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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Fluffy_Muffin on February 07, 2012, 12:08:25 pm

Title: Respec
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on February 07, 2012, 12:08:25 pm
A respec that you can use once per generation with no xp penalty would be a neat addition. I personaly almost always find myself bored at the half of lvl 30 and would like a change of pace. So the respec would add a bit more fun to the 30-31 process. I imagine that would be its primary purpose, you can use it whenever you wish tho. Only restriciton is that it can only be used once per generation (next one is a normal respec)

Thoughts?


Edit: I vaugley remember this being brought up once in the past. I think it deserves another try

Title: Re: Respec
Post by: _Tak_ on February 07, 2012, 03:22:39 pm
This would be good for players below level 30 but not so good for 31+
Title: Re: Respec
Post by: Corwin on February 07, 2012, 03:24:47 pm
I think it would be great. I am playing my second gen as cav, and I am already tired of it. I want a free respec!
Title: Re: Respec
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on February 08, 2012, 12:27:08 pm
Well i reckon we need more votes for it to be considered, so bump!  :D
Title: Re: Respec
Post by: Miwiw on February 08, 2012, 01:08:42 pm
Voted no, because you simply should decide what you wish to play at the beginning of your generation and if you are getting bored of it, you have the possibility to respec, but of course with a penalty of simply losing half your xp. I like it how it is like now.

(i was surely bored of a build at half lvl 30 before, however liked it later on..still I prefer the penalty)
Title: Re: Respec
Post by: Arn_Magnusson on February 09, 2012, 09:52:25 pm
It's great idea! I got the same thing, get bored after 5 mil or 5.5 mil! But mabye there should be pay too? Once per gen respec - no exp, just 10k of gold or smthg.
Title: Re: Respec
Post by: Leshma on February 09, 2012, 10:00:49 pm
Having 86 million XP under my belt and wanting badly to change my build, I fully support this :D
Title: Re: Respec
Post by: Rumblood on February 09, 2012, 10:02:37 pm
I say No. Why?

An Archer is the most difficult class to level up in terms of being useful or fun. Having to grow up as a doormat for cavalry and infantry, living through the frustration of shooting half a dozen arrows into someone only for them to bash your head in, being unable to accurately hit anything until you get high enough WPF is the punishment that someone must go through before getting into the upper echelon where you can hit what you aim for and do enough damage to kill it.

I do NOT want people to be able to go EZ Cav mode until lvl 30 and then switch right over to a hard hitting, accurate archer. No way.

Force people to live with the class they want, not allow them to ride a bike the first 26 miles of a marathon and then switch to foot for the last 385 yards.
Title: Re: Respec
Post by: zagibu on February 09, 2012, 11:41:50 pm
Undo 1 Attribute point: 500k gold. Undo 1 skillpoint: 250k gold. Undo 10 WPF: 50k gold.
Title: Re: Respec
Post by: Arn_Magnusson on February 10, 2012, 12:49:25 am
Nope, that's nonsense.

Rumblood, yes your probably right, but if someone is archer reaching 30lvl from 21lvl should be a pleasure and good training when, the 21 lvl anyone can reach quickly, and I again say, to do it, you'll need cash, like 10k.
Title: Re: Respec
Post by: Lamk on February 10, 2012, 01:03:22 am
I support this idea, it sounds very interesting
Title: Re: Respec
Post by: Brrrak on February 10, 2012, 07:14:02 am
It's an interesting idea, but I think Grannpappy makes a good point; if not in terms of balance, but in terms of player satisfaction.

