, this is like 4th thread about that particular game.

Have to agree with Leshma on both points.

Also, that "breathing" animation is way over the top.
Our Warband characters do the same too, but this is just too intense.

I hope things like that will get sorted.
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on February 27, 2012, 02:44:22 am
from youtube comments: "this guy is breathing like a mad man ! When I breathe, I don't move my shoulders up and down."

was thinking the same thing.  and it doesn't show me anything in game that i'd be interested in seeing.  And frankly the talk about perks for multiplayer sounds horrible.  Obviously I'll reserve final judgement until I've seen reviews and decided to play it or not.
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Post by: Christo on February 27, 2012, 02:48:12 am
And frankly the talk about perks for multiplayer sounds horrible.  Obviously I'll reserve final judgement until I've seen reviews and decided to play it or not.

Indeed.
That "perk system" can make or break the game.

It's quite easy to predict which one's going to happen tbh.
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Post by: Butan on February 27, 2012, 02:52:33 am
Its looking better than cRPG.

Will def check this game out.
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Post by: Blade on February 27, 2012, 03:04:53 am
Perks.....this is turning into a game of mw3  :cry:
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Post by: Turboflex on February 27, 2012, 03:22:09 am
is there a multiplay gameplay video?
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Post by: ulfardarri on February 27, 2012, 03:27:36 am
This will be awesome why are people crying about this ? :evil: ?
Good textures for alpha fighting looks good cutomizeable helmets and armor not some retarted perks that make you invincable  :P
In mw you are invincable there you get some - from your perks and some +
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Post by: Stabby_Dave on February 27, 2012, 03:37:15 am
Indeed.
That "perk system" can make or break the game.

It's quite easy to predict which one's going to happen tbh.

Why the negativity. You've seen nothing solid from this game at all and its in pre-alpha stage. From what Ive read and saw so far it could be a very very good game. Yes, the work perk has associations with COD but that doesnt mean this will be anything like it at all. You could call all the CRPG skills 'perks' but that doesnt change anything except the title.

What im trying to say is why try and shit all over a game that could be just as awesome as warband, which we all love and have put many hours into. I for one am genuinely excited about this game and will probably have to buy a new PC just to play it.
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Post by: Christo on February 27, 2012, 03:45:46 am
Why the negativity. You've seen nothing solid from this game at all and its in pre-alpha stage. From what Ive read and saw so far it could be a very very good game. Yes, the work perk has associations with COD but that doesnt mean this will be anything like it at all. You could call all the CRPG skills 'perks' but that doesnt change anything except the title.

What im trying to say is why try and shit all over a game that could be just as awesome as warband, which we all love and have put many hours into. I for one am genuinely excited about this game and will probably have to buy a new PC just to play it.

Going to quote myself here;

I hope things like that will get sorted.

That's not really negative, right?  :)
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Post by: John on February 27, 2012, 06:54:02 am
If I'd decided whether or not to play Mount and Blade based on the quality of its combat animations during beta...
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Post by: Jacko on February 27, 2012, 08:17:00 am
The old 10 page thread wasn't enough? http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,13876.0.html
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Post by: HarunYahya on February 27, 2012, 10:02:18 am
That looks like shit.
This i can agree without hesitation.
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Post by: Stabby_Dave on February 27, 2012, 02:19:25 pm
If I'd decided whether or not to play Mount and Blade based on the quality of its combat animations during beta...
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Post by: Herkkutatti on February 27, 2012, 02:28:19 pm
That looks like shit.
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Post by: Apsod on February 28, 2012, 03:50:40 pm
I thought "Hey, this might be fun!", but then they said that you can hold the attack to do more damage. That just fucks up MP combat in my opinion.
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Post by: Leshma on February 28, 2012, 03:52:54 pm
And that's different from Warband, how?
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Post by: ManOfWar on February 28, 2012, 03:54:34 pm
Last time I check holding your attack in warband does not increase the damage, it is just a way to get a hit
Title: Re: War of the roses.....just a cool video showing the game I found :)
Post by: Apsod on February 28, 2012, 04:21:00 pm
And that's different from Warband, how?
Yeah what ManOfWar said. Holding attacks in warband makes no difference from not holding them.
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Post by: [ptx] on February 28, 2012, 04:29:09 pm
Actually, it does increase the damage, at least slightly. There is a sweetspot of holding time for maximum damage even.
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Post by: Kato on February 28, 2012, 04:39:51 pm
Yeah what ManOfWar said. Holding attacks in warband makes no difference from not holding them.

