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Title: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: Nappy on February 24, 2011, 12:14:32 am
These admins.

        People don't realize that giving these kids the ability to ban other players is purely indispensable. It seems like in the minds of these admins: banning is IMMINENT. They are too banhappy. It's literally a challenge to not get banned when dealing with these inflated egos that flood the servers.

Admins should only ban when completely necessary. They should kick first, give warnings, and hardly give perma-bans.

I know that there a few admins out there who are actually mature enough to realize that this is the fucking internet. We aren't in a court of law, we are on a server swinging axes at one another.
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: Punisher on February 24, 2011, 12:18:42 am
Actually with little exceptions I find the cRPG admins way too forgiving. If anything this mod needs more ruthless administration.

If you follow the rules you will never be banned, it's as simple as that.
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: Nappy on February 24, 2011, 12:26:30 am
Actually with little exceptions I find the cRPG admins way too forgiving. If anything this mod needs more ruthless administration.

If you follow the rules you will never be banned, it's as simple as that.

Have you ever played C-rpg?

Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: Punisher on February 24, 2011, 12:30:38 am
Have you ever played C-rpg?

I have been playing since August, never got banned.

Also I never saw anyone getting banned with no reason.

Edit: Now I saw you are NA, I never play on NA servers so my opinions are strictly about the EU admins.
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: Nappy on February 24, 2011, 12:35:16 am
I have been playing since August, never got banned.

Also I never saw anyone getting banned with no reason.

I apoligize. I see you're from Romania.

I play on EU servers all the time, and everyone knows how to have a good time :)  -This is mostly just a problem with NA servers because they are run by clans.
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: Korgoth on February 24, 2011, 01:29:29 am
EU Servers are run by Clans too but I guess we have mature admins.
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: Nappy on February 24, 2011, 01:52:29 am
Oh I though chadz was running the EU servers for the most part.
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: IG_Saint on February 24, 2011, 01:54:56 am
Oh I though chadz was running the EU servers for the most part.

He is through his chosen admins. Only the EU4 servers are run by pecores.
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: Nemeth on February 24, 2011, 02:42:28 am
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So you got banned and now you are mad. You probably broke a rule. Was it really necessary to create yet another thread on this topic?
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: Balton on February 24, 2011, 02:56:34 am
I don't know bro.

On EU servers I never run into any problems with the admins.

On NA I get muted a lot for no reason (sometimes kicked), but ever since the december patch (when the admins were changed), I haven't been banned (except on Scot's server, but that server is clearly a joke). And let me add, I flame the admins a lot (but to be fair they start flaming me first (this is also generally when the mutes come in)).
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: Philosiraptor on February 24, 2011, 03:16:44 am
I take it this whole thread is aimed at goretooth?

But yea, Nothing bothers me more when an admin decides it is his right to allow all his friends to do the wrong thing and then let others suffer under the waves of selective adminship. My biggest problem is that When having a good time, The kicks happen. I have NEVER been kicked or banned or muted on ANY EU servers.  The NA servers are the ones with the problem. I might add that chadz has implemented a new system to get rid of admins, though no doubt will be trolled by ats- who in my opinion are the new lljk of the forums. (though i love them i hate their hypocritical trolling)
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: Nappy on February 24, 2011, 03:40:50 am
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So you got banned and now you are mad. You probably broke a rule. Was it really necessary to create yet another thread on this topic?

Ok guys I know the c-rpg community (especially the admins) don't take criticism well, but consider this a safe-zone where we can freely discuss this corruption (for lack of a better term). We don't need the brownnosing :)
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: Nappy on February 24, 2011, 03:49:49 am
I don't know bro.

On EU servers I never run into any problems with the admins.

On NA I get muted a lot for no reason (sometimes kicked), but ever since the december patch (when the admins were changed), I haven't been banned (except on Scot's server, but that server is clearly a joke). And let me add, I flame the admins a lot (but to be fair they start flaming me first (this is also generally when the mutes come in)).

That's not really even the problem, though. The admins don't want to mute, they don't want to kick, they don't want to warn. They want to BAN.

