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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Miley on January 15, 2012, 11:38:15 pm

Title: Sacrifice Option
Post by: Miley on January 15, 2012, 11:38:15 pm
I think it should be for any level. Who agrees?

Also, they should change it from "Sacrifice ____ for his heirlooms." to his/hers. Why do they assume everybody is a he? It's the same with report system, but that's minor I suppose.
Title: Re: Sacrifice Option
Post by: Harald on January 15, 2012, 11:46:44 pm
It should actually say his or her depending on gender, but seems like i got it wrong. The reason for low level requirement is to avoid alt giving heirlooms to high level main characters.
Title: Re: Sacrifice Option
Post by: Miley on January 15, 2012, 11:48:14 pm
Why shouldn't they go to high levels? You worked just as hard for them, why does it matter?

Also, yes it should be his or her, but I just said his/her. It's not like that's the only grammatical mistake this mod has.
Title: Re: Sacrifice Option
Post by: SquishMitten on January 15, 2012, 11:51:49 pm
It should actually say his or her depending on gender, but seems like i got it wrong. The reason for low level requirement is to avoid alt giving heirlooms to high level main characters.

yes why can't high level mains get their alts items?
Title: Re: Sacrifice Option
Post by: Tzar on January 16, 2012, 12:01:11 am
It should actually say his or her depending on gender, but seems like i got it wrong. The reason for low level requirement is to avoid alt giving heirlooms to high level main characters.

Huh?? this doenst make sense care to explain to us why being high lvl should´nt be allowed to get their items?
Title: Re: Sacrifice Option
Post by: Huey Newton on January 16, 2012, 01:31:50 am
Agreed
Why can't high level people get looms?
You're putting actually less time (assuming your alt is lower gen than your main, due to less xp bonus) into grinding
You're earning the looms either way.

If you think that trying to keep more looms from high level players is going to balance the game, you're horribly mistaken. Looms aren't what they were in 2010.


Title: Re: Sacrifice Option
Post by: chadz on January 16, 2012, 02:14:22 am
[02:07] <@chadz> if you could sacrifice at any level, all the power gamers would never retire their main char any more
[02:07] <@chadz> and this is something we currently do not want
[02:08] <@chadz> everyone would have a main char that is just being used as a storage container and for strat battles
[02:08] <@chadz> might be a bit overexegerated
[02:08] <@chadz> but it goes in that direction
[02:09] <@chadz> we might find a solution for a one time transfer
Title: Re: Sacrifice Option
Post by: Miley on January 16, 2012, 05:58:47 am
[02:07] <@chadz> if you could sacrifice at any level, all the power gamers would never retire their main char any more
[02:07] <@chadz> and this is something we currently do not want
[02:08] <@chadz> everyone would have a main char that is just being used as a storage container and for strat battles
[02:08] <@chadz> might be a bit overexegerated
[02:08] <@chadz> but it goes in that direction
[02:09] <@chadz> we might find a solution for a one time transfer

I would love a one time transfer. I have +1 Bodkins and +1 [Some type of mail] Gloves on Miley_Mondaren, and I would love to transfer those to my main. I'm trying to get +3 Black Lamellar and +3 Leather Gloves. Getting money is very hard for me, so it would help a lot if I wouldn't have to pay so much because I'd have +2 already.
Title: Re: Sacrifice Option
Post by: Huey Newton on January 16, 2012, 07:09:16 am
Yeah a one time transfer sounds good to me
Title: Re: Sacrifice Option
Post by: Murchad on January 16, 2012, 09:34:12 am
one time transfer would be nice,
 being able to grind for more heirlooms would be nicer but i understand your rationale
Title: Re: Sacrifice Option
Post by: Gisbert_of_Thuringia on January 16, 2012, 12:07:55 pm
Why not making it possible for at least one character for high lvl players?

I have an altchar with a loomed item, but I actually don't want to play this char anymore.

I have other chars with looms as well, but I want to keep them on these chars.


So can't you at least allow high lvl players to sacrifice one character?
Title: Re: Sacrifice Option
Post by: Spawny on January 16, 2012, 03:37:32 pm
I would love a 1 time transfer to main option. I have 2 alts, one with a +2 weapon and 1 with +1 war darts. I haven't played either of them for quite some time (or more than 30 minutes in the past few months). It's just rotting there now and I would love to be able to use them on my main.
Title: Re: Sacrifice Option
Post by: Osiris on January 16, 2012, 04:27:54 pm
you can if you retire your main :P. its a tradeoff. try to be the highest lvl possible and have no alt looms or be lower levels and get your alts looms. afaik the whole retirement system was to stop everyone being high lvl and new guys having no chance.

I think he is trying to avoid everyone in the game being lvl 33-35 ^^
Title: Re: Sacrifice Option
Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 16, 2012, 05:33:33 pm
Great when there finally is a loom transfer from alts to main it is for lvl 5 or lower ._.
Title: Re: Sacrifice Option
Post by: Spawny on January 16, 2012, 05:35:35 pm
you can if you retire your main :P. its a tradeoff. try to be the highest lvl possible and have no alt looms or be lower levels and get your alts looms. afaik the whole retirement system was to stop everyone being high lvl and new guys having no chance.

