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Title: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: robert_namo on February 13, 2012, 09:15:48 pm
There are now 2 battle/siege servers located in Chicago.

NA community now fills up and NA1 barely gets half full.

2 siege servers just split the population even more. We don't need 2.

There is as many West Coast Players as there is East Coast.

Please consider making an unpopulated server to a West Coast server.

What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Jetsam on February 13, 2012, 09:19:09 pm
Chicago is central.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on February 13, 2012, 09:20:50 pm
I'd say yes, but the maps on the community server suck. Bunch of fucking counter strike-ass random buildings and shit bundle of sticksry.

No random plains. Which is the best map type ever, because I play cav. Though I enjoy the teamwork and just awesomeness of random plains.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: oohillac on February 13, 2012, 09:23:10 pm
West coast Canada would be sweeeeeeeeeeeeee
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eeeet!

Also, more cav maps. Because I play footman polearms, and you guys are all I want to fight!
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Smoothrich on February 13, 2012, 10:28:15 pm
there's no east coast server either

so pass

also apparently the official servers went down for a day or two so everyone migrated to community.  the pubbies will switch back as soon as the same thing happens to community and everyone will think community is dead too.   or perhaps things will eventually just become more balanced.

I haven't been playing cRPG too much due to hardware failures but when I do manage to get on community I am disheartened by the massive amount of inaccessible ranged camping the maps allow, i'd rather not play crpg then play camp the roof with xbow every map. 
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Nasturtium on February 13, 2012, 10:46:23 pm
I have been playing crpg from oregon for over a year, the last few patches have seen my ping drop from 120 down to 70. While the bad ping costs me in the k:d ratio, I still don't really think a further fragmentation of the small community is the solution.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Adrian on February 13, 2012, 11:34:44 pm
Being that I'm located in Cali I would have to of course say I want a West coast server. However, there isn't any actual east coast server yet either.

As far as I'm concerned the community server is much better than NA1. The only people crying are the cav whores who can't do anything else but easy mode lancer cav.

Community has way better maps, not just cav map after cav map like NA1. Also the community server is much more stable and IMO the admins are a lot better. NA1 just had a bunch of badmins who kicked only those they didn't like or care about, but always bending the rules for their friends. Long live community!

This is all coming from an outside party perspective being that I have no clan affiliation.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Huey Newton on February 14, 2012, 01:08:54 am
Lol west coast server?
Then me, Cyranule, Namo, KevinD, Darkkarma, and Serge would get low ping..and that would just be GG.

Keep them in chicago to make it fair for NA


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Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Huey Newton on February 14, 2012, 01:10:22 am
As far as I'm concerned the community server is much better than NA1. The only people crying are the cav whores who can't do anything else but easy mode lancer cav.

Ohai kesh didn't see you there
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on February 14, 2012, 01:13:45 am
Community, chicago.

Only one siege server.

NA 1 to San Fransisco.

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Cav is just as fun on tight maps and still really effective, screw the plains.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Brrrak on February 14, 2012, 01:41:56 am
I'd ask for an East Coast server, but...fuck it, I live in Maine, our pings never get below 30 even if we're connecting to a server next door :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Rikthor on February 14, 2012, 01:48:37 am
No thanks, it would make sense if there was an East Coast one but keeping them more central is preferable for everyone.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Chris_P_Bacon on February 14, 2012, 02:26:44 am
If there were 3 servers, having one east, one west, and one central would obviously be preferable. But with any less than 2 I think keeping them both central makes more sense.
Edit: Also a bigger playerbase
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Meow on February 14, 2012, 02:34:27 am
Honestly, when I connected the community servers I was under the impression that they would be hosted in Dallas and would offer a second location for the NA community.

Now i just feel like they are splitting the community, host mostly unpolished maps and try to monopolize the NA official position as ATS did before.

Not that i care too much but imo we do not need 6-8 servers in the same location but rather 2+2 in different locations.

Strat one should obviously be pretty central.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Miley on February 14, 2012, 02:37:52 am
Honestly, when I connected the community servers I was under the impression that they would be hosted in Dallas and would offer a second location for the NA community.

Now i just feel like they are splitting the community, host mostly unpolished maps and try to monopolize the NA official position as ATS did before.

Not that i care too much but imo we do not need 6-8 servers in the same location but rather 2+2 in different locations.

Strat one should obviously be pretty central.

They have better maps, which is why people went to them.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Meow on February 14, 2012, 02:46:23 am
Yeah, let's add the good ones then I say? :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Brrrak on February 14, 2012, 02:51:57 am
They have better maps, which is why people went to them.

[opinion][/opinion]

Forgot your tags there, Mirey.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Miley on February 14, 2012, 03:02:45 am
[opinion][/opinion]

Forgot your tags there, Mirey.