wrong

Code: [Select]
if hold_time >= 1.1:
    hold_bonus = 1.2
elif hold_time >= 0.6:
    hold_bonus = (1.1 - hold_time) * 0.6 + 1.2
elif hold_time >= 0.5:
    hold_bonus = 1.5
else:
    hold_bonus = hold_time + 1.0

raw_damage = weapon_damage * (max(1.0, min(hold_bonus, 2.0)) * 0.5 + 0.5)

In reality 25% bonus damage for holding attacks between 0.5 - 0.6s
Title: Re: War of the roses.....just a cool video showing the game I found :)
Post by: Thovex on February 28, 2012, 04:44:30 pm
wrong

Code: [Select]
if hold_time >= 1.1:
    hold_bonus = 1.2
elif hold_time >= 0.6:
    hold_bonus = (1.1 - hold_time) * 0.6 + 1.2
elif hold_time >= 0.5:
    hold_bonus = 1.5
else:
    hold_bonus = hold_time + 1.0

raw_damage = weapon_damage * (max(1.0, min(hold_bonus, 2.0)) * 0.5 + 0.5)

In reality 25% bonus damage for holding attacks between 0.5 - 0.6s

I always delay like half a second by standard, awesome.
Title: Re: War of the roses.....just a cool video showing the game I found :)
Post by: Apsod on February 28, 2012, 05:07:19 pm
wrong

Code: [Select]
if hold_time >= 1.1:
    hold_bonus = 1.2
elif hold_time >= 0.6:
    hold_bonus = (1.1 - hold_time) * 0.6 + 1.2
elif hold_time >= 0.5:
    hold_bonus = 1.5
else:
    hold_bonus = hold_time + 1.0

raw_damage = weapon_damage * (max(1.0, min(hold_bonus, 2.0)) * 0.5 + 0.5)

In reality 25% bonus damage for holding attacks between 0.5 - 0.6s
Whoa! I can`t believe I never found out about this. I guess I was wrong.

Anyways, the holding of attacks  in War of the roses seems to make much more difference compared to what it does in Warband.
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Post by: Vexus on February 28, 2012, 05:21:40 pm
Better so the combat won't be all about who hits first only.
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on February 28, 2012, 06:47:45 pm
this looks better than crpg.
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Post by: Oberyn on February 28, 2012, 07:27:02 pm
Gonna be pretty funny having warband players completely destroying any people new to the game mechanics at release.
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Post by: Christo on February 29, 2012, 02:38:27 am
Gonna be pretty funny having warband players completely destroying any people new to the game mechanics at release.

This.  :lol:

I might even buy it, if the final stuff will look better. I'm sure it will.

Lots of people will RQ that day, when some cRPG vets try it out.  :)
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Post by: Blade on February 29, 2012, 03:11:01 am
Hahahahahha that will be funny  :D
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Post by: ManOfWar on February 29, 2012, 03:02:19 pm
wrong

Code: [Select]
if hold_time >= 1.1:
    hold_bonus = 1.2
elif hold_time >= 0.6:
    hold_bonus = (1.1 - hold_time) * 0.6 + 1.2
elif hold_time >= 0.5:
    hold_bonus = 1.5
else:
    hold_bonus = hold_time + 1.0

raw_damage = weapon_damage * (max(1.0, min(hold_bonus, 2.0)) * 0.5 + 0.5)

