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Off Topic => General Off Topic => Topic started by: Formless on February 01, 2012, 05:49:19 am
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Hey Guys
Just saw this on youtube, great bunch on videos. Really good job by the director would love to see a long movie version of this.
The Battle of Stamford Bridge
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QewGV3Xa1ik
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7NS1YA3aac
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiSc3vWIrX8
The Battle of Hastings
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw-jh7PCyVM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfwyyQNfQOw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh2CxWQDxFs
Battle of Fulford: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-YdoIYw5m0
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Nice, I watched the one about Stamford. Good find :)
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Oh yes! I was planning to post these in the historical movies thread, they are the best non-fiction recreation of historical battles I've seen.
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These were really great, thanks for the find.
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Indeed. Too bad the English were so cowardice in their methods, shameful display.
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Indeed. Too bad the English were so cowardice in their methods, shameful display.
The English were and still are hard as fuck son, a tiny Island that fought with many invaders and because of that we became one of the most powerful nations in the world, none of you scruffy vikings bastards have "Great" before your country name. :lol:
The English beat the Viking invaders at Stamford then had to march all the way down south to fight a powerful Norman invading force, which was the most brutal battle in written history at that time.
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The English beat the Viking invaders at Stamford then had to march all the way down south to fight a powerful Norman invading force, which was the most brutal battle in written history at that time.
A battle, marching well over 200miles in less than 3 weeks, followed by another battle. Those guys were tough. No real surprise they lost after such a hard few weeks and considering the majority of nobles had died in both battles.
Anyway I can't watch this because it's by Channel 4 who youtube block in the UK...friggin copyright.
I went to Battle not long ago (the village at the site of the battle of hastings) and it's quite interesting to see the place.
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The English were and still are hard as fuck son, a tiny Island that fought with many invaders and because of that we became one of the most powerful nations in the world, none of you scruffy vikings bastards have "Great" before your country name. :lol:
The English beat the Viking invaders at Stamford then had to march all the way down south to fight a powerful Norman invading force, which was the most brutal battle in written history at that time.
These Anglo-Saxons were cousins of the Vikings themselves, descendents of Danes and North Germanic tribes going 'viking' in the West generations before, like Rolf's men in Normandy now facing invaders not dissimilar to their close ancestors and afterwards Duke William II's 'Normans'; the other Viking descendents.
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I'd like to see more docufilms like this one.
I for one, enjoy these much more, than Hollywood epics, or made-up stuff like 300.
:wink:
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These Anglo-Saxons were cousins of the Vikings themselves, descendents of Danes and North Germanic tribes going 'viking' in the West generations before, like Rolf's men in Normandy now facing invaders not dissimilar to their close ancestors and afterwards Duke William II's 'Normans'; the other Viking descendents.
Anglo-Saxons were not 'vikings' ( which is a stupid term because it actually means Pirate or something like that ), some of them may have had scandinavian blood in them, as did many cultures in western/northern europe, but to generalise and say Anglo-Saxons were descendants of scandinavians is false, some people may have had scandinavian descendants, but that doesn't really have anything to do with the subject.
English is a Germanic language influenced by some outside factors, Britons resided on the Island and the Angles, Saxons and other Germanic tribes settled in the south-east of England, integration obviously occured and the bloods were mixed, the language formed and we became HARD AS NAILS SON.
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Fuck you Channel 4, i wanna watch... :mad:
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Anglo-Saxons were not 'vikings' ( which is a stupid term because it actually means Pirate or something like that ), some of them may have had scandinavian blood in them, as did many cultures in western/northern europe, but to generalise and say Anglo-Saxons were descendants of scandinavians is false, some people may have had scandinavian descendants, but that doesn't really have anything to do with the subject.
English is a Germanic language influenced by some outside factors, Britons resided on the Island and the Angles, Saxons and other Germanic tribes settled in the south-east of England, integration obviously occured and the bloods were mixed, the language formed and we became HARD AS NAILS SON.
Lol :lol:
Obviously Anglo-Saxons were not 'vikings' in the same sense but they did have tons of "viking blood" in them as well as Angles/Saxon blood.
The original people, Britons, who after the Romans retreated in 400AD suffered from European invasions of all kinds, the Angles came from northern Germany, Saxons from Lower Saxony, and Danes from Jutland (Back then "Jutes from the Jutland Peninsula").
They actually did a test in a Channel 4 documentary some years ago on people who thought they were 100% English (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0907295/), needless to say no one were and the connections to all over Europe (and global) was quite astounding, so astounding that actually people had more in common with those overseas than their next-door neighbor.
100% English (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0907295/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0907295/))
Take eight people. All of them born in England. All of them white. All of them convinced they are 100% English. Convince them to provide a sample of their DNA. Then submit it to a series of state of the art DNA tests; and some of them will be in for a shock when they discover just how English they really are. "I was born in England. I was born English, my parents were English, my grandparents were English and their parents were English and it goes back and back, so I am English through and through," says comedian Danny Blue. A prime-minister's daughter, a peer of the realm, a tabloid journalist, a lawyer, a country lady, a trainee soldier, a stand-up comic and a woman who works in the fishing industry: all of them are convinced they come from solid Anglo-Saxon stock. With the help of cutting edge DNA analysis, 100% English reveals the secrets of their hidden origins which cover most of the globe.
