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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: HarunYahya on January 27, 2012, 11:04:30 pm

Title: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on January 27, 2012, 11:04:30 pm
Hello cRPG community !
We wanted to contribute cRPG with some more islamic armor that we lack,then we contacted Zimke from taleworlds forums .
We found some reference pictures together and he converted those pictures into 3d models perfectly !
Now he's part of our community aswell he started playing cRPG.
Im here to present you Turkish/Arabian armors that Zimke Zlovoljni made for us !
Hope you'll like it.

First of all i'll give you pics of armours and their reference pictures  that you gonna vote in the poll then some ingame screenshots ;)

Reference Pictures and 3d Models

Bashibazouk Set
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Deli Khazaghand
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Heavy Yawshan
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Sipahi Jawshan
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Turban Helmet types
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Turban Helmets are edited versions of Zimke's old Turban Helmets that used in Age of Change mod.
Çarık/Rawhide Shoes is basically from Narf's shoes , edited by Zimke.
All others armors are brand new .
Zimke tried to make them as close as possible to reference pictures.

In-Game Screenshots
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Hope you guys like them and we all be able to wear them in game.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors (Under construction.)
Post by: Ujin on January 27, 2012, 11:08:28 pm
 i know what you're gonna post here =). Just don't make the poll so biased ;) .
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors (Under construction.)
Post by: wayyyyyne on January 27, 2012, 11:09:42 pm
Lemme bet: Something related to the ottoman empire..?
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors (Under construction.)
Post by: HarunYahya on January 27, 2012, 11:19:41 pm
Lemme bet: Something related to the ottoman empire..?
Ofc not it's related to martians =P

i know what you're gonna post here =). Just don't make the poll so biased ;) .
I can't promise  :oops:
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Ujin on January 28, 2012, 12:01:10 am
really like the heavy ottoman armors ,free bump. =)
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on January 28, 2012, 12:04:58 am
Unbiased poll added  :wink:
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: B3RS3RK on January 28, 2012, 12:07:42 am
Therea re some really nice armors I´d love to see ingame.The heavy ones and the Clothing.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Tonyukuk on January 28, 2012, 12:12:59 am
At least ;those are so good :)
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Mustikki on January 28, 2012, 12:20:59 am
I think those look really nice!  :D

And its only a good thing to get more good looking items on the game!
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Adamar on January 28, 2012, 12:21:45 am
Anything with lots of maille on is good.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Lactose_the_intolerant on January 28, 2012, 12:37:54 am
There are quite a lot of turkish stuff imo, but i have to say that the heavy ones look really epic and i want to see them in
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Prpavi on January 28, 2012, 12:45:55 am
All of them its allways nice to have new armor to shoose from.

Great job m8.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on January 28, 2012, 01:12:34 am
There are quite a lot of turkish stuff imo, but i have to say that the heavy ones look really epic and i want to see them in
Ah c'mon , Ottoman empire was a vast empire.
Ottomans joined all Muslim states into their Empire therefore Ottomans were the only state to fight "infidel" europe.
Do not think of Ottoman Empire as a country like France or England or Venice .
We have TOO MANY european armours in cRPG.I do like it. Variation is always good in my opinion . You said "There are too many Turkish armors" which is wrong , they are Ottoman/Seljuk armors both are empires that had combined cultures,not only turkish.  Since cRPG has no designated time period but they accept stuff from 12-16th century we can accept that half of the known world were under Ottoman Empire's rule .
Now do not tell me representing that vast Empire with 5-7 armors is enough .
I accept all critics about addition of those armours but "There are too many Ottoman armors already." i do not accept that sentence.
I can count how many european style,russian style and ottoman style items this mod has if you push me so hard.You would be amazed by numbers.  :wink:
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: BattalGazi on January 28, 2012, 01:36:13 am
What ? Biased ?
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: sefa66 on January 28, 2012, 01:36:47 am
Look's great!
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Lactose_the_intolerant on January 28, 2012, 01:39:03 am
but this is not a critic. for me, poor uncivilized european, those armors are a bit from the "same area". And saying that the ottoman empire was vast is no way an argument to saying that they should have more items in crpg  :D

but dont get me wrong, thos two heavy armors look really cool and i would love to see them in game ( and euro armors look kinda weak methinks)
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: DiagonaL on January 28, 2012, 01:46:10 am
Looks Great I really love this items ı want to see them in game  8-)
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: BattalGazi on January 28, 2012, 01:49:48 am
The deli outfit for the world !!!!

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PS: koyama ekle bunları referansa
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on January 28, 2012, 01:59:09 am
but this is not a critic. for me, poor uncivilized european, those armors are a bit from the "same area". And saying that the ottoman empire was vast is no way an argument to saying that they should have more items in crpg  :D

but dont get me wrong, thos two heavy armors look really cool and i would love to see them in game ( and euro armors look kinda weak methinks)
Ah c'mon we have a communication fail i think.
Why would i call you "poor uncivilized european" lol ?
Those armors are from the "same army" .
They should have more items in cRPG because we , bashibazouks have 60 players ; because of lack of items we are wearing Heraldic Transitional and poorly textured / old native models of islamic armors like mamluke mail , cavalary robe , sarranid mail shirt.
We are not the only clan that has an islamic theme.
If your clan has a european theme , you have vast variations of armors to select.
Scales from Gambesons to Plates .

