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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Realism Discussion => Topic started by: Rumblood on January 29, 2012, 03:19:29 pm

Title: Horse's neck as good as the head?
Post by: Rumblood on January 29, 2012, 03:19:29 pm
I propose that a ranged shot to the horse's neck ought to be as good as a headshot. Pony has to breathe to run and a bodkin through the windpipe ruins that right quickly.  :idea:

(But anyhow, the horse head hitbox seems too small)
Title: Re: Horse's neck as good as the head?
Post by: Overdriven on January 29, 2012, 03:20:19 pm
A ranged shot to anywhere on the head should be a headshot. It only really counts on the nose. Even if you hit it dead centre of the skull...it doesn't register as a headshot  :|
Title: Re: Horse's neck as good as the head?
Post by: Lorenzo_of_Iberia on January 29, 2012, 08:42:46 pm
Front of the Neck, Ears, any part of the head should count as a headshot

This needs to stop :

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Title: Re: Horse's neck as good as the head?
Post by: B3RS3RK on January 29, 2012, 10:59:09 pm
Unicorn Racists.
Title: Re: Horse's neck as good as the head?
Post by: MeevarTheMighty on January 30, 2012, 07:42:29 am
It should also do more damage to hit a pedestrian right in the heart or genitals and he shouldn't be able to use his limbs once they take damage.

Another thing, why doesn't trampling ever register as a headshot? =(

The game has limitations and a horse's head is huge.
Title: Re: Horse's neck as good as the head?
Post by: Vibe on January 30, 2012, 07:45:28 am
But is it possible?
Title: Re: Horse's neck as good as the head?
Post by: MeevarTheMighty on January 30, 2012, 08:54:13 am
Pretty sure it is possible (or it wouldn't be possible to add new horses afaik, which it is), but it doesn't make much sense.
Title: Re: Horse's neck as good as the head?
Post by: Overdriven on January 30, 2012, 06:57:38 pm
It makes plenty of sense to have a head act like a head  :? Hitting a moving horses head is still hard. But right now the headshot on a horse is limited right to the very end of the nose. Sometimes arrows also go straight through the main skull of the horse as well they are so buggy (tested on stationary horses).

Even this didn't count as a head shot:

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Title: Re: Horse's neck as good as the head?
Post by: MeevarTheMighty on January 31, 2012, 02:56:38 am
You're right, that is a bit odd and should probably be fixed (if you're sure it didn't count... I can't see how it possibly couldn't because the arrow hit and there's no reason to have a body hitbox extending that far).

The OP doesn't talk about though. This topic is about extending the headshot hitbox to the neck, which would be stupid, because there is no brain in the horse neck and the respiratory and circulatory systems are based in the chest, not the neck.

I don't think it's so hard to hit a horse head; it's about the size of a human chest and movement speed should not be a serious obstacle to your accuracy. Worry about acceleration/manouevrability, which believe it or not, infantry has in spades.
Title: Re: Horse's neck as good as the head?
Post by: Tennenoth on January 31, 2012, 12:17:22 pm
Gotta aim between the eyes!  :rolleyes:

(When I get home I will get a screenshot of the bones of the horse to see if it's where the "head" hit box actually is, unless someone else here has access to all of that anyway.
Title: Re: Horse's neck as good as the head?
Post by: Rumblood on January 31, 2012, 06:15:52 pm
Quote from: MeevarTheMighty on January 31, 2012, 02:56:38 am
The OP doesn't talk about though. This topic is about extending the headshot hitbox to the neck, which would be stupid, because there is no brain in the horse neck and the respiratory and circulatory systems are based in the chest, not the neck.

Take your fist and stick it in your throat, then try to utilize those chest based respiratory and circulatory systems without the neck providing a passage  :lol:


In reality the horses head is a hell of a lot bigger than portrayed in game by the hitbox (not the graphics).
Title: Re: Horse's neck as good as the head?
Post by: MeevarTheMighty on February 01, 2012, 01:59:22 am
I don't think that would impede my circulatory system as much as you think, but my point was that shots to the heart and lungs don't do extra damage, so it's senseless to make their peripheries do extra damage.
Title: Re: Horse's neck as good as the head?
Post by: Rumblood on February 01, 2012, 10:08:14 pm
Quote from: MeevarTheMighty on February 01, 2012, 01:59:22 am
I don't think that would impede my circulatory system as much as you think, but my point was that shots to the heart and lungs don't do extra damage, so it's senseless to make their peripheries do extra damage.

This is the realism board. Rather than making that statement you should have posted a topic demanding greater damage for heart and lung shots!  :lol:
Title: Re: Horse's neck as good as the head?
Post by: Lorenzo_of_Iberia on February 01, 2012, 10:26:13 pm
Lungs and heart are generally far more protected than arteries and air ways of the neck :P

Tbh realism is more of a troll board ;)
Title: Re: Horse's neck as good as the head?
Post by: MeevarTheMighty on February 04, 2012, 02:01:25 am
More protected? A sword or arrow can find either without much trouble. We need individual hitboxes for the spine, sternum and all of the ribs, of course, but your inner neck isn't just a huge torrent of blood.
Title: Re: Horse's neck as good as the head?
Post by: Aleskander on February 18, 2012, 02:51:35 am
Do this and remove the ears. I hate having my horse die because some crossbowman decided to give him a stylish piercing mid-battle.
Title: Re: Horse's neck as good as the head?
Post by: Penguin on February 18, 2012, 05:19:33 am
This has really bothered me. Why is the head hitbox on the tip of the nose making an axe or bolt that directly penetrates the skull do zilch? I've been seeing quite a few "unicorns" as I like to call them prancing around lately with bodkins and other ranged items protruding from their brains.

For whoever made the horse hitbox, here is a helpful diagram:

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