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Title: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Jeric on January 24, 2012, 04:19:42 am
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Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Adamar on January 24, 2012, 04:28:14 am
Cav's not so bad...
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Soldier_of_God on January 24, 2012, 04:32:22 am
You, Sir, are no artist.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: PhantomZero on January 24, 2012, 04:39:16 am
Actually, only people spawning with horses should be able to get valour, for only those atop horses are of noble blood.

Filthy peasants trudging around in the mud have no concept of civility or chivalry.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Jeric on January 24, 2012, 04:40:05 am
Cav's not so bad...
Don't tell me there wasn't ever time when you just said, "fuck all cavalry."


You, Sir, are no artist.
LIKEWISE, as I am mentally retarded.

Actually, only people spawning with horses should be able to get valour, for only those atop horses are of noble blood.

Filthy peasants trudging around in the mud have no concept of civility or chivalry.
I am a peasant, with a blacksmith's apron, ankle boots, straw hat, and cudgel; I bought a Plated Charger and sold it because of repair costs for a Destrier. Filthy peasant with no valour, am I?
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Reinhardt on January 24, 2012, 04:47:01 am
You, Sir, are no artist.

This.


Also, I disagree with at least half of the statements made.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: BADPLAYERold on January 24, 2012, 04:48:57 am
Cavalry don't get valour much anyway, i'm pretty sure it's based on how close you are to kills or something like that because when i'm melee I get valour atleast 1/4 the rounds I lose even if i'm doing awful with 0 kills but as Cav i'm lucky if I get valour once a day when i'm doing really well.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Jeric on January 24, 2012, 04:52:49 am
This.


Also, I disagree with at least half of the statements made.

Can you be more specific?
On the first one, with killing the unsuspecting and god-awful, anyone who knows how to block can block cavalry. If you don't, you can jump out of the way, or if there is a couch. The only times I've been killed by cavalry is when I am facing the opposite direction, typing, or fighting someone else (I have a habit of watching my back with the view outfit thing, too).

On the second one, I have rarely seen a cavalry pass up on killing the weakest link over the biggest threat. Myself, I dress as a peasant with a cudgel, because I enjoy playing like that (it's funny). All too many times have I seen cavalry straight up charge through a pike or a crossbow bolt in the effort to stab me, which I could have blocked.

And the delayer one? We both know that more often than not it is the cavalry that makes up the game delayers, and among the cavalry it's the horse archers/crossbowmen.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Oberyn on January 24, 2012, 04:55:26 am
Noob, I'll rape your face head-on and laugh at your pedestrian corpse, I go for high value targets, anything shiny, anything that has a bow, anything that is on a horse. Maybe that's the way you play cav, but you're a scrub.
And cavalry makes up the majority of delayers? What fucking game are you playing? The only cav that delay are HA and HXbow; Guess who delay the most? Archers and xbowmen. Do you see a connection? Fucking moron.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Jeric on January 24, 2012, 04:57:08 am
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Thanks BADPLAYER for this image, which sums up my huge image pretty well. And, as an infantry, I almost never earn valour, but when I snag someone's horse, I get valour if I do well on it; and by "do well," I mean get one kill or more.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Zerran on January 24, 2012, 04:59:42 am
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Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Jeric on January 24, 2012, 05:00:50 am
Noob, I'll rape your face head-on and laugh at your pedestrian corpse, I go for high value targets, anything shiny, anything that has a bow, anything that is on a horse. Maybe that's the way you play cav, but you're a scrub. Incidentally what class do you play?
Thanks for the positive critic on my thread, douche-bag!

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And just so you know I don't suck completely:
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Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Reinhardt on January 24, 2012, 05:01:09 am
Cavalry and HA/HXbowmen are different. They're different classes entirely. Also, Cav hate HA/Hxbowmen.

I'm not too much in the mood to type a huge paragraph, but...

You generalized. Not ALL cav are assholes, or bad, nor do they ALL couch afks. Although, many do. I guess my point is that I am not a team-bumping, afk-couching, cav! Yay?
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Christo on January 24, 2012, 05:02:55 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue_IRWgpojw&feature=related&t=27s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue_IRWgpojw&feature=related&t=27s)
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Oberyn on January 24, 2012, 05:04:40 am
Lol so basically you're a massive leecher, playing with a club and peasant clothes, totally useless to your team? And the pic you choose to plaster in several different threads to show how awesome you are is a 7-5 score?
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Jeric on January 24, 2012, 05:06:48 am
Lol so basically you're a massive leecher, playing with a club and peasant clothes, totally useless to your team?