If you are roleplaying islamic theme,
You have only :
1-Worn Desert Robe
2-Skirmisher Armor
3-Sarranid Padded Vest
4-Sarranid Leather Armor
5-Cavalary Robe
6-Sarranid Mail Shirt
7-Sarranid Guard Armor
8-Mamluke Mail
9-Sarranid Elite Armor

Those are all old native models.
Trying to form a dresscode from 9 variations is hard =)

Bashibazouks is not the only clan that roleplays islamic states/armies/empires
We all wear those 9 armors.
I counted all body armors , we have 144 in total.

You are saying to me that 9 armors out of 144 are too much that is why your sentence is unacceptable for me .
It is not that i belittle europe when i say "ottoman was ruling half of the world that times" i wanted to say that there was a big historic force that gives people urge to roleplay it but there are no enough materials.

I hope i made myself clear this time.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Lactose_the_intolerant on January 28, 2012, 02:13:47 am
we have a slight misunderstanding, i said same area, not army! :)

but anyway, this is not a thread to discuss this kind of stuff and i really couldnt be bothered. dont want to derail your thread and i hope to see those heavy armors in game  8-)
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: farthammer on January 28, 2012, 02:27:29 am
The "Sipahi Jawshan" armor looks really, really awesome. I would absolutely love to have that in game.
The rest is nice as well, but that heavy armor is just rad as hell!
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on January 28, 2012, 02:33:01 am
we have a slight misunderstanding, i said same area, not army! :)

but anyway, this is not a thread to discuss this kind of stuff and i really couldnt be bothered. dont want to derail your thread and i hope to see those heavy armors in game  8-)
Thanks for your kindness and comments , im not going to continue this discussion aswell  :)
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on January 28, 2012, 02:41:59 am
jihad needs your support! "yes" for new jihad equipment! allah wills it, hurka durka!
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Froto_the_Loc on January 28, 2012, 03:46:09 am
They all look fantastic, really like the bashibazouk clothes.
There should definitely be more armor types in cRPG, because I'm sick of seeing kuyak after kuyak, black lamellar after black lamellar.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HUtH on January 28, 2012, 03:49:48 am
I really like Bashibazouk Set, there aren't many nicely looking light armours in the game...
Sipahi Yawshan and helmets are also nice.

But these Deli and heavy Yawshan armours....  they're too exotic imho (and Deli looks trollish :P)

eh, I'd like to see some western half-plate(or transitional, whatever) armours with tabards from late medieval with medium-high stats and cost... there's too much XIII and XIV century mail stuff
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Butan on January 28, 2012, 04:06:19 am
Too much beard.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on January 28, 2012, 05:46:48 am
Too much beard.
Man up.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Oggrinsky on January 28, 2012, 07:38:58 am
Personally, I would love to wear these armors into battle.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Malaclypse on January 28, 2012, 07:50:37 am
These look very polished and would add some nice variations.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Oberyn on January 28, 2012, 08:19:29 am
Cool armors and they should be added, and I look forward to using them but you're not "roleplaying" Islamic theme. The Templars are actually roleplaying because, you know, they're not religious in RL, and their in game religion is a joke about chadz being the Creator, and they mostly make fun of the fanaticism of the knightly religious orders. Whereas a lot of you guys obviously are religious, and you unironically bring in real life religious bullshit in a game.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Vicious666 on January 28, 2012, 09:02:01 am
i need a kebab
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Noctivagant on January 28, 2012, 09:16:09 am
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Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: _Tak_ on January 28, 2012, 09:54:56 am
finally crusaders vs the arab
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Mtemtko on January 28, 2012, 10:00:01 am
More ottoman empire related items. Yay. I'm so excited.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Dede on January 28, 2012, 10:15:43 am
Whereas a lot of you guys obviously are religious, and you unironically bring in real life religious bullshit in a game.
If you got that impression, then they are probably better "roleplaying". I've spent much time in TS so far, and dont remember even one guy being political religious. Not even back when turkish Clans where not splitted.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Kafein on January 28, 2012, 10:30:05 am
Cool stuff :D


