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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Game Balance Discussion => Topic started by: FRANK_THE_TANK on January 03, 2012, 05:09:51 am

Title: [Stats] Side Sword
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on January 03, 2012, 05:09:51 am
EDIT:

If the cost of the Side Sword was brought in line with the Italian Sword it would immediately become a more attractive option.

Italian Sword: 6,807
Side Sword: 8,219

Side Sword
weapon length: 95
weight: 1.2
difficulty: 10
speed rating: 100
weapon length: 95
thrust damage: 28 pierce
swing damage: 27 cut
slots: 1

I can think of 2 options to differentiate it from the Long Eslanova and to give a real reason to be in the top tier of 1h weapons.
1) Increase swing damage by 1 (This wouldn't make a huge difference but it would be better than a punch in the eye.)
2) Increase speed by 1

At the moment it is out classed by the Long Eslanova, the length gives the LEE an edge large enough to make the side sword more or less redundant. I spent most of a gen using the Side Sword and I feel its completely out matched by far to many top tier swords. As a cav thrust sword the LEE has the edge with the extra 8 length.

If your think "what use is there in a thrusting sword for 1h cav?", think horse bump. Ye olde bump and stab, hard to do but very fun.

Long Espada Eslanova
weapon length: 103
weight: 1.2
difficulty: 12
speed rating: 99
weapon length: 103
thrust damage: 28 pierce
swing damage: 27 cut
slots: 1

Giving the side sword +1 to swing dmg will make its MW variant a pretty exceptional sword. I do think however giving it +1 to speed would be the better option, it would then have a real reason to be in the top tier and would be a pretty potent weapon.

It would place it a similar category to the Katana, same speed, same length. Considerably less swing dmg but considerably more thrust.
Katana
weapon length: 95
weight: 1.2
difficulty: 9
speed rating: 101
weapon length: 95
thrust damage: 16 pierce
swing damage: 37 cut
slots: 2

This sword is incredibly under used. Its not under appreciated, it is a very average weapon. Recently on the market there were 4 +1, the price crashed to 265k.

No one will touch the thing.

Cheers
FRANK

PS BUY MY SWORD!
Title: Re: [Stats] Side Sword
Post by: Roh_ on January 03, 2012, 07:53:11 am
Seems to me it would make more sense just to lower the price on the side sword. One more speed or damage isnt going to make up for the length anyway.
Title: Re: [Stats] Side Sword
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on January 03, 2012, 08:15:42 am
1 more speed would make a difference.

It would make it a chambering beast, you would be able to amp up your foot work with a 102 speed 95 length MW Side Sword.

But also at MW it would be the fastest thing longer than 90 in the 1h area.
Title: Re: [Stats] Side Sword
Post by: Vibe on January 03, 2012, 09:53:15 am
+1 speed would be fine, side sword was overnerfed.
Title: Re: [Stats] Side Sword
Post by: Elmokki on January 03, 2012, 10:31:40 am
Yeah, I used to have side sword on me ages ago on my first shielder character before the slot system. Nowadays I just don't see any reason to buy it.
Title: Re: [Stats] Side Sword
Post by: Vibe on January 03, 2012, 10:33:13 am
Infact, I think I never saw a sidesword in-game after the nerf.
Title: Re: [Stats] Side Sword
Post by: Xant on January 03, 2012, 10:37:52 am
Yep, way overnerfed. It was /the/ OP weapon before (at least most whined about) and then it was hit too hard by the nerfbat.
Title: Re: [Stats] Side Sword
Post by: Ujin on January 03, 2012, 10:38:40 am
Call me a chocolate chip cookie,  but i like that this sword was overnerfed and barely anyone uses it now.
Title: Re: [Stats] Side Sword
Post by: Lactose_the_intolerant on January 03, 2012, 11:36:29 am
Call me a chocolate chip cookie,  but i like that this sword was overnerfed and barely anyone uses it now.

chocolate chip cookie
Title: Re: [Stats] Side Sword
Post by: Siiem on January 03, 2012, 11:42:47 am
This poll is a farce, there is no "u suck" option.
Title: Re: [Stats] Side Sword
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on January 04, 2012, 08:51:58 am
This poll is a farce, there is no "u suck" option.

You are a fail post in the making.
Title: Re: [Stats] Side Sword
Post by: Lech on January 04, 2012, 12:56:05 pm
chocolate chip cookie

I like chocolate chip cookies like ujin.
Title: Re: [Stats] Side Sword
Post by: Konrax on January 04, 2012, 06:31:22 pm
Side Sword was over nerfed.

+1
Title: Re: [Stats] Side Sword
Post by: isatis on January 04, 2012, 07:27:41 pm
it got a buff from last time (was 27/27 now 28/27) but yeah... nerf price a bit or higher speed.

(for the record my clan mate falcom has a mw one and he is the only one i see with it regulary!
Title: Re: [Stats] Side Sword
Post by: Konrax on January 04, 2012, 07:46:19 pm
It is honestly a great sword still, its fast and has a great stab, I just don't see the cost justifying it.
Title: Re: [Stats] Side Sword
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on January 06, 2012, 02:33:52 am
Yeah if it cost the same as an Italian Sword I may actually use it, but its too expensive and its competitor is simply better and cost barely anything extra.