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Point proven is that unlike your countries, we aren't inbred.
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Lol :lol:
Obviously Anglo-Saxons were not 'vikings' in the same sense but they did have tons of "viking blood" in them as well as Angles/Saxon blood.
The original people, Britons, who after the Romans retreated in 400AD suffered from European invasions of all kinds, the Angles came from northern Germany, Saxons from Lower Saxony, and Danes from Jutland (Back then "Jutes from the Jutland Peninsula").
They actually did a test in a Channel 4 documentary some years ago on people who thought they were 100% English (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0907295/), needless to say no one were and the connections to all over Europe (and global) was quite astounding, so astounding that actually people had more in common with those overseas than their next-door neighbor.
100% English (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0907295/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0907295/))
I'm not disputing the fact that we aren't mixed heavily from all over the European continent, my last name is a transformation over time of an old Scandinavian name, which also has a variation in France, which suggests it came over with Scandinavian Settlers. I also know I am not 100% English, because of what I learned about my family name and where it came from and also because I know that I also have Roma Gypsy, Greek, Hungarian, and German blood in me aswell as my other ancient bloods.
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I'd like to know what blood i have in me, only thing i know, the Irish in me is dying for a pint... :shock:
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Well you can trace my mothers family name right back to a Danish noble family in the 13th century (something like that). There's even an old ruined manor house from the same period with that family name relatively near to where the family were traditionally located.
Sure Britain has been invaded in the past. But it hasn't properly for a VERY long time. Meaning that '100% English' people can trace their families back a very long way (woo for ridiculous record keeping as well).
Regardless, when you take population expansion into consideration ect, then it's argued that the majority of us will have some connection to a singular historical figure if you go back far enough. The family connection may be very loose, but somewhere along the line it'll connect.
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Well either way we all came out of Africa to begin with :wink:
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I'd like to know what blood i have in me, only thing i know, the Irish in me is dying for a pint... :shock:
Lol, I know my bloods simply through what I have learned through my own family, i.e things like one of my Great grandmothers called Matilda being a Roma Gypsy from Spain. One of my Great Grandfathers was a Greek man who was with the British airforce as a bomber crew member in WW2. I don't remember much of him because he died when I was very young but I do remember one of his legs from the knee cap down was a prosphetic wooden and metal construction, and it made squeaky noises sometimes, my grandmother told me that a bullet from a Luftwaffe plane had come through the side of his aircraft and basically blew the lower part of his leg off.
What I learned about my family name took me hours and hours of research and there are multiple possibilities in most cases and in some cases peoples names are too common to track anything.
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HARD AS NAILS SON.
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Then we have Americans, Englands awesome and superior cousins!
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Anglo-Saxons were not 'vikings' ( which is a stupid term because it actually means Pirate or something like that ), some of them may have had scandinavian blood in them, as did many cultures in western/northern europe, but to generalise and say Anglo-Saxons were descendants of scandinavians is false, some people may have had scandinavian descendants, but that doesn't really have anything to do with the subject.
English is a Germanic language influenced by some outside factors, Britons resided on the Island and the Angles, Saxons and other Germanic tribes settled in the south-east of England, integration obviously occured and the bloods were mixed, the language formed and we became HARD AS NAILS SON.
I said gone 'viking' in the West as 'viking' is in the archaeological record (runestones mainly) also used as a verb, something you do (ie. engage in piracy and raiding), and not only as a noun.
Angles and Saxons and Jutes followed the tradition of sailing West to the rich British Isles generations before the Danes and Norwegians (and a few Swedes and Balts) did so in the Viking Age, and as far as we know more or less displaced the local Celtic peoples (also Roman italic people, Romano-British and those from the faraway Eastern Provinces who had served in the legions stationed in Roman Britain), pushing them North and East, though certainly intermingling happened on some scale or another.
But part of my point was that Harald Godwinson's huscarls have more in common (genetically and culturally) with the invading Vikings than you or for example Victorian British have with the Anglo-Saxons of this time, many of them had come from the same areas and only few generations before, where British people of today have since had about a 1000 years of increasing genetic exposure.
This was not to provoke nationalism but rather to establish that the men fighting in above videos were all closely related and the interesting historical dynamics of the region of the time.
Former invaders (Anglo-Saxons), some of whom were pushed from the Jutland peninsular by invading Danes, were now defending their relatively newly-won territory against invaders from home, be it Danes, Norwegians or Normans, the latter themselves originally Viking invaders who after defending Normandy from their Viking kin now suddenly taking to invasion and west-ward expansion once more.
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Norman horse archers...
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So errr, a documentary about an English battle is blocked in my country?
im in England btw