However, the helmets need tweaking. Currently, they are "too big" for the heads of characters and the eyes end up too high compared to the helmet. People look like children playing with their daddy's armor. The current rus/tangatcha helmets have a similar problem yet they are in the game anyway.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Snoozer on January 28, 2012, 11:09:21 am
i would love these in im not gonna vote in the thing though i feel  i  have no right seeing how i wont wear them(im trying to maintain a uniform for craft reasons)

but what you said earlier about crpg have no time period i  feel is false

even though its true there a varying ages of each armor some excessively old  too "new" i remember them saying if something feels out of place they wont let it in(i believe it was Greek/roman based armors they would not allow in)

i do not think you will have the same problem just be prepared there uniform natzi's about it even though to me its illogical seeing how we have ninjas vs samurai vs conquistador vs knights vs lots n lots of trolls lol
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Zimke Zlovoljni on January 28, 2012, 11:11:46 am
Ingame screens:
http://www.mediafire.com/?vgni5fb8zbbbpyb (http://www.mediafire.com/?vgni5fb8zbbbpyb)
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: robert_namo on January 28, 2012, 11:22:45 am
im iraqi and i approve this thread.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: dodnet on January 28, 2012, 11:29:09 am
Some are nice but I dont like the Deli Khazaghand - it looks too much like a modern jeans army jacket (except that pelt).
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on January 28, 2012, 12:29:58 pm
Cool armors and they should be added, and I look forward to using them but you're not "roleplaying" Islamic theme. The Templars are actually roleplaying because, you know, they're not religious in RL, and their in game religion is a joke about chadz being the Creator, and they mostly make fun of the fanaticism of the knightly religious orders. Whereas a lot of you guys obviously are religious, and you unironically bring in real life religious bullshit in a game.

u le mad monsieur? i am fucking agnostic irl, but here i roleplay jihad. that doesn't make me a mullah irl.

stop le bullshit s'il te plait, allah doesn't will it...

ingame screens:
http://www.mediafire.com/?vgni5fb8zbbbpyb (http://www.mediafire.com/?vgni5fb8zbbbpyb)

oh hello zimke, welcome to the c-rpg forums :D

Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: cmp on January 28, 2012, 01:18:35 pm
Armors got accepted, now balancers are working on the stats.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Xant on January 28, 2012, 01:22:37 pm
Motherfucker, I hope you're joking.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on January 28, 2012, 01:42:12 pm
Armors got accepted, now balancers are working on the stats.

TIME FOR PAR-TEY!

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Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Gnjus on January 28, 2012, 01:47:13 pm
Why even bothering with all the equipment diversity if we know that it will just end as Christianity vs Islam big battle, we might as well just equip either heraldics with crosses or mameluke mails and slaughter each other like that.  :wink:

Remove weeaboos and all that other shit and lets just have Strategos Crusades.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: BattalGazi on January 28, 2012, 01:51:32 pm
Armors got accepted, now balancers are working on the stats.

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Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Gloin on January 28, 2012, 02:51:38 pm
Armors got accepted, now balancers are working on the stats.

Love you, kind sir.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Shadowren on January 28, 2012, 03:16:21 pm
Nice armor +1
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Joker86 on January 28, 2012, 03:38:54 pm
If we get Muslim armours for roleplaying muslims, I want crusader armours, too. Templars, Hospitallers (both the black coats from pre-1259 and the red ones from after this year), Teutonics, Knights of the Holy Sepulcher, Knights of St. Lazarus, Knights of St. Thomas of Acre, Knights of Santiago, Knights of Alcántara, Knights of Calatrava, or the Sword Brethren.

Armors got accepted, now balancers are working on the stats.

I would appreciate it if you already prepared the proper images for the website BEFORE you implement the items. And, of course, add the images for the items that got introduced weeks ago and still all look like a white square with a red cross on it...  :?
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Paul on January 28, 2012, 03:51:00 pm
If you want certain models in cRPG, make them.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Dezilagel on January 28, 2012, 03:51:24 pm
If we get Muslim armours for roleplaying muslims, I want crusader armours, too. Templars, Hospitallers (both the black coats from pre-1259 and the red ones from after this year), Teutonics, Knights of the Holy Sepulcher, Knights of St. Lazarus, Knights of St. Thomas of Acre, Knights of Santiago, Knights of Alcántara, Knights of Calatrava, or the Sword Brethren.

Make some models then  :rolleyes:


EDIT: Whoops
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: BattalGazi on January 28, 2012, 03:59:58 pm
If we get Muslim armours for roleplaying muslims, I want crusader armours, too.

As if there's none already ...

Btw these armors are not specifically "Muslim" armors, they are typical armors used widely in eastern factions. Yea, eastern factions have pretty obvious Islamic culture but these armors do not represent an outfit only worn in specific purposes or events such as crusades. On the contrary, these armors represent the outfit of eastern factions spanning through a long time period.

Do not tag this addition as a "Jihad over infidels in the west!!!" please.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on January 28, 2012, 04:05:42 pm
I loled at Oberyn thinking all of us are mujahideens irl .  :lol:
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: BattalGazi on January 28, 2012, 04:07:52 pm
I loled at Oberyn thinking all of us are mujahideens irl .  :lol:

Seems like we did a pretty good job in roleplaying :twisted: I blame media for this ...
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Joker86 on January 28, 2012, 04:13:14 pm
Actually I would already be satisfied if some new textures to existing mails with surcoats would be added. Entirely new modles would not be needed, as well as the assisstance of the unbalancing team  :P .