1. I posted it in one other thread.
2. For a peasant with a cudgel and no armor, it's a pretty good score.
3. How am I a leecher?

To recapitulate,

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Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: BADPLAYERold on January 24, 2012, 05:08:19 am
7-5 is an awful score no matter what you are using. Especially since you are riding a horse.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Oberyn on January 24, 2012, 05:09:59 am
So you barely broke even one round, took a pic, and now parade it around like you're the ultimate fake peasant. Sorry to burst your bubble, a lot of people play with that kind of equip, often to make money, and they're mostly better than you.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Christo on January 24, 2012, 05:10:48 am
Basically, it's your fault.

You don't bring anti-anything equipment to the battlefield. Who the hell could get killed by that peasant club?
Nobody decent. So you hunt easy prey too. Ironic, isn't it?

Then, you QQ about how you get killed while using a totally gimp and ineffective playstyle.
Of course you'll be hunted down and shot this way.

Yet another issue, where the user is the problem.

I don't like to use this in my posting style, but:

l2p.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: BADPLAYERold on January 24, 2012, 05:14:19 am
Also you are a terrible troll and ScRuB.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Torben on January 24, 2012, 05:20:52 am
edit:  fuck it.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Jeric on January 24, 2012, 05:21:06 am
7-5 is an awful score no matter what you are using. Especially since you are riding a horse.

1. I did better than forty-four other players on my team. That's well over half. Not so awful.
2. I was riding a sumpter; I can imagine that, while wielding a cudgel, it would probably only make me easier to be killed.

So you barely broke even one round, took a pic, and now parade it around like you're the ultimate fake peasant. Sorry to burst your bubble, a lot of people play with that kind of equip, often to make money, and they're mostly better than you.
1. Tell me how you grade whether other cudgel-peasant players are better than me or not.
2. How am I a fake peasant?
3. "Broke even one round?" What?

Basically, it's your fault.

You don't bring anti-anything equipment to the battlefield. Who the hell could get killed by that peasant club?
Nobody decent. So you hunt easy prey too. Ironic, isn't it?

Then, you QQ about how you get killed while using a totally gimp and ineffective playstyle.
Of course you'll be hunted down and shot this way.

Yet another issue, where the user is the problem.

I don't like to use this in my posting style, but:

l2p.
This is a generalization, based on what I have observed from my own experiences and those of others. I realize I don't bring any anti-cavalry equipment, but that is irrelevant because I know how to block a cavalry hit, I know how to avoid a couch, and I know how to avoid a charge. However, what applies to all players, is that they can't be constantly watching their back while dealing with people in front of them; unsuspected kill. Not all players have shields to block cavalry archers. And who could get killed by the cudgel? Doubtlessly you won't trust anything I write down without photo evidence because you're disagreeing with me, but I have killed tin-cans and experienced fighters.
I'm not crying about cavalry; I'm saying that, since there is no honor in fighting as cavalry (no one has gone out to that point yet, which was basically the main point of the whole thread; you've all just been attacking me for being 'bad,'), they should not be awarded valour. As I stated before, I am hunted down, but I avoid it unless I am doing something else, like fighting another player. I can block cavalry and get out of their way.
Learn to play? Once again: I'm saying there is no honor in fighting as cavalry. I'm not complaining about how bad cavalry is, I'm not saying cavalry players suck, I'm just saying there is no honor in it.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Torben on January 24, 2012, 05:23:39 am
well than you havent seen decent cav yet.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Jeric on January 24, 2012, 05:26:50 am
well than you havent seen decent cav yet.

I've been here for over a month; I've seen my fair share of cavalry.

To all the people that disagree with my post, are you cavalry? Even part time cavalry?
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Oberyn on January 24, 2012, 05:36:51 am
What the fuck do you think battle is, a duel server? Are inf gangbanging some other inf "dishonorable"? Have you never hit a guy fighting someone else as inf? What about ranged, what's the honor in that? Using your moronic standards no one deserves valor.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Torben on January 24, 2012, 05:38:44 am
haha.  nm than.  thought you were only half serious
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: ArchonAlarion on January 24, 2012, 05:39:02 am
Kinch, I think you are speaking more of noobalry.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Jeric on January 24, 2012, 12:16:28 pm
What the fuck do you think battle is, a duel server? Are inf gangbanging some other inf "dishonorable"? Have you never hit a guy fighting someone else as inf? What about ranged, what's the honor in that? Using your moronic standards no one deserves valor.

