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Title: Improve the speed of swings, blocks? (2h)
Post by: Lordgoat on February 28, 2011, 11:30:28 pm
I always feel that I'm slower than my opponent, almost all the time. After a swing, it takes much time to block, I always get hit. I have a Nodachi, with 75 wpf and 15 agi.
Which skill effects the combat speed the most?
Title: Re: Improve the speed of swings, blocks? (2h)
Post by: IG_Saint on February 28, 2011, 11:45:20 pm
wpf, get more of it. And check your ping. If it's above 120 or so, well, good luck :). And you probably just need more experience. Have a look at the video in my sig and watch how fast I counter attack after blocking. That's how fast you should be (with about 50 wpf more).
Title: Re: Improve the speed of swings, blocks? (2h)
Post by: Lordgoat on February 28, 2011, 11:51:53 pm
So you say i have enough agility, and I need only more wpf?
Title: Re: Improve the speed of swings, blocks? (2h)
Post by: cmp on February 28, 2011, 11:59:09 pm
Have a look at the video in my sig

LOL @ the guy getting butthurt and ban-polling, then facehugging at duel start and getting owned even harder. :lol:
Title: Re: Improve the speed of swings, blocks? (2h)
Post by: IG_Saint on March 01, 2011, 12:01:17 am
21 str, 18 agi or 18 str, 21 agi at lvl30/31 is what I recommend. It's just preference whether you want speed or str. Go 18/18, then decide what you need more of. This is for a melee heavy hybrid, if you want to take archery or throwing you'll need to look into it some more for the optimum PD/PT for your gear. I suggest you use: http://infinitum.dyndns.org/crpg/calc.htm (http://infinitum.dyndns.org/crpg/calc.htm) for planning your chars.

@ cmpxchg8b I don't think the guy was serious about it. I sure didn't care. :wink:
Title: Re: Improve the speed of swings, blocks? (2h)
Post by: Lordgoat on March 01, 2011, 12:08:56 am
Thanks for the answer!
Title: Re: Improve the speed of swings, blocks? (2h)
Post by: cmp on March 01, 2011, 01:09:25 am
@ cmpxchg8b I don't think the guy was serious about it. I sure didn't care. :wink:

Yeah, I figured. Else he'd be banned already. :)
Title: Re: Improve the speed of swings, blocks? (2h)
Post by: Banok on March 01, 2011, 02:19:16 am
Flamberge is buggy anyway can hit so quickly with it if you turn into swing, even point blank range. I think its something to do with it not bouncing at odd angles like normal weapons would, especially long ones.

its less OP now with only one 2h animation, but its still a dodgy annoying weapon both to use and fight against now because of the unpredictable reach. needs a rethink or a deletion imo.
Title: Re: Improve the speed of swings, blocks? (2h)
Post by: BalrogBoru on March 01, 2011, 03:13:05 am
its less OP now with only one 2h animation, but its still a dodgy annoying weapon both to use and fight against now because of the unpredictable reach. also my glasses need a rethink or a deletion imo.

+1
Title: Re: Improve the speed of swings, blocks? (2h)
Post by: Pinx0 on March 01, 2011, 01:47:57 pm
Quote from: Banok on Today at 00:19:16

    its less OP now with only one 2h animation, but its still a dodgy annoying weapon both to use and fight against now because of the unpredictable reach. also my glasses need a rethink or a deletion imo.
+1
loool, when i read the quote i thought... he actually said this?
Title: Re: Improve the speed of swings, blocks? (2h)
Post by: [ptx] on March 01, 2011, 01:52:54 pm
Weapon speed plays a large part in this as well. You really shouldn't have trouble blocking fast enough at 15 agi, unless you are using some maul or something... or you have above 80 ping ;d
Title: Re: Improve the speed of swings, blocks? (2h)
Post by: Hirlok on March 02, 2011, 08:06:32 pm
yep, ping is a bitch for manual blocking, unless you are a true psychic and able to see 0.3 seconds into the future... ;-)  - I totally gave up on 2H and it is even impossible sometimes to get a shield up in time when ping is >200
So if you are usually dead while you still think how to block that attack, ping is the first thing to check...
Title: Re: Improve the speed of swings, blocks? (2h)
Post by: Formless on March 02, 2011, 08:17:33 pm
Hirlok was that you with the smart ass comment yestarday?   "That will teach you to run" 
Title: Re: Improve the speed of swings, blocks? (2h)
Post by: Hirlok on March 02, 2011, 08:26:19 pm
Hirlok was that you with the smart ass comment yestarday?   "That will teach you to run"

lol - yep. I hate hit-and-run-and-return melee pussies, esp. when they run from a noob-archer with high ping, where running is soooo unnecessary ;-) So I love it when I manage to shoot them while they run.
Title: Re: Improve the speed of swings, blocks? (2h)
Post by: Formless on March 02, 2011, 08:30:18 pm
lol - yep. I hate hit-and-run-and-return melee pussies, esp. when they run from a noob-archer with high ping, where running is soooo unnecessary ;-) So I love it when I manage to shoot them while they run.

Smart ass  :D

Looking forward to running you over next time I see you.  :twisted: 
Title: Re: Improve the speed of swings, blocks? (2h)
Post by: Hirlok on March 02, 2011, 08:40:30 pm
Smart ass  :D

Looking forward to running you over next time I see you.  :twisted:

..you have done that many times, as any decent melee guy. lol
BTW- that was not you yesterday, he? I remember shooting you once as well, but the hit-and-run guy was a different one. This cowardly BS has become fashionable recently - hitting once, then, when they did not get you on the first strike they run 20 meters away, just to return once you have focused on something else. Bah. Stand and finish it. (resp. finish me, I usually don't stand a chance in melee)
Title: Re: Improve the speed of swings, blocks? (2h)
Post by: Formless on March 02, 2011, 08:50:47 pm
..you have done that many times, as any decent melee guy. lol
BTW- that was not you yesterday, he? I remember shooting you once as well, but the hit-and-run guy was a different one. This cowardly BS has become fashionable recently - hitting once, then, when they did not get you on the first strike they run 20 meters away, just to return once you have focused on something else. Bah. Stand and finish it. (resp. finish me, I usually don't stand a chance in melee)

I was not the hit and run guy.  What happend is that I jumped off the siege wall to kill a ladder which took most of my health off.  Then running toward the ladder I ran pass you (I  had bigger fish to fry).  I usually look behind me constantly, this time was no exception I looked back with ~ and saw you chasing and pulling your bow out.  I turned around and smacked you twice with the warhammer you pulled out your sword and hit me once with that stupid curved blade and finished me off.  Then to add insult to injury the comment "That will teach you to run" ( :D bastard) 
Title: Re: Improve the speed of swings, blocks? (2h)
Post by: Hirlok on March 02, 2011, 09:16:02 pm
Then to add insult to injury the comment "That will teach you to run" ( :D bastard)
rofl - but it was not targeted at you.
Anyways, you will get your revenge. Be quick, before I hairloom that stupid curved blade a second time... quite nice for cutting throats ;-)
Title: Re: Improve the speed of swings, blocks? (2h)
Post by: RandomDude on March 03, 2011, 07:02:48 pm
LOL @ the guy getting butthurt and ban-polling, then facehugging at duel start and getting owned even harder. :lol:

dont laugh at me

@Hirlok yeh i hate it when people will just run from you, just waiting till you're fighting someone else.

Sometimes you can catch them out but it's hard if you're already fighting a tough opponent.

Lame but effective?