I just don't like the fact that we have armours added for weaboos, Vikings, Russians and Turks, but except of a few plate armours and a few different colours for surcoats there is nothing new (compared to Native) for players who like the western European style. Yes, a few helmets were added, but these were either plate (like all western armour would only be plate and vice versa  :rolleyes: ) or are coloured, so if you care about your look the coloured helmets don't fit to all armours. And the choice of helmets for western players was already decent, but I feel a lack of pretty western armours...  :?

Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Teeth on January 28, 2012, 04:20:58 pm
Actually I would already be satisfied if some new textures to existing mails with surcoats would be added. Entirely new modles would not be needed, as well as the assisstance of the unbalancing team  :P .

I just don't like the fact that we have armours added for weaboos, Vikings, Russians and Turks, but except of a few plate armours and a few different colours for surcoats there is nothing new (compared to Native) for players who like the western European style. Yes, a few helmets were added, but these were either plate (like all western armour would only be plate and vice versa  :rolleyes: ) or are coloured, so if you care about your look the coloured helmets don't fit to all armours. And the choice of helmets for western players was already decent, but I feel a lack of pretty western armours...  :?
Western armours already were in Native mostly, so other cultures got added to make a complete package. There are plenty of western armours in the game, they have just lost their novelty value. Really, count them, they are probably the biggest culture armour group.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Ujin on January 28, 2012, 04:26:19 pm
Actually I would already be satisfied if some new textures to existing mails with surcoats would be added. Entirely new modles would not be needed, as well as the assisstance of the unbalancing team  :P .

weaboos, Vikings, Russians and Turks, but except of a few plate armours and a few different colours for surcoats there is nothing new (compared to
Weeaboos with a capital W, fool.  :wink:
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Prpavi on January 28, 2012, 04:29:45 pm

Remove weeaboos and all that other shit ...

Dont make me Gnjuspalm u brah...
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Frankysan on January 28, 2012, 04:31:11 pm
Dont make me Gnjuspalm u brah...
for you would be good news, free point to spend :P
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Oberyn on January 28, 2012, 04:46:12 pm
I loled at Oberyn thinking all of us are mujahideens irl .  :lol:

I blame Safavid XD
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on January 28, 2012, 05:04:50 pm
I blame Safavid XD
Lol that guy is...
Emmmm....
Yeah you are right...
 :lol:
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Christo on January 28, 2012, 05:06:48 pm
Safavid is the shite.

 :)

On topic, I really like the cloth set with turban, and the Jawshan.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Tyrell on January 28, 2012, 05:15:18 pm
If we get Muslim armours for roleplaying muslims, I want crusader armours, too. Templars, Hospitallers (both the black coats from pre-1259 and the red ones from after this year), Teutonics, Knights of the Holy Sepulcher, Knights of St. Lazarus, Knights of St. Thomas of Acre, Knights of Santiago, Knights of Alcántara, Knights of Calatrava, or the Sword Brethren.

I would appreciate it if you already prepared the proper images for the website BEFORE you implement the items. And, of course, add the images for the items that got introduced weeks ago and still all look like a white square with a red cross on it...  :?
This and speaking of armors...someone fix the goddamn heraldic mails.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Smoothrich on January 28, 2012, 05:18:47 pm
look amazing, please add devs
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on January 28, 2012, 05:21:52 pm
look amazing, please add devs
Armors got accepted, now balancers are working on the stats.
:wink:
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Oberyn on January 28, 2012, 05:50:08 pm
Totally using the heavy yawshan on Oberyn :3
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Angantyr on January 28, 2012, 06:04:46 pm
The deli outfit for the world !!!!

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PS: koyama ekle bunları referansa
I reckon they are valid but would you mind posting sources for these three illustrations?

They look very interesting, what for example is that on the forehead of the third soldier from the left in the second picture, is it crobbed hair or some kind of self-mutilation? And is there a special reason or history behind the soldiers mutilating themselves on the third one, some kind of tradition perhaps?


Looking forward to seeing this armor pack in-game, btw, Medieval Eastern styles are very beautiful.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Brrrak on January 28, 2012, 06:14:13 pm
Sheesh, before we know it, we're gonna end up with full deli outfits.

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Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Angantyr on January 28, 2012, 06:21:57 pm
Bashibazouk Set
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Koyama, would you please also post sources for these references? I'm not at all trying to deny their authenticity but a video game picture and two illustrations that looks quite different is hardly very convincing pictorial evidence.

Thank you.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: BattalGazi on January 28, 2012, 06:26:29 pm
I reckon they are valid but would you mind posting sources for these three illustrations?

They look very interesting, what for example is that on the forehead of the third soldier from the left in the second picture, is it crobbed hair? And is there some special reason or history behind the soldiers mutilating themselves on the third one, some kind of tradition perhaps?