Don't believe me?   Take a look at this: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/board,32.0.html
There have been over 300 unban requests, and most of them are just ridiculous (take a few minutes to browse through the topics).
Think of how many problems could be solved with a warning or a mute.
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: Franklin on February 24, 2011, 09:02:49 am
Cant comment on the admin problem as most of the time I'm dead so I never encounter them (I'm a shit player  :wink:).

When I do last longer than 30 seconds, the main thing that flicks my nads are alll the votekick requests that pop up on my screen.  Seriously, last night it was overkill and I wouldnt mind but a lot of players were telling these idiots to give a reason before making the request which was duly ignored.

Pain in the sphinct  :evil:
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: Croaker McGee on February 24, 2011, 09:32:23 am
I consider myself a fairly regular player on the NA servers. and I can count the number of times someone's been banned on one hand and have digits to spare. I've seen people get muted (looking at you Balton  :lol:) but usually it was in jest. Of course since I'm in Hawaii, I might be playing with a milder West Coast crop of players and admins.
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: Vibe on February 24, 2011, 09:34:27 am
I actually never saw a ban happen. Even with all the leechers/unreachables about.
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: EliteDragon on February 24, 2011, 09:51:16 am
Almost 99% of the bans I see happen because of a repeated action, less of the severity of it. Admin warns you to stop teamkilling, you keep doing it, he kicks you. You come back and continue to do it, he'll ban you. Same thing with mutes, 'cept you get muted more easily as most admins don't like being spoken back to.
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: Nappy on February 24, 2011, 10:56:53 pm
Almost 99% of the bans I see happen because of a repeated action, less of the severity of it. Admin warns you to stop teamkilling, you keep doing it, he kicks you. You come back and continue to do it, he'll ban you. Same thing with mutes, 'cept you get muted more easily as most admins don't like being spoken back to.

If that's how bans really went down, then I wouldn't have made this topic. Permanent bans should only be given under very specific conditions.
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: Michael on February 25, 2011, 01:08:23 am
EU Servers are run by Clans too but I guess we have mature admins.



You dont know what you are talking about.

The official EU servers are not run by any clan.

Some of the admins are in a clan. But thats a difference, you know and so.

Ah wait, I just came in because I thought its about 2h/polearm spam.


Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: Zisa on February 25, 2011, 09:22:14 am
Nappy, you are a complete fucking idiot and a troll. You team wound, grief and harass people you do not even know, then whine about 'perma' bans? It's really a time out, take one, grow some brains, stfu and play - when you can, if you can.
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: Nappy on February 25, 2011, 07:56:45 pm
Nappy, you are a complete fucking idiot and a troll. You team wound, grief and harass people you do not even know, then whine about 'perma' bans? It's really a time out, take one, grow some brains, stfu and play - when you can, if you can.

Zisa there's no need to be aggravated. I'm simply suggesting that permabans should be rare and necessary, and warnings should always be given. Getting angry and making posts will get you nowhere :)
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: The_Newer_Wind on February 25, 2011, 11:09:24 pm
Yeah, the admins should prove themselves before actually bieng one, say a 3 week test, if there are any complaints at all, then you wont have the power, if there are no complaints at all then you will be one.
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: Balton on February 25, 2011, 11:19:39 pm
Zisa there's no need to be aggravated. I'm simply suggesting that permabans should be rare and necessary, and warnings should always be given. Getting angry and making posts will get you nowhere :)

But getting angry is what Zisa does best :wink:
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: MountedRhader on February 25, 2011, 11:35:26 pm
Balton you're the biggest problem in cRPG.
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: Nemeth on February 26, 2011, 12:25:11 pm
Why are you crying about perma bans though? Read the first topic in Ban/unban section. Do you think banning someone who broke rules for two days is harsh? I don't. I browse the ban/unban section quite often and I don't think I've seen any really permanent bans issued. If you break rules, bare the consequences.
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: Balton on February 26, 2011, 12:42:30 pm
Why are you crying about perma bans though? Read the first topic in Ban/unban section. Do you think banning someone who broke rules for two days is harsh? I don't. I browse the ban/unban section quite often and I don't think I've seen any really permanent bans issued. If you break rules, bare the consequences.