Going into battle dismounted, as an archer, gangbanger, or no, is certainly more honorable than going in with a horse. I know it's not a duel server, but the first sentence still applies.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: SquishMitten on January 24, 2012, 12:19:06 pm

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Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Lorenzo_of_Iberia on January 24, 2012, 12:27:43 pm
You should come onto eu1 when there are 10 GK on.

Then you will feel true hatred for ha and lancers*.

*(This is by no means a boast about our skill, we have very little skill, but in a 10 man rape train... win by numbers! :P)
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Jeric on January 24, 2012, 12:29:04 pm
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STRAIGHT ON THAT
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: B3RS3RK on January 24, 2012, 12:31:31 pm
What are you people talking?7-5 is an acceptable score for everyone and a rather good one for a guy with only a cudgel...I mean, i dont agree with his Point of view, but its not like thats a bad score.

edit: Also,
Quote
You should come onto eu1 when there are 10 GK on.

Then you will feel true hatred for ha and lancers*.

I can assure everyone, this is 100% true.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Peasant_Woman on January 24, 2012, 12:34:54 pm
7-5 is a decent score. I actually sort of respect that OP posted an average rounds score rather than the best score they have ever gotten.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Lorenzo_of_Iberia on January 24, 2012, 12:37:39 pm
7-5 is a decent score. I actually sort of respect that OP posted an average rounds score rather than the best score they have ever gotten.

It could be that hes just that awful that 7-5 is the best score he has ever got ;)
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Overdriven on January 24, 2012, 12:44:21 pm
Haha it's true. 4 HA running around on one team + countless lancers and a jav cav. Scream in frustration please.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: B3RS3RK on January 24, 2012, 12:46:06 pm
I dont usually GTX, but the one time I was on Eu_1 with the GK Rapetrain I fucking exploded...The excessive Hatred I felt in that moment resembled the glowing heat of thousand suns.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Kafein on January 24, 2012, 12:54:04 pm
Personally, I see that kind of fake-peasant-eternal-blockers from a mile away. Not worth any of my time, just like the few actual peasants. The only difference being that I have at least some respect for the real ones, while fake peasants are basically attention whores on top of leechers. Talk about honor. You are exactly the type of guy that will hide in a hay all round long to get the valour without helping your team.

If there's no honor for cav, then there can't be any honor for any kind of ranged. And any kind of ninja, and any kind of backstabbing or outnumbering enemies to get cheap kills. In the end, the only honorfull move is dying, actually. And that's exactly what happens when you get valour. You die.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Gnjus on January 24, 2012, 12:59:28 pm
Delaying really depends on the person, if you're an asshole like Jackie you'll always be delaying no matter the class you play.  :wink:


P.S. Nice to see that you're just a human being after all Bloby, capable of raging & insults. Now i like you even more.  :wink:
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Brutal on January 24, 2012, 01:36:16 pm
Original Post made me  :D , how some guys took it personally made me  :lol:.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Herkkutatti on January 24, 2012, 02:04:14 pm
Awesome painting skills !
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Trikipum on January 24, 2012, 02:55:05 pm
Good work boy. Did your mom help you to draw it?. I bet she is very proud of her "special boy". Salute.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: von_felty on January 24, 2012, 06:55:09 pm
I like how such a simple drawing makes people rage.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on January 24, 2012, 07:30:30 pm
Cavalry and HA/HXbowmen are different. They're different classes entirely. Also, Cav hate HA/Hxbowmen.

I'm not too much in the mood to type a huge paragraph, but...

You generalized. Not ALL cav are assholes, or bad, nor do they ALL couch afks. Although, many do. I guess my point is that I am not a team-bumping, afk-couching, cav! Yay?

I agree.  As a fellow horse lancer who tries to be a good teammate.  I try to help teammates who are over-extended (if I can).  I try not to get bogged down chasing other cavalry.  If I engage other cavalry my main goal is to dismount them, if I do, I usually don't keep trying to kill them on the ground (they've been neutralized, move on).  I try to attack enemy infantry who is engaged with my friendly infantry (that's called teamwork, not kill whoring). 

And sometimes if I'm in the area I will go out of my way to pick off the people who can't defend themselves well versus cavalry (i.e. people without long pointy weapons).  Cavalry is a lot like a predator, you aren't going to go after an adult bear if you're a lion looking for food, you're going to go after the injured, the sick, the weak, the young, etc. 
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Lactose_the_intolerant on January 24, 2012, 07:39:28 pm
nice to see you put us all in the same basket...
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Teeth on January 24, 2012, 07:41:09 pm
I dig your paint man.