Looking forward to seeing this armor pack in-game, btw, Medieval Eastern styles are very beautiful.

Of course.

I have acquired a book on Deli Cavalry, its name is "Deliler" by Abdullah Turhal, here is a link for you:
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. I guess there's no translation of it so far. The author is also owns a shop where he produces miniature soldier models, here is the link for that too:
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I have the images from this book, but the original images are from Austrian National Library / Picture Archive, Vienna.

The rist thing you mention about the man's forehead is horseshoe nails, similar to all other kinds of nails, horseshoes, swords and other weapons. The word "deli" means lunatic/mad in Turkish. The name was given to these cavalry because of their fierce way of fighting the enemy on border lands. They were called so because they were out of protective armor and generally the first to encounter enemy soldiers. According to the book, the Deli cavalry division did not accept recruits easily, you had to kill 8-10 enemy cavalry to show your skills. The reason for such bloody shows was to show off their "state of mind" and "strength" to people and the enemy most importantly. The reason for wearing eagle feathers and wild animal furs also served the same purpose: frighten the enemy.

The third picture shows a group of them in the circumcision ceremony of Sultan Murad III's son, where they present their strength and lack of fear to the sultan. None died because of such acts but it was pretty messy, therefore the same sultan banned them from making such presentations in front of public. However, they did much more against the enemy :)

Thanks for the interest.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Formless on January 28, 2012, 07:45:00 pm
These look great, add them all in.  And add in Greek and Roman armour already devs.  Nice work on the designs.

Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Loar Avel on January 28, 2012, 07:51:36 pm
If you want certain models in cRPG, make them.


Want these

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,145074.0.html
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on January 28, 2012, 09:48:03 pm
Koyama, would you please also post sources for these references? I'm not at all trying to deny their authenticity but a video game picture and two illustrations that looks quite different is hardly very convincing pictorial evidence.

Thank you.
For BashiBazouk Set:
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http://www.totalwar-turkiye.com/twforum/index.php?topic=73166.msg772418#msg772418
This is where i get some reference to find template of bashibazouks
To be honest turban,tunic,şalvar and çarık were the main things to dress if you were an ottoman citizen therefore i didn't dig too much to find more and more reference pictures to convince you.
Here is another one:
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Source:http://cezmyurtsever-filistin.blogspot.com/2010/10/ingiliz-suleymanin-kanal-harekatinda.html

Bashibazouks were leaderless , unorganised , undisciplined , poorly equipped troops.
Some of them even failed to buy a sword therefore charging with just a shield and bare hand.
Do you ever heard the term of "Ottoman Slap" ? Those soldiers trained themselves by slapping marble blocks , they went to war with calloused hands to explode eardrum of their enemy when they slap ! Those guys were wearing whatever they find.They had no salary from Padişah their only salary was their loot on battlefield.Ottoman Empire used these fucked up minded troops to win battles without casualties of trained and well equipped  soldiers.Once those crazy guys attack and kill a few , enemies start to think "Wtf those guys kill us with barehands and no armor, i can't imagine what will happen if the whole army attacks ! Sound the retreat lads ! We are going home !!!"Their job was to terrorize the enemy and that's all.The Deli Khazaghand is an Akinci armor which is kinda mounted bashibazouk.They were even wearing wings (Like Hussars but it's more like crow wings) they were wearing skins and all weird things to scare the enemy .


I can't be bothered to find english references to prove those tbh.If you are interested in you should dig in ;)

If you want some info about what are those i may give you some links:
Çarık/Rawhide Shoes = http://www.osmanlicarik.com/en/index.php
Most of the people that live in southeast anatolia still wear Şalvar(The pant on BashiBazouk Tunic)
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Search for : Angus McBride btw he's the illustrator of most of those pics out there ;)
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Joker86 on January 29, 2012, 12:55:35 am
Search for : Angus McBride btw he's the illustrator of most of those pics out there ;)

No need to do so, many of his pics are to be found here (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,25145.0.html)  :wink:
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on January 29, 2012, 02:47:49 am
No need to do so, many of his pics are to be found here (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,25145.0.html)  :wink:
Wow nice =)
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: mustg on January 29, 2012, 05:22:23 pm
le bump for le armures
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Lizard_man on January 30, 2012, 05:55:42 am
I like everything accept the turban helmets...
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: mustg on January 30, 2012, 11:27:09 am
whats up with the helmets?
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: BattalGazi on January 30, 2012, 05:06:00 pm
Is there an approximate date for the addition? Next patch maybe?
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Lizard_man on January 30, 2012, 05:25:46 pm
whats up with the helmets?

Well, i imagen there's a turban under there, but i just don't like these helmets that look really huge, but as i said, the rest look great...
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Angantyr on January 30, 2012, 05:33:29 pm
Thank you koyama and BattalGazi.