[sarcasm]Oh forgot everyone has said the maps are better and complained about the official ones, at least that I've seen. [/sarcasm]

My blocks actually work most of the time on Community servers, unlike on the Official...
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Punked on February 14, 2012, 03:03:43 am
I believe there should be a westcoast server... First off you have East coast players getting 30 - 40 ping in Chicago and us Westcoast players get a 75-90 ping there.

You call that central, I think not.

In my opinion a westcoast server would be nice... they have stronger hosting data bases :D Like Dallas :) 

On top of that, east coast players wouldn't have a problem with ping because since Dallas has a stronger hosting data bases then most states they should get no more then 60 ping :D unless you live out there in the woods with 4g and only allowed 10gigs of internet...

W00T Ryan Knows best. :D

Soo.... Plus one to Namo
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Brrrak on February 14, 2012, 03:10:44 am
[sarcasm]Oh forgot everyone has said the maps are better and complained about the official ones, at least that I've seen. [/sarcasm]

My blocks actually work most of the time on Community servers, unlike on the Official...

I've had the opposite experience with blocks.  But then again there's some issues with my net recently.

As for everyone?  I've only seen a very vocal group that hardly counts for the entire NA playerbase.  Personally, after playing on community, I desire the official servers more, simply because ladders were removed for a reason.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Meow on February 14, 2012, 03:22:02 am
Basically my whole point...
Maybe we should just have 3-6 servers in Dallas.
Then again Canadia might get a bad ping and i feel like our SA player base is rather small at the moment...
Not sure.
I'll try to get some IPs from the local data centers so we can figure out what's best for the players.
Right now i feel like we do not need more serves in the same location and the community serves might just be overkill for the NA community.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Silveredge on February 14, 2012, 03:22:18 am
Being in California I would love a West Coast server, however I think Texas rather than Chicago would be "fair".  Look at a map, Chicago is not by any means in the middle.

Texas.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Brrrak on February 14, 2012, 03:25:27 am
Put the server in Topeka.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Meow on February 14, 2012, 03:41:36 am
Well...my question would be if we can all agree that having 3-5 official servers is enough?
Obviously the NA Community map guys are doing a decent job, not reason not to have them supply the official map cycle.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: BADPLAYERold on February 14, 2012, 03:45:15 am
please don't move the server further west, i get bad enough ping as it is tia
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Renten on February 14, 2012, 03:57:03 am
West Coast players could always just get together and run their own community server through donations. Plus it'd get the maps you guys want.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Meow on February 14, 2012, 04:11:54 am
please don't move the server further west, i get bad enough ping as it is tia

You are still in GB though, right?

Yes, every community could host their own servers but we obviously need the best possible location for everyone.
In this case not more servers in the same location :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Voso on February 14, 2012, 04:18:41 am
West Coast would be great, lets just put it in California.  :P


Or Washington, I am good with that.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: oprah_winfrey on February 14, 2012, 04:25:47 am
Well...my question would be if we can all agree that having 3-5 official servers is enough?
Obviously the NA Community map guys are doing a decent job, not reason not to have them supply the official map cycle.

We asked shik to do that and I think maybe 2 or 3 were added. Also, keep in mind that a lot of the maps were made with the thought of ladders in battle.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Meow on February 14, 2012, 04:31:40 am
Well, fully syncing NA and EU while adding more maps sounds like way to go :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Sergee on February 14, 2012, 04:31:51 am
YES I WANT TO PING CRUTCH
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Malaclypse on February 14, 2012, 04:45:07 am
I'd be okay with an Official West Coast server, but would prefer a central one still be used for strat functions.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Miley on February 14, 2012, 04:52:08 am
I'd take a Dallas server. I'm closer to Chicago, yet get better ping in Dallas. Like 20 less...

And Artene, that is why I said the people who vocalized their opinion. Thank you keep reading.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Troyicide on February 14, 2012, 04:57:46 am
I'd take a Dallas server. I'm closer to Chicago, yet get better ping in Dallas. Like 20 less...

And Artene, that is why I said the people who vocalized their opinion. Thank you keep reading.
texas seems fair
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Kalam on February 14, 2012, 05:04:22 am
The official server also serves as a Strategus server. Europeans consist of the majority of that playerbase, and it's annoying for them to have to deal with the 180-300 (as opposed to 100-200) ping a west coast server would introduce. That's another argument against a switch, I believe.

Naturally, though, Texas sounds tasty. I'm about 3 hours away from Dallas. :P

I do feel that it's a need an unofficial server should fulfill, though.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Malaclypse on February 14, 2012, 05:06:38 am
Kansas server!
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Voso on February 14, 2012, 05:06:56 am
The official server also serves as a Strategus server. Europeans consist of the majority of that playerbase, and it's annoying for them to have to deal with the 180-300 (as opposed to 100-200) ping a west coast server would introduce. That's another argument against a switch, I believe.