In reality 25% bonus damage for holding attacks between 0.5 - 0.6s

O damn, I will have to keep that in mind
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Post by: marco1391 on February 29, 2012, 04:18:35 pm
wrong

Code: [Select]
if hold_time >= 1.1:
    hold_bonus = 1.2
elif hold_time >= 0.6:
    hold_bonus = (1.1 - hold_time) * 0.6 + 1.2
elif hold_time >= 0.5:
    hold_bonus = 1.5
else:
    hold_bonus = hold_time + 1.0

raw_damage = weapon_damage * (max(1.0, min(hold_bonus, 2.0)) * 0.5 + 0.5)

In reality 25% bonus damage for holding attacks between 0.5 - 0.6s
from the formula it's 50% bonus between 0.5 to 0.6 seconds decresing to 20% and not lowering anymore from 0.6 to 1.1 sec
(1.1-0.6)*0.5+1.2=0.3+1.2=150% real damage from 0.5 to 0.6 sec, that's the sweet spot(I also can remember that being discussed in the normal warband forum)
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Post by: Kato on February 29, 2012, 04:52:15 pm
raw_damage = weapon_damage * (clamp(hold_bonus, 1.0, 2.0) * 0.5 + 0.5)

You forgot this code line that follow main formula:  1.5*0.5+0.5 = 1.25
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Post by: Leesin on March 01, 2012, 03:22:26 am
Fatdicks isn't a bad developer, hopefully they can pull this off.
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Post by: marco1391 on March 11, 2012, 04:23:17 pm
raw_damage = weapon_damage * (clamp(hold_bonus, 1.0, 2.0) * 0.5 + 0.5)

You forgot this code line that follow main formula:  1.5*0.5+0.5 = 1.25
you're right it's totally my fault, I didn't see that at all
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Post by: Kafein on March 11, 2012, 05:18:02 pm
Gonna be pretty funny having warband players completely destroying any people new to the game mechanics at release.

Yep.

I think I'll buy this even if it's pretty bad, just to hear the lamentations of their women. At the moment it looks quite easy to play compared to Warband, the speed is close to cRPG.

I also expect a wave of "CHEATER !!!!111!!!!!!!1!!!!!" threads on the official forums.
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Post by: Kato on March 11, 2012, 05:39:53 pm
dont know if its already here.

long gameplay video:
http://www.gamespot.com/events/gdc-2012/video.html?sid=6365126&mode=embedded

not bad for pre-alpha, but not impressed either.
Net code look really bad with all people wrapping around each other, combat slow paced and sluggish.
Hope it will be a lot better and still look forward, but its nothing to worry about for taleworlds and M&B2. 
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Post by: Oberyn on March 11, 2012, 07:37:28 pm
Not sure if it's because the people playing suck, but it looks really arcadey. Can't say I'm a fan of the Borderlands type numbers indicating damage either...

"I've never seen a game where people run away from you as much". The lucky fool obviously never played warband or its mods.
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Post by: [ptx] on March 11, 2012, 11:24:45 pm
Wow, that is some really crap hit detection. And movement. I know it's pre-alpha and all, but still... That video made me lose a lot of interest in that game.
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Post by: Jacko on March 12, 2012, 12:48:27 am
God that looks horrible.
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Post by: Radament on March 12, 2012, 01:35:04 am
press e to lol , bendage , flying numbers , mmhhhh i hope they improve all the stuff. the only good thing i see is the graphic.
the rest seems age of chivalry to me.
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Post by: Christo on March 12, 2012, 02:47:51 am
Kinda disappointing, yes.

I hope they'll improve it until the release, though, I still see potential there.
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Post by: Vexus on March 12, 2012, 02:53:11 am
I kinda like the possibility on aiding an ally being executed saving his life, this promotes teamwork imo.