I have in the past read up on different branches of the Ottoman army but these interesting self-mutilation rituals of the Deli have escaped me. Reminds me a bit of the tales from WW1 about Turkish soldiers collecting ears of their enemy's fallen to make into necklaces. I know many (most probably) armies throughout history have had this kind of trophy hunting (see for example the many examples of US soldiers doing this in Iraq, Afghanistan and particularly Vietnam), but it's supposed to have been especially wide-spread among Turks in WW1 (though it may have been over-emphasized by Western historians my source is neutral Danish doctors and nurses).
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: BattalGazi on January 30, 2012, 05:49:37 pm
Thank you koyama and BattalGazi.

I have in the past read up on different branches of the Ottoman army but these interesting self-mutilation rituals of the Deli have escaped me. Reminds me a bit of the tales from WW1 about Turkish soldiers collecting ears of their enemy's fallen to make into necklaces. I know many (most probably) armies throughout history have had this kind of trophy hunting (see for example the many examples of US soldiers doing this in Iraq, Afghanistan and particularly Vietnam), but it's supposed to have been especially wide-spread among Turks in WW1 (though it may have been over-emphasized by Western historians my source is neutral Danish doctors and nurses).

Well it is the first time I'm hearing about this ear necklace thing. I have heard of medieval time children stories and prayers in middle europe to frighten people of turks but this is definitely new to me :)
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Angantyr on January 30, 2012, 06:22:31 pm
Ha ha, oh well, at least I can assure you I personally harbour no illusions Turkish soldiers are neither less nor more brutal than soldiers from other places, nor have I ever spend the time to investigate if this phenomenon was well-documented.

It is given that any army with significant combat experience will have its share of bloody traditions.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Captain_Georges on January 31, 2012, 04:14:18 am
put this shit in
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on January 31, 2012, 04:20:50 am
Ha ha, oh well, at least I can assure you I personally harbour no illusions Turkish soldiers are neither less nor more brutal than soldiers from other places, nor have I ever spend the time to investigate if this phenomenon was well-documented.

It is given that any army with significant combat experience will have its share of bloody traditions.
War is war .
I've never heard of turkish soldiers collecting ears from fallen soldiers in WW1 but i've heard the same thing for a turkish private collecting ears from fallen pkk terrorists in late 1990s or early 2000s.Not sure if its real tho but to be honest i don't care.
I don't think that collecting a piece from a death body is worse than killing a living body . Corpse is a corpse if you don't collect ears from it it'll rot anyway but killing a living creature for any reason should be resulted in permaban from universe .
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: JihadistMexican on January 31, 2012, 06:24:25 am
I would love if all of those armors got added to the game. I particularly love the turban with the green tunic.  :)
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Snoozer on January 31, 2012, 06:39:36 am
War is war .
I've never heard of turkish soldiers collecting ears from fallen soldiers in WW1 but i've heard the same thing for a turkish private collecting ears from fallen pkk terrorists in late 1990s or early 2000s.Not sure if its real tho but to be honest i don't care.
I don't think that collecting a piece from a death body is worse than killing a living body . Corpse is a corpse if you don't collect ears from it it'll rot anyway but killing a living creature for any reason should be resulted in permaban from universe .
it depends on the reason, im not justifying  all murder its just sometimes one does not have the choice
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: BattalGazi on January 31, 2012, 02:34:55 pm
For the love of ear necklaces, we want to see these armors quite soon !!
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on February 01, 2012, 04:26:57 am
Why it takes too long to agree on stats of those armors ?
It's simple give them 9 weight and 70 defence ......
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Fartface on February 01, 2012, 10:05:29 am
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Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Tzar on February 01, 2012, 10:14:22 am
Wearing turbans should grant the user splash dmg on death to take out as many infidels as possible  :mrgreen:

Btw nice heavy armors dont like the pyjamas tho...  :P
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on February 02, 2012, 04:50:19 am
Wearing turbans should grant the user splash dmg on death to take out as many infidels as possible  :mrgreen:

Btw nice heavy armors dont like the pyjamas tho...  :P
Alas i lured the boobs of epicness into this thread !

Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: v/onMega on February 02, 2012, 07:49:28 am
Looking good to me, basiclly 2 kuyak reworks that look good and the yellow mail jacket that looks unique.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Snoozer on February 02, 2012, 08:22:06 am
Alas i lured the boobs of epicness into this thread !


