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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Realism Discussion => Topic started by: Kulin_ban on January 13, 2012, 06:57:45 pm
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This sure is somewhat realistic, but gameplaywise I have 2 thoughts:
1. I think there already is enough depth in melee fights. Right now it includes e.g. blocking, feinting, chambering, timing, range control, footwork, kicking and even that applies different for different weapons. Even without the implementation of your suggestion, meaning with even less aspects of melee to be familiar with, I dont know anyone yet winning 100% of all 1v1 duels due to the melee system being to easy to master. If 50% of all duels took more than 3 minutes you'd know providing melees with some new techniques is in need. But thats not the case I guess.
2. How would you counter it ? Right now you cant really controll the armmovement or elevation of a sideblock, so your charged high blows would stun enemies to a 100% basicly letting the player with more weapon range win.
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The problem is that we dont have an "on_parry"-trigger that allows to figure out when a block or chamberblock happens. As far as I understood there is a problem with crafting such a trigger with WSE which cmp can't solve without too much effort or hacky solutions. So we won't have something like that in the near future.
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The animation is meant to represent an entire variety of ways to block. No one blocks like that in real life.
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It would only work if you made blocking as flexible as well, and then even I (who is all for faster/deeper melee combat) would probably say that it has become too complicated.
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It would only work if you made blocking as flexible as well, and then even I (who is all for faster/deeper melee combat) would probably say that it has become too complicated.
No such thing, especially not in c-rpg/warband. Like OP, I as well want to see more complex fighting model.
Right now, there is way too many people who know almost everything about melee combat.
Duels can last for ages, it's just that most duelists avoid that and play risky and very aggressive most of the time.
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Duels can last for ages, it's just that most duelists avoid that and play risky and very aggressive most of the time.
So just like Real life then, huh?
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I think it is something for a more advanced engine. What we have right now is amazingly good given what it is working with. The tales world guys really did make something pretty special out of some super basic components.
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I think it is something for a more advanced engine. What we have right now is amazingly good given what it is working with. The tales world guys really did make something pretty special out of some super basic components.
Couldn't agree more, they did a great job with the combat.
However, I hope we'll get a total overhaul in M&B 2, so it'll be more complex than the 4 direction block tennis we have now.
But still, this is quite the achievement, way more ahead of any, ANY fighting game, or MMO.
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Couldn't agree more, they did a great job with the combat.
However, I hope we'll get a total overhaul in M&B 2, so it'll be more complex than the 4 direction block tennis we have now.
But still, this is quite the achievement, way more ahead of any, ANY fighting game, or MMO.
I can't agree more with you, the game actually has an awesome gameplay, instead of "crutching" on graphics, like most games do.
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I like your idea!
+1