The problem is that from what I heard hp regens while not fighting and this kinda suck else it would be great.
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Post by: Logen on March 12, 2012, 03:16:03 am
I think I'll buy this even if it's pretty bad, just to hear the lamentations of their women.

Also they said that there will be no flying numbers in the release.
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Post by: cmp on March 12, 2012, 12:35:27 pm
Flying numbers or not, it's still a medieval COD. Doubt they will change that.
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Post by: Kafein on March 12, 2012, 01:18:04 pm
Looks like it's some sort of conquest mode, and that's a huge plus. Flying numbers will probably go away, which is nice, except for the "wtf how many hits you can take" problems.

I think however that given the system is extremely similar to m&b, they really are going to need a way to prevent the vets to make the newcomers RQ immediately.

Maybe a "Veteran mode", that would essentially be an handicap like less HP or less gold for equipment, but would give the player bragging rights like a star in the score ladder next to the nickname...

Or maybe separating player levels by matchmaking, but that's pretty bad.
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Post by: Vibe on March 12, 2012, 01:24:07 pm
dont know if its already here.

long gameplay video:
http://www.gamespot.com/events/gdc-2012/video.html?sid=6365126&mode=embedded

not bad for pre-alpha, but not impressed either.
Net code look really bad with all people wrapping around each other, combat slow paced and sluggish.
Hope it will be a lot better and still look forward, but its nothing to worry about for taleworlds and M&B2.

Well, this doesn't look very good.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on March 12, 2012, 02:01:16 pm
I wonder why they release such a video."hey look how shite our game looks, but remember its only pre-Alpha!"
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Post by: Gnjus on March 12, 2012, 02:05:20 pm
I wonder why they release such a video."hey look how shite our game looks, but remember its only pre-Alpha!"

(click to show/hide)
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Post by: Olwen on March 12, 2012, 02:08:02 pm
carebear game, all the hello kitty fans from crpg will play it, crpg will finally get rid of meow
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Post by: Leshma on March 12, 2012, 02:12:41 pm
My problem with this game (or with M&B2) is that I'm always striving for the better. I wanted to see better, more complex game than Warband, improvements on every field.

Same goes for every sequel, new game. If they can't make it better, they shouldn't make it at all.

More realistic approach with couple dozens of bugs would be something I would rather see than this polished turd...

In my book, realistic games are always better. That's why I'm hardcore PC gamer and love mods. Realism is fun for me, arcade and streamlined crap like Mass Effect (for example) simply isn't my cup of tea.
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Post by: Gnjus on March 12, 2012, 02:12:55 pm
carebear game, all the hello kitty fans from crpg will play it, crpg will finally get rid of meow

I highly doubt that we'll be so lucky to lose all the Meow's & Nuffen's to a game like this, I hope they reduce the gore and add some pinkish colors and maybe even unicorns.
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Post by: Leshma on March 12, 2012, 02:48:44 pm
Yeah we totally should get rid of normal and considerate people like Meow, that will certainly make this community better :rolleyes:
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on March 12, 2012, 02:53:04 pm
(click to show/hide)
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on March 12, 2012, 06:50:21 pm
I kinda like the possibility on aiding an ally being executed saving his life, this promotes teamwork imo.

The problem is that from what I heard hp regens while not fighting and this kinda suck else it would be great.

That sounds like a shitty feature.  Same with unlocking weapons and skills.  I don't want health to regen, if I want to play CoD or BF, I'll just go fucking buy CoD or BF...

Like I said, I'll have to wait and see, but so far it doesn't sound promising.
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Post by: Stabby_Dave on March 14, 2012, 02:34:07 am
Yeah we totally should get rid of normal and considerate people like Meow, that will certainly make this community better :rolleyes:

The only people that dislike Meow are the arseholes of the community.
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Post by: Tears of Destiny on March 14, 2012, 02:37:49 am
Nvm.