go to his sell page in the marketplace......i was surprised by committed he is to these to say the least
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on February 02, 2012, 11:26:35 pm
he is to these to say the least
Wtf is this ?
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: cosmos on February 03, 2012, 12:11:08 am
very nices  armor were is the link? lo
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Zimke Zlovoljni on February 04, 2012, 06:18:54 pm
Looking good to me, basiclly 2 kuyak reworks that look good and the yellow mail jacket that looks unique.
Only pelt is from kuyak (couldn't bother to make something that time consuming), rest is new, you'll see when they add it in game, and thanks ;)
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on February 16, 2012, 07:30:11 am
Fasaderp you lazyass work on those lovely stuff !
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Tindel on February 16, 2012, 07:45:44 am
No more ugly bullshit items please, there is enough crap already :/
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on February 16, 2012, 08:06:33 am
No more ugly bullshit items please, there is enough crap already :/
Indeed , start removing crap from premises of cRPG, start by quitting the game.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Janis_Corp on February 16, 2012, 08:47:55 am
Gj bro , Looks pretty Good +1

deli outfit is complete, which would still be missing is the eagle wings ornamented shield
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Bongo Fury on February 16, 2012, 02:26:57 pm
I like all of it, but especially the yawshan (sp?) because it could possibly add alot of variation in the Kuyak department.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Ujin on February 16, 2012, 03:09:09 pm
I like all of it, but especially the yawshan (sp?) because it could possibly add alot of variation in the Kuyak department.
yawshan looks way heavier than a kuyak imo
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Bongo Fury on February 16, 2012, 03:11:31 pm
yawshan looks way heavier than a kuyak imo

Yeah, on second look i agree with you.

Still hoping for some cool alternatives to Kuyak's in the 6k to 8k range.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on February 16, 2012, 05:06:38 pm
well, now we have the items with the new patch. they look awesome
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: PanPan on February 16, 2012, 05:15:41 pm
I like that fake Rus shoes :)
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: sF_Guardian on February 16, 2012, 05:20:58 pm
Really lovely items, especially the heavy Armors, gonna be my new set when they come in :)



PUT THEM IN NOW, ALL NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW

( Btw, tell that guy who made all this nice armors to rework the Brigandine and Heraldic mails, also want arabian style heraldic stuff )
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Frankysan on February 21, 2012, 07:49:39 pm
when will this pack of armors be added?any clue?
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on February 22, 2012, 04:27:50 am
when will this pack of armors be added?any clue?
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Janis_Corp on February 22, 2012, 07:47:34 am
Why this Need so Long ,European stuff become most a qick  hotfix a week After the presentation, damned racists   :D
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HELM on February 22, 2012, 08:13:48 pm
Good job, the more variation the better. The armors look great, especially the medium yumshaw? with the brown coat on it. cRPG is weighted with European stuff (especially Germanic) as compared to other medieval regions, so this should balance the look a bit.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on February 22, 2012, 08:20:34 pm
You meant heavy yawshan i think.
It is heavier than sipahi jawshan and it's probably heavier than most of the armors in cRPG except plates.
Yawshan = partial plates over chainmail ;)
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Frankysan on February 22, 2012, 11:53:03 pm
my loompoints are starving, how is the balance going? is it a lie or these are already implemented?
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on February 23, 2012, 05:01:35 am
I think devs will release shitloads of items with next patch not only those items that we made .
If your cRPG is up to date , go to modules/cRPG/resources and open Yomans_Helmets,Almansur_Helmets and zimke_crpg with OpenBRF .
You'll understand what i mean ;)
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Frankysan on February 23, 2012, 12:53:11 pm
I think devs will release shitloads of items with next patch not only those items that we made .
If your cRPG is up to date , go to modules/cRPG/resources and open Yomans_Helmets,Almansur_Helmets and zimke_crpg with OpenBRF .
You'll understand what i mean ;)
there are tons of turbans :D
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HELM on February 23, 2012, 10:30:34 pm
You meant heavy yawshan i think.

Yes that's it, I must have it.
I expect you to have a +3 yawshan in the bazouk shop soon after release ;)
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on February 24, 2012, 01:34:26 pm
Yes that's it, I must have it.
I expect you to have a +3 yawshan in the bazouk shop soon after release ;)
Yeap :D
We got the money , already made some agreements with some people who are ready to retire just waiting for devs to add armors  :lol:
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Qilidj_Arslan on February 24, 2012, 04:13:34 pm
Awesome! I won't have to wear the mamluk mail anymore. Good job, especially for the heavy armors.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on February 29, 2012, 10:01:34 am
Y no new patch and addition of these stuff already ...
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Bobthehero on February 29, 2012, 10:07:00 am
Turk stuff sucks, glorious pikeman three quarter plate is best.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Peasant_Woman on February 29, 2012, 10:57:16 am
Mmm, that BashiBazouk Set and Heavy Yawshan and the Full + Aventail turban helmets look amazing. +1 add them nao.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Frankysan on February 29, 2012, 02:28:05 pm
how long yet....  :evil:
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on February 29, 2012, 08:32:49 pm
It's been a month ...
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Hippy on March 01, 2012, 06:40:33 am
Maybe some re-textures of the shitty looking black plate, and samurai would be in order to.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Oggrinsky on March 02, 2012, 07:43:00 am
Please implement these soon so I can go back to being Ghazi_Oggrinsky.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Frankysan on March 02, 2012, 02:13:27 pm
bump for great justice
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Idzo on March 02, 2012, 02:19:21 pm
Franky you bundle of sticks come to steam i need you few things

btw. Fasa dont implement these shitty armors, ty!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on March 02, 2012, 02:26:02 pm
Franky you bundle of sticks come to steam i need you few things

btw. Fasa dont implement these shitty armors, ty!  :mrgreen:
Jebem ti matirnu supak pusi mi kurac !
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Frankysan on March 04, 2012, 06:30:29 pm
ragebump
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: DrTaco on March 04, 2012, 06:37:49 pm
Why are we adding new armors that only say 5 people will use? Give us more fun items. All this other crap is not needed.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Christo on March 04, 2012, 06:38:56 pm
Why are we adding new armors that only say 5 people will use? Give us more fun items. All this other crap is not needed.

