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Title: Punished for leaving?
Post by: Lagkill on January 05, 2011, 04:58:58 am
I don't understand. I was playing for a couple of hours after the patch came out, and my team was winning and we were having a time. Then I quit so I can go shower and eat, and when I come back I see all my gear is broken. I didn't quit in the middle of a game, and my team won the last game. Why do I now have to pay a fortune to fix every last piece of gear i had on when i stopped playing?
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: Allers on January 05, 2011, 05:01:01 am
Ya that is what i was wondering. Thats really stupid
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: Devilize on January 05, 2011, 05:42:51 am
same, i lost about 15k for leaving a round to go eat. in total ive lost about 45k within 3 rounds of playing a tank and leaving.
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: AdNecrias on January 05, 2011, 05:52:35 am
It's simple. If you leave, leave the server. If you are on the losing team your gear will downgrade. Even if you didn't participate nor get gold/xp.

Leave the slot open for other people.
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: Devilize on January 05, 2011, 06:00:49 am
It's simple. If you leave, leave the server. If you are on the losing team your gear will downgrade. Even if you didn't participate nor get gold/xp.

Leave the slot open for other people.

I guess i didn't explain myself well enough, what i meant was that i left the server during a round to go eat not just afk for a round and then came back.
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: Reinhardt on January 05, 2011, 06:06:57 am
Cool. Sounds like another bullshit way to punish people like Call of duty or something.

I like the patch, but there definitely is room for some improvement.

Nonetheless, sorry for your losses.
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: Kung Fu Jesus on January 05, 2011, 08:19:16 am
Are you leaving mid-round or at the start of the next round?
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: Lagkill on January 05, 2011, 08:19:44 am
It's simple. If you leave, leave the server. If you are on the losing team your gear will downgrade. Even if you didn't participate nor get gold/xp.

Leave the slot open for other people.

I did. After a game completed I logged off. My equipment was then broken. I guess its okay if i played for a couple hours like tonight. But a lot of times I'll log in for a quick round or two. This will bankrupt me.

I wasn't in the middle of a round at all. I was at the selection screen before a new game started. It wasn't even mid-game. The map had just changed.
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: bruce on January 05, 2011, 08:31:52 am
On one hand it's needed to prevent people leaving mid-game when they see they're going to lose, on the other we really could use a short period at the start of the match where you can leave the game.
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: Blondin on January 05, 2011, 08:50:15 am
I'm ok that we should be punish to leave mid game but kick bug? or server disconnection?
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: LLJK_DirtyCajun on January 05, 2011, 09:06:50 am
Soooooooooo what everyone wants is so that you can leave mid round when losing and your gear wont break.  Pretty dumb.
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: Niemand on January 05, 2011, 09:34:32 am
Soooooooooo what everyone wants is so that you can leave mid round when losing and your gear wont break.  Pretty dumb.
wtf? some people have to work and dont have school-holidays, so they cant play the whole day. and if i have my break i am able to play two or three rounds. But if all my equip breaks just because I want to stop playing or got a connection fail or get kicked or somebody visits me or my parents need help with carrying the bought stuff... I won't play after a few weeks, cause my stuff is broken and I am bankrupt.
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: Manabalu on January 05, 2011, 03:25:32 pm
Have to push it...
Do I understand this currectly? If I leaving the game at a running round I have to repair ALL my eqiupment? I can't play at all then, because my internet connection isn't very stable and I disconnect from time to time. I really hope it's not true.
On one hand it's needed to prevent people leaving mid-game when they see they're going to lose, on the other we really could use a short period at the start of the match where you can leave the game.
How does the upkeep system works? I thought there is a chance that one item will be downgraded, if losing. So why not simply do the same when you leave the server. There is no reason to make the punishment harder than a normal loss...
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: Heroin on January 05, 2011, 03:42:17 pm
I made a fuss about this on the taleworlds forum due to poor internet connectivity a month before the patch came out. You guys should have followed what was going on then, and spoke up. It IS rediculous that you can't have short play sessions, or have a semi-reliable internet connection and play. We ARE being punished needlessly, because the developers could not come up with a more imaginative way of dealing with item decay.

I could list several alternatives here, that could be implemented to make the entire system suck less. But I doubt there would be much point. Developers rarely listen to the most intelligent among their fans. And since that's me, my pleas would fall on deaf ears.
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: krampe on January 05, 2011, 04:18:36 pm
Developers rarely listen to the most intelligent among their fans. And since that's me, my pleas would fall on deaf ears.