I've been banned for three days so far as a joke by Braeden. I did not break any rules, but currently as far as I can see this ban is "permanent"

Is this justified? Of course not.

Did I do anything to deserve it? No.
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: MountedRhader on February 26, 2011, 12:46:49 pm
But you will live with it indefinitely unless Braedan's laugh jars are full
Braedan you're truly a master at making me lol, but I do not see this as justified even though we all would rather not play with balton. 
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: Nemeth on February 26, 2011, 07:08:29 pm
I've been banned for three days so far as a joke by Braeden. I did not break any rules, but currently as far as I can see this ban is "permanent"

Is this justified? Of course not.

Did I do anything to deserve it? No.

AFAIK you are a test case. Either Braedan gets his admin power removed by community for abusing, or the biggest troll will stay banned. I think that's a win-win situation.
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: Furax on February 26, 2011, 07:18:21 pm
AFAIK you are a test case. Either Braedan gets his admin power removed by community for abusing, or the biggest troll will stay banned. I think that's a win-win situation.

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Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: Dreakon_The_Destroyer on February 26, 2011, 08:02:51 pm
Nappy you were horse bumping the WHOLE team last night. there were like 5 ATS members on at the time also.

you JUST got unbanned apparently as well. so annoying the admins right after you've been forgiven seems a bit stupid.

and dont get me wrong i love to goof around and be stupid, but you were pushing it man
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: Balton on February 26, 2011, 08:22:04 pm
But you will live with it indefinitely unless Braedan's laugh jars are full
Braedan you're truly a master at making me lol, but I do not see this as justified even though we all would rather not play with balton.  :rolleyes:

Kids will be kids. Childish immature actions.

AFAIK you are a test case. Either Braedan gets his admin power removed by community for abusing, or the biggest troll will stay banned. I think that's a win-win situation.

No one wins when admins abuse.
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: Loki on February 27, 2011, 10:18:04 am
I've never been banned, muted, or even kicked from any c-rpg server.  That being said I have seen the ridiculous abuse that goes on on the NA servers.

1. First and foremost being that admin positions are given to allies and friends of the clan that runs the server.  Hmm.. how many admin positions did hospitaller and eastern tsardom have on the NA servers before they joined the Northern Empire?  Now how many do they have? It seems like every member in the NE has admin powers now.  I've donated money to help support the NA servers but I don't think any Fallen member will ever get an admin position on the servers.  Not that I think Fallen should, it should go to people who play often, are level headed, and will enforce the rules fairly.  Not used as a political tool.

2. Changing server settings and maps to suit individual needs.  Is banner balance on or off right now?  Why can I change teams sometimes but not others?  Why did the map get changed for no reason?

3. Wanton enforcement of rules.  Watch out if someone doesn't like you.  Very few warnings or kicks, almost always a perma ban, even for the most minor of offenses. (such as bumping into an admin with your horse in spawn, on accident)

4. The most egregious of all is the abuse of the strategus server.  Restarting the server when losing a battle is game breaking.  Kicking and banning players during a strategus battle is game breaking.  Just the fact that you're administrating your own games during strategus is game breaking, especially so when only friends and allies have admin powers.

All of the c-rpg servers should be funded, supported and ran by the community as a whole.
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: The_Newer_Wind on February 27, 2011, 11:51:19 am
That's not really even the problem, though. The admins don't want to mute, they don't want to kick, they don't want to warn. They want to BAN.

Don't believe me?   Take a look at this: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/board,32.0.html
There have been over 300 unban requests, and most of them are just ridiculous (take a few minutes to browse through the topics).
Think of how many problems could be solved with a warning or a mute.

MY GOD! How could there possibly be so many people banned! its crazy, seriously, just limit them! get the responsible ones and kick all the ones people have made decent complaints against.
Title: Re: Without a doubt the BIGGEST problem in C-rpg
Post by: Rumblood on February 27, 2011, 05:07:48 pm
I've never even been threatened with a ban and I'm a bit of a jerk. You must REALLY have some issues going for you  :lol: