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Strategus => Strategus General Discussion => Topic started by: Mike_of_Kingswell on February 04, 2012, 06:23:20 pm

Title: AI Signs you off the roster DURING the fight
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on February 04, 2012, 06:23:20 pm
Happend to me in the
EU_cRPG_3   Siege   Sat 17:50   Druzhina  a:1283   vs     Senuzgda Castle  a:2953
fight.

Seams that AI changes rosters WHILE fights (at full houre)
I only noticed 20 minutes after the last full houre due to a disconnect: at rejoining i became spectator.
And i seams that i didnt get any exp for my time IN the battle (or at least the time i fought since last full houre)

Cant you FIX AI rosters after the beginning of the fight so such things dont happen again? I was actually looking forward to a good battle and some great exp in a nice siege...  :?


greetz mike
Title: Re: AI Signs you off the roster WHILE the fight
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on February 04, 2012, 06:29:39 pm
*sorry doubblepost*
move this topic SRATEGUS ISSUES please  made a mistake ;)
Title: Re: AI Signs you off the roster WHILE the fight
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on February 04, 2012, 06:58:54 pm
WHY introduce a reliability System if the whole roster hireing stuff is NOT reliable?
How shall someone show up for a battle if he gets accepted AFTER it starts.
How can one plan for a evening entertaiment when he can get unsigned even during the battle?
Title: Re: AI Signs you off the roster WHILE the fight
Post by: Rogue on February 04, 2012, 07:07:30 pm
I was accepted by the AI for the battle yesterday. Came home almost right in time (10min before it started) to play in it, only to find myself no longer on the roster.
Title: Re: AI Signs you off the roster WHILE the fight
Post by: Nessaj on February 04, 2012, 07:12:01 pm
The "AI" will hire/remove people at any full hours during and prior to the battles. E.g. if a battle starts at 17:50 and you didn't make the sign-up at 17:00 you could get hired at 18:00.
If someone more eligible (level + reliability) signs up someone less eligible might get bumped at the full hour even though this person is already in-game playing.

The easiest would be if the "AI" automatically do a 'check' 5 minutes after a battle starts (or after the ready phases are over) - something in that regard - anyone who isn't on the server gets automatically bumped for someone else who signed up. IMO it is important to do whatever is necessary to keep a full roster in a neutral fief, there have been way too many issues in the past where over half the hired players did not show up for a battle while all those who were ready could just sit in spectator mode and watch.
Title: Re: AI Signs you off the roster WHILE the fight
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on February 04, 2012, 07:20:09 pm
IMO it is important to do whatever is necessary to keep a full roster in a neutral fief, there have been way too many issues in the past where over half the hired players did not show up for a battle while all those who were ready could just sit in spectator mode and watch.

I second this....but dont sign off ppl who already in there and try to do something for a ai fief :/
Title: Re: AI Signs you off the roster WHILE the fight
Post by: RandomDude on February 04, 2012, 10:59:09 pm
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HAHAHAHAHAHA

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Title: Re: AI Signs you off the roster WHILE the fight
Post by: Konrax on February 05, 2012, 12:22:14 am
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HAHAHAHAHAHA

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Great response by an admin.

Btw might want to check yourself into daycare.
Title: Re: AI Signs you off the roster WHILE the fight
Post by: Herkkutatti on February 05, 2012, 12:29:21 am
I was accepted even after the batlte had begun lol.
you probaply got my spot after i got vote banned.
Title: Re: AI Signs you off the roster WHILE the fight
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on February 05, 2012, 01:06:11 am
HAHAHAHAHAHA


Great response by an admin.

this...dont get me wrong i am a huge fan of yours random but in this i got to say i was/am pissed of for being unsigned during battles and your response doesnt help at all. so if you just about to troll the forums do it in our faction thread or just hop on ts and all is fine but this topic is ment for serious talk.

if you ever are in doubt about what to do in response of a topic just stick with good old thumper here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wui-PNqJrxs&feature=related
Title: Re: AI Signs you off the roster WHILE the fight
Post by: Stabby_Dave on February 05, 2012, 01:09:26 am
Great response by an admin.

Btw might want to check yourself into daycare.

HAHAHAHAHA

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Title: Re: AI Signs you off the roster WHILE the fight
Post by: Franke on February 05, 2012, 02:07:23 am
Happend to me in the
EU_cRPG_3   Siege   Sat 17:50   Druzhina  a:1283   vs     Senuzgda Castle  a:2953
fight.

Seams that AI changes rosters WHILE fights (at full houre)
I only noticed 20 minutes after the last full houre due to a disconnect: at rejoining i became spectator.
And i seams that i didnt get any exp for my time IN the battle (or at least the time i fought since last full houre)

Cant you FIX AI rosters after the beginning of the fight so such things dont happen again? I was actually looking forward to a good battle and some great exp in a nice siege...  :?


greetz mike

This happened to me in one of DRZs attacks on Grunwalder castle. I got accepted and fought the battle but didn't get the xp displayed during the battle because I was taken from the roster during the fight.
Title: Re: AI Signs you off the roster WHILE the fight
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on February 05, 2012, 02:12:38 am
Some body made a suggestion about having subs, it seems like it might solve this.

So many people just don't show up.