Oh and 7-5 with a cudgel on a sumpter horse, fuck you all, that is pretty good.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Bobthehero on January 24, 2012, 07:49:11 pm
Bitch please I can get twice that score naked with a torch and any NA players knows I jump on armored people with my torch.

Chinaserf is indeed one bigass delayer.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Teeth on January 24, 2012, 07:58:01 pm
Bitch please I can get twice that score naked with a torch and any NA players knows I jump on armored people with my torch.

Chinaserf is indeed one bigass delayer.
Do it
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Bobthehero on January 24, 2012, 08:06:18 pm
I am at Uni right now, later perhaps?
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Jeric on January 24, 2012, 08:47:23 pm
Personally, I see that kind of fake-peasant-eternal-blockers from a mile away. Not worth any of my time, just like the few actual peasants. The only difference being that I have at least some respect for the real ones, while fake peasants are basically attention whores on top of leechers. Talk about honor. You are exactly the type of guy that will hide in a hay all round long to get the valour without helping your team.

If there's no honor for cav, then there can't be any honor for any kind of ranged. And any kind of ninja, and any kind of backstabbing or outnumbering enemies to get cheap kills. In the end, the only honorfull move is dying, actually. And that's exactly what happens when you get valour. You die.

For one, I don't leech, I go out with the rest of my team and try to help (however minor).
Secondly, I never hide; in the rare occasions that I am the last alive I make sure I go directly into the enemy. I don't troll for valour.
Ranged infantry are so vulnerable. It is courageous to go into battle without a tin suit, and no proper melee weapon (as most archers have a spiked mace, hand axe, or hammer). Cavalry also ensures regularly that archers are kept down.
Ninjas and backstabbers are willing to go behind enemy lines risking not being able to escape, something cavalry doesn't have to worry about more often than not. Getting cheap kills on foot is still more honourable than getting cheap kills on horseback.

"Real peasants"
"Fake peasants"
What is the definition of peasant? Is it, "a new player?"
I've been called a fake peasant because I'm not new, and I've had all the opportunity to buy new equipment, but this is the way I see it: if you have a peasant's equipment (total value less than 500), then you're a peasant. When I came to cRPG, I had already played Warband online and single player for a very long time and I was fairly good at melee. So. Please expand on how to classify the 'fake' from the 'real' among peasants.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Zerran on January 24, 2012, 09:02:39 pm
Kinch might be weird and a bit disturbed  :lol:, but he is in no way a leech. He actually fights... maybe you should try not judging people based on a single positive kd screenshot when you have NEVER played with them? Hell, I grab peasant gear and a staff every now and then for the luls. You should try it sometime, it's great fun.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on January 24, 2012, 09:06:13 pm
OP's right we need to nerf cav.

The current horse models need to be replaced by a unicycle, and the cav player should have to play a "balancing" mini game while riding in order to stay mounted. That, or have it so that players' w-a-s-d keys get randomly switched around while on horseback, and/or their monitor has x% chance of turning off mid-game.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Kerrigan on January 24, 2012, 09:14:54 pm
The rage is strong in this one.

I'm sorry but you need to grow some balls. If you can not handle cav, then you suck. As a cav, I feed of your anger. So please, continue.

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Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on January 24, 2012, 09:18:41 pm
He's making fun of people who whine about shit instead of learning some tactics.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Jeric on January 24, 2012, 09:56:22 pm
The rage is strong in this one.

I'm sorry but you need to grow some balls. If you can not handle cav, then you suck. As a cav, I feed of your anger. So please, continue.

I've already had to post about this multiple times before on the thread . . . Please read the feedback of your peers and my responses before you post. This goes for this guy, as well:

He's making fun of people who whine about shit instead of learning some tactics.

I will put this all very easy to see, for future readers:

MY ABILITY TO FIGHT CAVALRY IS IRRELEVANT; I KNOW HOW TO FIGHT CAVALRY, THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT ME SUCKING, OR OF CAVALRY SUCKING, THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE LACK OF VIRTUAL HONOR WHILE ON HORSEBACK. THE IMAGES IN THIS THREAD ARE BASED ON MY OWN EXPERIENCES AND THE EXPERIENCES OF OTHERS AS I HAVE OBSERVED.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Lorenzo_of_Iberia on January 24, 2012, 10:04:16 pm
Kerrigan does not feed on honour but on the pain he causes
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Overdriven on January 24, 2012, 10:06:03 pm
Lol honour. Really? You expect to much.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Jeric on January 24, 2012, 10:08:34 pm
Lol honour. Really? You expect to much.