inb4 being e-sacrificed to Allah by Turkish members.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: DrTaco on March 04, 2012, 06:45:02 pm
inb4 being e-sacrificed to Allah by Turkish members.

Lord Voldemort will protect me.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Frankysan on March 04, 2012, 06:50:00 pm
Lord Voldemort will protect me.
the worst villain of all times lol
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Teeth on March 04, 2012, 06:52:11 pm
I think devs will release shitloads of items with next patch not only those items that we made .
If your cRPG is up to date , go to modules/cRPG/resources and open Yomans_Helmets,Almansur_Helmets and zimke_crpg with OpenBRF .
You'll understand what i mean ;)
Man there are some killer helmets in the Almansur_Helmets file. Surely hope some of those make it in.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: DrTaco on March 04, 2012, 06:58:00 pm
the worst villain of all times lol

His absent nose guides my path.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on March 06, 2012, 05:33:46 am
Date of POS is January 28th , you know what i mean  :evil: ...
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 06, 2012, 08:51:12 am
ADD THEM NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
or atleast fairly soon
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on March 06, 2012, 01:31:17 pm
ROMAN ARMOUR
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Frankysan on March 06, 2012, 02:04:58 pm
come on how long can it take....
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Zandieer on March 06, 2012, 02:33:20 pm
ROMAN ARMOUR

ROMAN ARMOUR
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on March 06, 2012, 07:00:31 pm
ROMAN ARMOUR
ROMAN ARMOUR
U guys are on the wrong thread  :wink:
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 06, 2012, 08:47:07 pm
U guys are on the wrong thread  :wink:
No YOU'RE in the wrong thread :wink:
this isn't about telling people that they're in the wrong thread it'd about these awesome armors that lazy devs won't add 'cuss they lazy 'n' they hate turks.  :mrgreen:
BTW: The "they hate turks." part has been confirmed by Meow and one other random dev, it's true
/fact.
/fact is a fact.
/fact is a fact is a fact.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on March 06, 2012, 08:58:18 pm
No YOU'RE in the wrong thread :wink:
this isn't about telling people that they're in the wrong thread it'd about these awesome armors that lazy devs won't add 'cuss they lazy 'n' they hate turks.  :mrgreen:
BTW: The "they hate turks." part has been confirmed by Meow and one other random dev, it's true
/fact.
/fact is a fact.
/fact is a fact is a fact.
I hate turks aswell so ? What's the news ?
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 06, 2012, 10:44:15 pm
I hate turks aswell so ? What's the news ?
News is you waz in the wrong thread.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on March 06, 2012, 11:32:16 pm
News is you waz in the wrong thread.
No das ist mein thread !
I should haz my freedom of speech here !
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Tibe on March 08, 2012, 05:52:39 am
The rest are okay, but the heavy Yawshan looks very cool. The coat just makes it so awesome. The Sipahi....I dunno, looks like a slightly different version mamluke mail too me. But the heavy Yawshan definately something I would wear, but not in a turkish style, which I think would work. :P
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on March 08, 2012, 04:41:52 pm
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Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Cicero on March 08, 2012, 07:12:17 pm
Its really not hard to put 6 armours to game we are still waiting for 2 months =(
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Zandieer on March 08, 2012, 07:57:10 pm
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This is because your thread has a serious lack of roman armour! :D
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on March 09, 2012, 09:18:47 am
This is because your thread has a serious lack of roman armour! :D
Well ... damn it !
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on March 10, 2012, 03:28:49 pm
Le bump add those armors instead of changing c-rpg.net's equipments screen to a complicated ugly page !
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on March 12, 2012, 05:25:09 am
One day... one day i'll wear my sipahi jawshan and turban ...
Maybe after few months or years but one day , i will !
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: dado on March 12, 2012, 03:35:59 pm
GIVZ NEWZ ARMORZ !
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: Miley on March 14, 2012, 03:00:50 am
Why is the Deli Khazaghand not blue like the reference? :o
And why does it have pockets? POCKETS ARE A MODERN THING.
Title: Re: [POLL]New armors to be added !
Post by: HarunYahya on March 15, 2012, 07:01:45 am
Why is the Deli Khazaghand not blue like the reference? :o
And why does it have pockets? POCKETS ARE A MODERN THING.
We wanted it to be green instead of blue .
Guess POCKETS ARE NOT A MODERN THING .