Its a poo pants.
Title: Re: AI Signs you off the roster WHILE the fight
Post by: RandomDude on February 05, 2012, 06:33:07 pm
If it was anyone but Mike that it happened to I wouldnt of even typed anything.

The amount of times Mike has trolled me on ts though.... my troll was well deserved!
Title: Re: AI Signs you off the roster WHILE the fight
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on February 05, 2012, 06:48:39 pm
If it was anyone but Mike that it happened to I wouldnt of even typed anything.

You always manage to make me feel special random... <3 <3

BTT: If it happens to me again in the upcomming Castle Siege i will be really really pissed....
Title: Re: AI Signs you off the roster WHILE the fight
Post by: Rogue on February 05, 2012, 07:10:07 pm
The AI fief unsigned me again at the last full hour. How are you supposed to plan ahead for these battles if they AI just unsigns you 5 minutes before the battle starts, although I was on the roster for more than 20 hours.
Title: Re: AI Signs you off the roster WHILE the fight
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on February 05, 2012, 07:52:09 pm
How are you supposed to plan ahead for these battles

With this system you are not supposed to be able to plan ahead...!
Title: Re: AI Signs you off the roster WHILE the fight
Post by: Lactose_the_intolerant on February 06, 2012, 11:38:55 pm
and what was kind of great was to see a guy called fatty man or something alike get 30 kills for 109 deaths!( the max was 30 for other players...)

and guess what? he got hired for the next siege  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: AI Signs you off the roster WHILE the fight
Post by: RandomDude on February 06, 2012, 11:47:35 pm
It is a bit silly to be hired 20 hrs in advance and then be removed (although if you think about it, human commanders would do the same thing, hiring a lvl 26/27 and replacing them for lvl 30/31+ sometimes.)

Maybe some notification of how likely you are to stay in roster could help?

and what was kind of great was to see a guy called fatty man or something alike get 30 kills for 109 deaths!( the max was 30 for other players...)

and guess what? he got hired for the next siege  :rolleyes:

Yeah there's always some guy(s) with 0 kills and xxx deaths in AI defences. Its not a crime to be bad and I guess this is the best hope they have for participating in strat battles. I just hope its not a case of people purposefully dying and doing bad though.

Everyone has a right to be involved and some of these guys probably dont care about how it affects strategus, but just want to have fun (must be from a planet other than Earth tho!).
Title: Re: AI Signs you off the roster DURING the fight
Post by: Lactose_the_intolerant on February 08, 2012, 04:24:23 am
I'm not talking about noobs, I'm talking about morons.

The biggest noob died 30 times, this guy died 110 times in an hour siege....if my maths are correct thats nearly two death a minit. Basically jumping off the walls and repeat...
Title: Re: AI Signs you off the roster DURING the fight
Post by: Leesin on February 08, 2012, 06:22:35 am
Yes, every AI defense I see you get a few of those idiots, last time I played a castle defense there were even players from well known clans doing the same, racking up huge amounts of deaths with little kills, when some of the players on my team purposely blocked the routes they could jump from, they begun attacking our team mates.

Should be stricter rulings on Strategus, it shouldn't be for idiots just to sign up to battles just so they can jump off the wall, fail and die with little or no kills, rinse and repeat for an hour, they can go play Siege and do that.

Anyway, back on topic, the Roster should just have substitutes rather than accepting people after the battle begins and also it shouldn't remove anyone it has already accepted, if people don't show up then it can start accepting people from the substitutes. I know I'd be pissed if I got taken off the Roster after making the time to come on and play the battle.
Title: Re: AI Signs you off the roster DURING the fight
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on February 25, 2012, 07:08:20 pm
ARE YOU FU**ING KIDDING ME?!

i applied for Dhirim like 24h before the battle and got accepted
Battle of Dihrim started ~18:45   I am accepted
19:00 I AM NOT ACCPEDTED AFTER 15 minutes of fighting?!?


WHAT THE ....?!

HOW IS ANYONE TO PLAN IF AI FUCK THIS SHIT UP YET AGAIN!?


€ yes i am lvl 30 and i didnt change anything about that ;)
€2: wont bother fighting for stupid ai anymore...
Title: Re: AI Signs you off the roster DURING the fight
Post by: witchhunter on February 25, 2012, 07:29:39 pm
i just got signed off the roster of Druzhina vs Dhirim. what exactly is the point of taking people off the roster in the middle of a battle and not to reward them with xp anymore? i also checked the roster: i have a higher reliability and performance rating than quite a few people who are still on the roster and with level 29 i shouldnt really be considered low level.
Title: Re: AI Signs you off the roster DURING the fight
Post by: RibaldRon on February 25, 2012, 08:58:18 pm
I was unhired as well, if you're hired you should be given a lot of preference over new people signing up, ESPECIALLY an hour prior to the battle.  People who were hired and (surprise surprise!) didn't show had much worse reliability, and in some cases, even lower performance than I did...

NOW, if the player is in the strat duel server, preference should be given to them if that's even possible.


When there's a full roster,  players do it the smart way, so why not AI?


Another solution: Add backup players to the roster.  They won't be main players but if somebody doesn't  show, D/Cs, gets banned, etc. they can be there to fill in the spots.  This will probably drive up more interest in strat as currently a lot of people are left in the cold due to full rosters/glitches/errors and get frustrated quickly.