I don't expect honor. Cavalry can't provide honor, so, don't give cavalry valor. Whole idea of the thread. I never said I expected honor.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Teeth on January 24, 2012, 10:09:44 pm
I am at Uni right now, later perhaps?
Do it whenever you want, just would like to see you pull it off.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Overdriven on January 24, 2012, 10:10:41 pm
I don't expect honor. Cavalry can't provide honor, so, don't give cavalry valor. Whole idea of the thread. I never said I expected honor.

Why would you not give cavalry valour? There is 0 reason I can think of. The ones you already stated don't count.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on January 24, 2012, 10:12:56 pm
I wasn't speaking to you specifically kinch.  But I will address your post, I don't believe in honor.  I don't cheat at video games, but when we are all in the game there is no honor.  My honor is towards my teammates and doing everything in my power to help us win the round (without cheating, without being dis-respecting people, and without exploiting game mechanics).  My honor is to the Gods of War. 

Honor is for the dead, because that's the only place it will take you, to the grave.  Enjoy your honor when you're clutching it in your grave.  I will honor your death by hearing the lamentations of your women. 
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: obitus on January 24, 2012, 10:19:09 pm
cowvary is great shut up groundie
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Leshma on January 24, 2012, 10:29:02 pm
Lol honour. Really? You expect to much.

I don't expect anything good from GK. You're all ****.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Lorenzo_of_Iberia on January 24, 2012, 10:35:31 pm
I don't expect anything good from GK. You're all ****.

Ye Santa gave us 0 presents this xmas :(
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Taser on January 25, 2012, 12:28:04 am
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Stupid thread is stupid. All players should get valour no matter their playstyle. Someone just doesn't like cav and has a boner for honor.

Also Bob, how much PS do you use to get torch kills? My torch alt always bounces off of armored people with like 6 PS.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Jeric on January 25, 2012, 01:22:35 am
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Stupid thread is stupid. All players should get valour no matter their playstyle. Someone just doesn't like cav and has a boner for honor.

Also Bob, how much PS do you use to get torch kills? My torch alt always bounces off of armored people with like 6 PS.

It's not that I don't like cavalry, considering I play as cavalry half the time, and even I agree that it has no honor in it. And yes. I get rock hard when people say "honor."
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Overdriven on January 25, 2012, 01:47:06 am
I don't expect anything good from GK. You're all ****.

Coming from a guy who supports P.anos  :|
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Tears of Destiny on January 25, 2012, 01:47:50 am
If you want people to listen, you must present something that does not offend the eyes, such as an image too large to properly see, or gigantic glaring red text.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Bobthehero on January 25, 2012, 01:52:19 am
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Stupid thread is stupid. All players should get valour no matter their playstyle. Someone just doesn't like cav and has a boner for honor.

Also Bob, how much PS do you use to get torch kills? My torch alt always bounces off of armored people with like 6 PS.

10, accept no substitutes
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Munchkin9 on January 25, 2012, 02:56:16 am
*Read first page -> skip to 5th page -> more of the same = doubt I missed anything important*

The fact that *most* cav spend their time back stabbing everyone is not something anyone can deny. Like I said, not all cav, I've seen a bunch that are truly good and impressive cav, notably that 1-hander cav that's making a resurgence. They are genuinely cool to watch, obvious in their skill and even fun to fight.

The main issue I find is that of all weapons a polearm being used from horse back is the most deadly. I know of no other weapon that has such a high 1-shot kill rate. On the off-hand I know of no weapons so easily blocked (except maybe for polearm and shield). What I'm getting at is: the people playing cav aren't the issue so don't rage at them; the issue is the game mechanics related to cav. These game mechanics are engraved in stone all the way back to the first Mount and Blade. And frankly I don't see what can be done about them.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Taser on January 25, 2012, 02:59:15 am
10, accept no substitutes

Understood. 10 PS it is.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Jeric on January 25, 2012, 12:12:05 pm
*Read first page -> skip to 5th page -> more of the same = doubt I missed anything important*

The fact that *most* cav spend their time back stabbing everyone is not something anyone can deny. Like I said, not all cav, I've seen a bunch that are truly good and impressive cav, notably that 1-hander cav that's making a resurgence. They are genuinely cool to watch, obvious in their skill and even fun to fight.