Naturally, though, Texas sounds tasty. I'm about 3 hours away from Dallas. :P


Strat one should obviously be pretty central.


Not all have to be west coast. Just leave duel central.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Anal Bleeding on February 14, 2012, 05:08:34 am
keep it central, yo.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Brrrak on February 14, 2012, 05:15:15 am
Kansas server!

FUCK THESE FORUMS ARE RETARDED!


TOOOOO-PEEEEEE-KAAAAAA!
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Huey Newton on February 14, 2012, 05:59:34 am
Texas server would be nice.
I get 60-70 for texas servers as opposed to 75-95 in chi town  8-)

Or even a denver server  :P


or even a San Jose server :twisted:
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Sergee on February 14, 2012, 06:34:51 am
Yup we had a Texas it was awesomeeeeee
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Oggrinsky on February 14, 2012, 08:23:47 am
Yeah, I'd definitely prefer a Texas server. Chicago isn't exactly "central"... it's kind of east-midwest. When I lived in NYC this didn't bother me. But, go figure, I moved back out to Portland and my ping is now usually about 80-100 instead of the 40-70 I enjoyed while living on the east coast. So yeah, now it irks me that the "central" server isn't really central but in the east side of the midwest. It'd be awesome to crutch on some 10-30 ping like the midwesterners enjoy right now. I say yes to a west coast server. Texas would be acceptable as well.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Darkkarma on February 14, 2012, 08:42:32 am
Dallas, my dudes
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Ganner on February 14, 2012, 10:17:27 am
While a California server would be AWESOME for those of us here on the Best Coast, Texas servers would serve adequately.  When the servers used to be in Texas i would average between 30-40 ping, when it moved to Chicago, it jumped to 70-90 and sometimes over 100 when the servers are full.  Community seems worse for me because the connection is not as stable to the NA servers for some reason so the ping spikes are more severe.

TLDR: Bring back Texas hosting.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on February 14, 2012, 11:38:04 am
I'm a selfish pig and as such support a West Coast server, preferbly in LA. It would drop my ping and lower the jitter I get. But I'm only one person on the other side of the world cursing his community for abandoning him. I aboozed my powers but once! BUT ONCE!

Edit: Just did some testing. I vote Dallas. Give me a much more stable reading than I get from Chicago and it isn't much worse than LA, less jitter for some reason. I'm pretty sick of ice skatting so the insanely low jitter would be lovely.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Adrian on February 14, 2012, 05:30:24 pm
I would definitely be happy with a Texas server. I think compromise is what is needed here and that compromise would be a Texas server, not this Chicago BS. Chicago is NOT central
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Sergee on February 14, 2012, 05:39:43 pm
36 haters said no
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: snipercapt on February 14, 2012, 05:59:35 pm
Kansas server!
Yussssss!
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 14, 2012, 06:56:46 pm
LETS PUT THE SERVER IN FLORIDA SO EVERYONE IS SCREWED! :D

Put it in Orlando or miami! Everyone will have like 80 ping then! Equally unfair for everyone!
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Scrambles720 on February 14, 2012, 07:32:31 pm
TEXAS! No seriously put it in Dallas so i can have like 10 ping ;)
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Chris_P_Bacon on February 15, 2012, 04:42:08 am
Obviously we have a rapist in Linki- I mean we should have 2 server groups, one about a third of the way from the east side of the country and one a third of the way from the west. The chicago location is perfect for east, and maybe if there are any good locations in Colorado... Haha nevermind.

Alternatively I think it should be done by state density. Therefore either D.C or New Jersey should have their own server.

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Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: reaperkiller on February 15, 2012, 07:09:11 am
Dallas or California ftw!
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Shatter on February 19, 2012, 11:00:11 am
I would love California but Texas would be great. No point in having all the servers in one area.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Kivlov on February 20, 2012, 12:59:47 am
Texas is too far south, gtfo.

Western would be too far west for a lot of people, mountainous around colarado would be ideally centralized since anyone around BC will ping roughly the same to chicago as texas.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Rumblood on February 20, 2012, 01:36:08 am
Texas is too far south, gtfo.

Western would be too far west for a lot of people, mountainous around colarado would be ideally centralized since anyone around BC will ping roughly the same to chicago as texas.

You're ignorant, gtfo.