Bwaaaahahahaa made my day! Thanks little school gangsta
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: Heroin on January 05, 2011, 04:36:38 pm
Yeah, I thought a few people would like that. I figured the "sarcasm" would be well-received by those thinking I'm trolling. Secretly, however, I hold the fact that I have a 142 IQ close to my heart. But shhhh, don't tell anyone. Let them think I'm trolling. It's better that way. If you actually tell people when you're a genius, anyone who isn't automatically has a defense mechanism in their brain that kicks in, not allowing them to believe it. Idiots like to think the concept of a "genius" is a made-up fairytale, like dragons or vampires. It's best to let them believe that. So let's not tell them, ok?
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: krampe on January 05, 2011, 04:42:15 pm
Impressive, i admire you and i won't tell anyone!
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: drussus on January 05, 2011, 05:07:38 pm
On one hand it's needed to prevent people leaving mid-game when they see they're going to lose, on the other we really could use a short period at the start of the match where you can leave the game.

Aye, a short gap at the start of the round where we can leave server without incurring kit damage would be good. 
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: Amadeo on January 05, 2011, 05:14:19 pm
Yeah, I thought a few people would like that. I figured the "sarcasm" would be well-received by those thinking I'm trolling. Secretly, however, I hold the fact that I have a 142 IQ close to my heart. But shhhh, don't tell anyone. Let them think I'm trolling. It's better that way. If you actually tell people when you're a genius, anyone who isn't automatically has a defense mechanism in their brain that kicks in, not allowing them to believe it. Idiots like to think the concept of a "genius" is a made-up fairytale, like dragons or vampires. It's best to let them believe that. So let's not tell them, ok?

i know ... i get the same reaction from people when i tell them I'm God ...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: Spurdospera on January 05, 2011, 05:53:18 pm
Just spawn naked and then leave. Simple.
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: AdNecrias on January 05, 2011, 06:04:09 pm
Well seems we'll have to buy economic gear just for when we'll only play a couple rounds...
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: Gatoloco on January 05, 2011, 06:19:12 pm
Just spawn naked and then leave. Simple.

That might work.
Wait, how do you completely remove all gears ingame? Prior to spawn, I can only change gears but not remove them.
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: audax on January 05, 2011, 06:21:18 pm
That might work.
Wait, how do you completely remove all gears ingame? Prior to spawn, I can only change gears but not remove them.
Right click on your equip ingame.
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: crazybob on January 05, 2011, 06:50:23 pm
SUGGESTION:
I would be fair if you had the same chance of degrading as usual if you decide too leave the round (lets say more than 30 seconds in). Leaving the game in the beginning of the round should not be punished.
That way it wouldnt benefit anyone to leave but not really punish either = Fair.


And if possible, to make it even more fair, only have a chance to degrade equipment if it turns out your team lost. Dunno if that can be done though.
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: Spurdospera on January 05, 2011, 07:15:10 pm
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I think spawning naked would still be easier option, works for me every time.
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: Lagkill on January 05, 2011, 07:56:56 pm
That's a good idea actually. We'll just have to run the naked mile for a minute or two before we leave for the day. good call.
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: Snapalope on January 05, 2011, 09:07:37 pm
I left the server to take a shit and when I relog my gear is all broken :(  No money to repair
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: Spurdospera on January 06, 2011, 02:13:41 am
That's a good idea actually. We'll just have to run the naked mile for a minute or two before we leave for the day. good call.
Actually you only have to spawn naked and then leave. You dont have to play next round at all.
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: Lagkill on January 06, 2011, 08:20:47 am
Actually you only have to spawn naked and then leave. You dont have to play next round at all.

yep, screw the autobalance. lol
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: EliteDragon on January 06, 2011, 09:25:12 am
Just spawn naked and then leave. Simple.

Boss. Simple resolution to a heated problem.
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: chadz on January 06, 2011, 10:40:37 am
I'll add a 40 second timer after round start, probably today in a ninja patch, within that you can leave the server easily.

However, some things seem to be wrong here. You are all saying that you lost all equipment when leaving? You should only get the same break chance as if you stayed in the server.

Hm.. there might be a bug, increasing your chance too high, I'll check it out.
Title: Re: Punished for leaving?
Post by: Draedan on January 06, 2011, 01:46:49 pm
I think spawning naked would still be easier option, works for me every time.
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I'll add a 40 second timer after round start, probably today in a ninja patch, within that you can leave the server easily.

However, some things seem to be wrong here. You are all saying that you lost all equipment when leaving? You should only get the same break chance as if you stayed in the server.

Hm.. there might be a bug, increasing your chance too high, I'll check it out.
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will you be making a topic with patch add and changes any time soon?? thanks!