However, I would very much appreciate the ability to roll back a respec once per gen, because you were an idiot and decided that the 1h torchbearer build would be THE MOST EPIC THING EVER when, in reality, you got bored of it quickly and started raging at dying even though all you carried was a torch.
Title: Re: Respec
Post by: Okkam on February 10, 2012, 10:59:16 am
Just make fair price. For example:

+1 loomed item for every 9m of exp (disputable).
So, if you wanna respec as 81m character - sacrifice 3 masterwork items. (or 9 +1 items)

This will encourage people to buy cheap\unused loomed offers at market, also it's a good moneysink for highlevel chars.
Title: Re: Respec
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on February 10, 2012, 06:54:32 pm
Or just make it money based? I dont think people would like the idea of loom sacrafice
Title: Re: Respec
Post by: _Tak_ on February 10, 2012, 07:10:35 pm
 mistakely put points into throwing.........lol  respec 2 times , lose lots of exp. Now i am level 28 and would like to respec to a archer (Only if the respec is free) i dont want to lose any exp anymore, stupid
Title: Re: Respec
Post by: Falka on February 10, 2012, 07:25:08 pm
Quote from: Leshma on February 09, 2012, 10:00:49 pm
Having 86 million XP under my belt and wanting badly to change my build, I fully support this :D
What's your build?
Title: Re: Respec
Post by: Leshma on February 10, 2012, 07:43:21 pm
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I want to change it to:

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It's much better than my current build.

Or to this:

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I'm very high level but my current build isn't OP as it could be.
Title: Re: Respec
Post by: Miwiw on February 10, 2012, 07:57:51 pm
Well, isn't that simply your own problem? There are too many high level chars anyway.
Title: Re: Respec
Post by: Falka on February 10, 2012, 09:01:13 pm
You don't want to be agiwhore any more? That's just sad  :| I aim at 18 24 as well or maybe 21 24 on lvl 35 :wink: though currently I'm lvl 30 :wink:
Title: Re: Respec
Post by: MR_FISTA on February 10, 2012, 09:19:24 pm
I don't think it should be allowed I like how hard this mod is and I'd appreciate it staying hard.

So many games cater to 10 year old gimmie free shiz ect cry baby's, it's nice to have a game reward time spent playing it.

Title: Re: Respec
Post by: Penitent on February 10, 2012, 09:45:24 pm
I think we should lessen the pentaly for respeccing.  50% xp at level 30 is a LOT of play time.  I think it should be 25% xp loss per respec.

That way its not such a huge hit if you mess somehting up, but its a significant enough loss of xp that people wont be doing it all the time.
Title: Re: Respec
Post by: Christo on February 11, 2012, 04:28:33 am
1-30 = 50% XP cost

30 <  25% XP cost.
     =

Just a quick idea, it would have weird consequences though, I admit.
Title: Re: Respec
Post by: Siiem on February 11, 2012, 06:37:30 am
I would not like those my old friends at lvl 34+ to get a free respec. NO!
Title: Re: Respec
Post by: San on February 11, 2012, 07:12:57 am
I would like an option that isn't just a free giveaway. That's why I am a little hesitant whenever it's brought up. My character is currently level 33, and I've respecced at level 33 in the past, so I know what it feels like to respec a high level character.

How about you pay additional gold to lower the % XP lost when you respec? With a fair cap around 20% XP cost at least, as well as increased payment for each level, this could be reasonable.
Title: Re: Respec
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on February 11, 2012, 09:02:27 am
The trouble with money based respecs is where do you being? Getting a hold of 500k is a walk in the park but more than that seems pretty exsessive.

I think the 50% cut is a bit much though.
Title: Re: Respec
Post by: Leshma on February 11, 2012, 01:22:04 pm
Quote from: Falka on February 10, 2012, 09:01:13 pm
You don't want to be agiwhore any more? That's just sad  :| I aim at 18 24 as well or maybe 21 24 on lvl 35 :wink: though currently I'm lvl 30 :wink:

When I was wearing heavy armor, being agiwhore was ok. Right now I'm wearing either light or medium armor and I feel like a s-key hero most of the time. I want to hit harder and stop running backwards. Because of high ATH I've became lazy blocker as well.

The main reason why I made such build is to chase my old friendchers. Now they are too dangerous (they headshot me all the time) so it would be better to make some brawl friendly build.