The main issue I find is that of all weapons a polearm being used from horse back is the most deadly. I know of no other weapon that has such a high 1-shot kill rate. On the off-hand I know of no weapons so easily blocked (except maybe for polearm and shield). What I'm getting at is: the people playing cav aren't the issue so don't rage at them; the issue is the game mechanics related to cav. These game mechanics are engraved in stone all the way back to the first Mount and Blade. And frankly I don't see what can be done about them.

The amount of people that keep posting "stop raging" is pretty bad, at the moment. Please look for the large red text in the pages that you skipped, and read over the original thread again.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Kerrigan on January 25, 2012, 02:37:01 pm
Ok so you think there is no honor in being a cav because all we do is backstab people, hunt peasants and delay the game?

Let me set things straight. I do not by far backstab people all the time. I charge at two handers, shielders, archers, xbowmen and even people with small pikes from the front a lot of times and they all see me coming. And I kill them. They have a chance to dehorse or hit me and I use my maneuver and timing to outplay them (I fail at that plenty of times). I dont think this is any different to infantry vs infantry.

As for hunting peasants, thats just nonsense. I want to win, not have the biggest score. When a peasant crosses my way I throw in a stab, yes. Just like any infantry would do. If I miss I go on for bigger fish. (I see infantry chasing a peasant for miles sometimes) If there is a peasant and an armored guy walking next to eachother I definately go for the armored guy. (Maybe give the peasant a little bump :twisted:)

Delaying the game? No, never. When I am the only one left against a big number I will just try to kill as many as possible and eventually get dehorsed and killed. When I am up against, lets say, 10 infantry that are left, I take my time( if there is enough time) and try to take them out because I know I have a chance.

Many cav think like me and act like me. I think what you are referring to is the beginner/amateur cav.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Cris on January 25, 2012, 03:30:33 pm
Guys whays the point of replying to his cav haters?

They have a melee server, if they hate us, let them use it. :)
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: dodnet on January 25, 2012, 03:40:54 pm
OP's right we need to nerf cav.

The current horse models need to be replaced by a unicycle, and the cav player should have to play a "balancing" mini game while riding in order to stay mounted. That, or have it so that players' w-a-s-d keys get randomly switched around while on horseback, and/or their monitor has x% chance of turning off mid-game.

Thanks for making me laugh so hard  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Kafein on January 25, 2012, 06:24:36 pm
Thanks for making me laugh so hard  :mrgreen:

Actually, playing cav with a random event inverting w and d for a short time would be totally awesome :mrgreen:
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on January 25, 2012, 06:37:59 pm
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Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: joey_bologna on January 25, 2012, 06:58:02 pm
I rarely ever get valor anyways. I'll fight dirty and rush to enemies spawn and take out as many archers as I can until someone with a pike makes me run away. But I will also charge into 5 enemies who are all surrounding a fellow cav and try and help him out. Lancing people in the back that never even saw you coming is always fun, but I will also take on enemies with lances and spears head on. Also whorse archers are just my old friendchers on a horse, and nobody likes them, especially cav. I will always try and kill whorsearchers and whorsexbowers. They should get the same turn degree limit lancers got. They spin around their horses ass machine gunning you on their courses, it's BS.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Lt_Anders on January 25, 2012, 07:11:19 pm
Chinaserf is NOT a Horsecrossbow. He's a poser. I'm the real HC on NA. All the rest are posers.

And I delay cause reloading an xbow is long as hell on horseback.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: dodnet on January 25, 2012, 07:20:09 pm
Actually, playing cav with a random event inverting w and d for a short time would be totally awesome :mrgreen:

That could be implemented for "non-repaired" horses (stubborn, lame). I would even disable repairs for that feature from time to time  8-)
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Denam on January 25, 2012, 08:00:35 pm
Actually, playing cav with a random event inverting w and d for a short time would be totally awesome :mrgreen:

As funny as it would be, the lols would be washed away by a river of cav tears.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Nehvar on January 25, 2012, 09:55:29 pm
As funny as it would be, the lols would be washed away by a river of cav tears.

I would like to see that river.
Title: Re: My rant on all things cavalry condensed into a huge image
Post by: Kafein on January 25, 2012, 10:05:28 pm
As funny as it would be, the lols would be washed away by a river of cav tears.

I'm cav, and I think I would die of laughter and not cry about it for about one hour after this gets implemented. Just one hour, and then it's out. Or maybe limit it to some special roflservers, with xbows shooting poleaxes and 2h weapons using the horseback 1h stab animation  8-)

It actually makes sense for a stubborn horse, afterall.