I think he is trying to avoid everyone in the game being lvl 33-35 ^^

Then why not just put the level cap at 31? I personally don't want to retire anymore, because it takes me SOOOOO long to get to level 30.
Not being able to get the heirlooms on my alts will most likely not change anything. Especially since I won't be able to make the +2 item on my alt +3.
Title: Re: Sacrifice Option
Post by: BlindGuy on January 16, 2012, 05:48:28 pm
Huh?? this doenst make sense care to explain to us why being high lvl should´nt be allowed to get their items?

High level chars are still able to get 'looms the normal way: Trading. But give players a way that they can STILL get Looms through trade AND farm them on alts and then transfer them to their SUPERHERO IM SO GOOD toons, they will have twice as many. People are ALWAYS gonna use EVERY advantage they can to gain superiority over others. That's why we live in capitalist society: It works, we are greedy, selfish, assholes, as a species. It's why we now own the planet, not the dinosaurs, or the gibbons: we are teh greediest.
Title: Re: Sacrifice Option
Post by: Tzar on January 16, 2012, 06:26:54 pm
Who would have the mental stamina to grind items with a gen 1 toon for hes main  :?:  thats gotta be the most fucked up an boring way to play cRPG
Title: Re: Sacrifice Option
Post by: Malaclypse on January 16, 2012, 06:30:25 pm
It's why we now own the planet, not the dinosaurs, or the gibbons: we are (sic) teh greediest.

Human beings don't own anything except our time, and we cannot know what kind of figure that is, even. We borrow everything we have, then we die and lose it. Individually and collectively.
Title: Re: Sacrifice Option
Post by: BlindGuy on January 16, 2012, 06:59:59 pm
Human beings don't own anything except our time, and we cannot know what kind of figure that is, even. We borrow everything we have, then we die and lose it. Individually and collectively.
DEEP. And as an intelectual excersize, true. But try telling the Judge that you were only borrowing that money from the bank.
Title: Re: Sacrifice Option
Post by: Harald on January 16, 2012, 08:28:19 pm
You get the items.
Title: Re: Sacrifice Option
Post by: BlindGuy on January 17, 2012, 01:47:45 am
Thanks. Any chance you also could get the gold?

Being a bit greedy there :D
Title: Re: Sacrifice Option
Post by: chadz on January 17, 2012, 10:46:18 am
no gold, as that would promote naked leeching.

Use the gold you have.
Title: Re: Sacrifice Option
Post by: Gimest on January 17, 2012, 02:20:44 pm
High level chars are still able to get 'looms the normal way: Trading. But give players a way that they can STILL get Looms through trade AND farm them on alts and then transfer them to their SUPERHERO IM SO GOOD toons, they will have twice as many. People are ALWAYS gonna use EVERY advantage they can to gain superiority over others. That's why we live in capitalist society: It works, we are greedy, selfish, assholes, as a species. It's why we now own the planet, not the dinosaurs, or the gibbons: we are teh greediest.

Indeed
Title: Re: Sacrifice Option
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on January 17, 2012, 04:14:32 pm
Huh?? this doenst make sense care to explain to us why being high lvl should´nt be allowed to get their items?

to avoid heirloom farming
Title: Re: Sacrifice Option
Post by: PieParadox on January 17, 2012, 07:47:16 pm
I suppose strategus makes a difference too... Never retire your main, keep at level 33, use alts to give main heirlooms while main rapes in strat... Surprised no one pointed this out?
Title: Re: Sacrifice Option
Post by: Aljo on January 18, 2012, 07:23:53 pm
no gold, as that would promote naked leeching.

Use the gold you have.

I have 500k on my alt, from freaking 6 gens, mkay?

I want that gold, I earned it fair and square

EDIT: you can gold farm on main chars, there will be same consequences (kick, ban, warnings)
if you now try to say that alts are easier to leech or farm gold because of hidden identity, I say that anyone who does that cannot be respected in this community anyway, noone is such a good actor(leeching isnt just a behavior but a thought of "I can do whatever I want, its just a game" which reflects in everyday's behavior of that persona).


Then why not just put the level cap at 31? I personally don't want to retire anymore, because it takes me SOOOOO long to get to level 30.
Not being able to get the heirlooms on my alts will most likely not change anything. Especially since I won't be able to make the +2 item on my alt +3.

Lol. just lol.
Title: Re: Sacrifice Option
Post by: Murchad on January 24, 2012, 08:09:08 pm
Any thought still going into allowing a one time transfer from alts of people with main over 31?
Title: Re: Sacrifice Option
Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 29, 2012, 02:05:18 am
Any thought still going into allowing a one time transfer from alts of people with main over 31?

I'd really wish for this, or an option making retiring from 31+ actually worth it. Something like a 4th loom or an instant +3 loom.