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Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Sir Gilinor on February 20, 2012, 01:52:33 am
Yeeeesssss. Lesss geeeet some seeerrvveerrs o'er heeerreee. Wee'rrree soo loooneellyy.  :cry:
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Mannhammer on February 20, 2012, 01:57:58 am
If we can get a west coast server I will finally give up archer.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Sir Gilinor on February 20, 2012, 02:05:18 am
Great idea everyone: Lets put it up here in Washington state so that everyone's screwed except for me. Florida is also a great idea too. :P Lets just keep it in little corners of the US.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: robert_namo on February 20, 2012, 04:00:56 am
So meow what's the final word?
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Miley on February 20, 2012, 04:11:45 am
This would make Strategus west. This would be a no.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Earthdforce on February 20, 2012, 04:25:01 am
This would make Strategus west. This would be a no.
Strat's on NA3...
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Sergee on February 22, 2012, 05:25:20 pm
BUMMMP! Tired of having 90-100 ping primetime
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Huey Newton on February 23, 2012, 03:59:40 am
BUMMMP! Tired of having 90-100 ping primetime

they don't want us low ping serge
trust
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Sergee on February 23, 2012, 07:58:28 am
they don't want us low ping serge
trust

U KNOW!!
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on February 23, 2012, 09:12:11 am
Put one in Dallas FFS its got a better set of pipes.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Level30_Wizard on February 23, 2012, 10:26:57 am
So I guess it's settled then...

NA1 Will be a Seattle server.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Peppovitch on February 23, 2012, 01:49:56 pm
I would love to see a NW coast server. If not that, then perhaps a Texas server.

Chicago isn't bad, but I've always wanted to try the game with something lower than 80-100 ping.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Sergee on February 23, 2012, 04:20:27 pm
I would love to see a NW coast server. If not that, then perhaps a Texas server.

Chicago isn't bad, but I've always wanted to try the game with something lower than 80-100 ping.


They used to have a couple private clan west coast servers its prettttty amazing you get like no delay really
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: robert_namo on February 24, 2012, 11:34:41 am
Put it in Texas in a city no one fucking lives near.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: EyeBeat on February 24, 2012, 12:09:51 pm
I say we keep it in chicago.

I donated 100 dollars so keep it in chicago.

THANKS.

PS: Serge and Namo would be bad on the west coast server as well as the chicago server.   :twisted:
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Sergee on February 24, 2012, 09:49:18 pm
what a jerk! lol
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: AreTreble on February 24, 2012, 10:09:39 pm
It's true that East Coast and Central players have a ping advantage. I'm in the Seattle area and average 75-85 ping--roughly twice the latency of an east coast player. As you can see by the vote distribution, at least half the players who voted would prefer a west coast server in addition to the Chicago server.

Host it in California or Washington. +1
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on February 24, 2012, 10:47:20 pm
I say no.  NA-1 is where the majority of people are playing.  Ask the community server to move.

Also, it shouldn't be a west coast server, maybe texas (one less WAN hop).  Texas and Chi are the best server locations because even if you're west coast, chi is better than NYC.  And if you're east, Texas is better than Cali or (FSM forbid, Seattle).

IMO a server should never be farther west than Los Angeles , and farther east than NYC, but central servers are the best for meeting everyone's needs (as a whole).
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Ufthak on February 27, 2012, 01:33:38 am
Great idea everyone: Lets put it up here in Washington state so that everyone's screwed except for me. Florida is also a great idea too. :P Lets just keep it in little corners of the US.

You'd be surprised by how many of us live in Bellingham Washington. You'd think we were a major city or something by how many of us there are in such a small community. Wouldn't be surprised if it turned out more people lived here than in Seattle from CRPG.

I gained 10 ping when Zealot moved the server from Texas to Chicago, so I'd definitely prefer the old location, having below 60 ping was amazing. Sometimes it spikes as high as 80's lately. Actually having an official west-coast server would be a bad idea though, unless it were say... a small 40-60 man server that could also be used for battlegroups?
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: John on February 27, 2012, 06:50:24 am
Now, I can deal with the official server being in Chicago even though it's three quarters of the way toward the East coast, but why on earth did the community guys put up a competing server in the same city?  It annoys me greatly.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: robert_namo on February 27, 2012, 07:59:33 am
You see, we don't need to move NA1 or community 1, we have 2 siege servers that 1 of them and even both at times are at 0 population. Just take one out. This is a hard thing to do cause both the NA and Ecko want to supply the population with servers, they just need to agree on 1 thing to make this work.

At the time of this post 74 people want a west coast/Texas server maybe subtract a few EUs voting and this server will still maintain a 25-70 population all day.
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Sergee on March 02, 2012, 08:28:02 am
BUMPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: vinnytk on March 02, 2012, 04:44:29 pm
Strat's on NA3...

NA1, 2, 3, 6 are all on the same box.  You move one you move them all or you get a second box which is expensive
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Sergee on March 03, 2012, 05:25:14 am
Obama this isn't the change I voted for
Title: Re: Petition to make NA1 a West Coast Server
Post by: Blackzilla on March 03, 2012, 06:16:03 am
Move it back to Texas!