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cRPG => Events & Tournaments => Topic started by: Olwen on January 01, 2012, 08:03:29 pm

Title: CRPG league
Post by: Olwen on January 01, 2012, 08:03:29 pm: Strategus sucks and brings no teamplay at all

what about making a crpg league ? 10vs10, lvl 30 max chars, armors under plate, no heirlooms

discuss
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: LordSnow on January 02, 2012, 01:43:16 am: I want a 1vs1 tournament.
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Gnjus on January 02, 2012, 09:37:04 am: Quote from: Olwen on January 01, 2012, 08:03:29 pm
discuss

Nothing to discuss really. Get yourself a clan first then talk about leagues & tournaments. :twisted:
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Teeth on January 02, 2012, 01:45:39 pm: Quote from: Olwen on January 01, 2012, 08:03:29 pm
Strategus sucks and brings no teamplay at all

what about making a crpg league ? 10vs10, lvl 30 max chars, armors under plate, no heirlooms

discuss
Isn't a large part of cRPG getting lvl's and heirlooms to build an asskicking character. It's kinda weird if you can't use those in a clan tournament. I still support it though, would be very hard to control if people are not using looms. Maybe everyone should make a new character with a certain tag for the tournament.
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Moncho on January 02, 2012, 01:50:21 pm: Quote from: SgtTeeh on January 02, 2012, 01:45:39 pm
Isn't a large part of cRPG getting lvl's and heirlooms to build an asskicking character. It's kinda weird if you can't use those in a clan tournament. I still support it though, would be very hard to control if people are not using looms. Maybe everyone should make a new character with a certain tag for the tournament.
Then the first battles would be peasant wars
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Jacko on January 02, 2012, 01:56:33 pm: Who knows what the future will bring.
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: chadz on January 02, 2012, 01:58:52 pm: zomg spoiler
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Dezilagel on January 02, 2012, 02:19:20 pm: Just use stf chars for torneys and we'll be alright?
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: okiN on January 02, 2012, 02:54:38 pm: Quote from: chadz on January 02, 2012, 01:58:52 pm
zomg spoiler

FFS chadz, now he won't be able to say it was his idea!
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Olwen on January 02, 2012, 04:46:56 pm: looms and free leveling would make it unfair

the point of this league would be to show up some skill and strategy, not how some retards spent their lifetime grinding

the main difference with native league would be that you can make your own build with your own equipment and not follow some readymade, play new maps too

then there's 3 options : _ believe people aren't retards and won't try to cheat in a game ... derp
_ make a different crpg mod or server on which only stf chars are allowed
_ make a different crpg mod for league only with everyone creating lvl 1 chars and getting lvl through tournament matches only... could be fun but i wonder about its balance, would probably often need a reset
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Teeth on January 02, 2012, 04:55:10 pm: Quote from: Spaniard on January 02, 2012, 01:50:21 pm
Then the first battles would be peasant wars
sigh
Quote from: Dezilagel on January 02, 2012, 02:19:20 pm
Just use stf chars for torneys and we'll be alright?
That ^

Somehow I get the idea that devs are planning something along these lines. You better hurry up.

As the planning phase means it is about a dozen lightyear away. Here is how I see it could work:

Require people to make new characters with skip the fun. They should have a big T at the end of their name or something. Something that shows they are for the tournament. You would have to inform devs, admins or whoever handles namechanges to not allow this tournament specific tag as a namechange. This way you will get all new characters without looms. The only problem is that people could level them beyond lvl 30, but I doubt anyone is that hardcore for a tournament. Maybe 2 guys are no life enough to do that, pretty much everyone will be lvl 30.
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Moncho on January 02, 2012, 05:02:36 pm: Teeths suggestions are quite good, and also this:
make a 3rd type of character: You would have a main, a lot of alts, and a champion (or whatever you choose to call it).
The champion should be a new character and would get STFed when making it to guarantee no loom or level aboose.
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Osiris on January 02, 2012, 05:03:23 pm: well olwen :D you could be a super suck up and get nice and friendly with a mod and ask a mod to ref the matches (as they can check players lvls and gens) making STF chars is fine but they would need different names to the persons main otherwise they would just change the tag :D
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Ujin on January 03, 2012, 05:19:11 pm: The game is called c==RPG== for a reason, i like the idea of people being able to use their looms in tourneys, clan battles, duels etc. Otherwise we can just play native battles, not much difference. Imo.

We can consider lvling chars/getting looms something like a preparation for a tourney, like a boxer training hard before the fight.
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Tristan on January 03, 2012, 05:25:58 pm: I'll actually agree with Ujin. Looms are a part of the game. Lets us not throw them away completely.
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Olwen on January 03, 2012, 06:00:58 pm: when you train you get more skill without having more lvl or looms ^^

i always thought looms shouldn't be in crpg but it brings people to a masterpiece of grinding and neverending goal

imo it just makes some weapons silly op

it's rpg because you build your own char with your own build and stuff, no need for the grinder rewards
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Cepeshi on January 03, 2012, 06:22:08 pm: the grinder rewards are shit that grants replayability, why would you stick to one char for a year if you had nothing from it?

I mean, fun is one part, but still i like to sell a loom or two to pay for my upkeep, i like to slowly loom all my gear and feel the difference, it really gives you an edge, and if you spend a lot of time, not that you get better by skill, but also by gear, that is ok for me.
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Ujin on January 03, 2012, 07:11:14 pm: Quote from: Cepeshi on January 03, 2012, 06:22:08 pm
the grinder rewards are shit that grants replayability, why would you stick to one char for a year if you had nothing from it?

I mean, fun is one part, but still i like to sell a loom or two to pay for my upkeep, i like to slowly loom all my gear and feel the difference, it really gives you an edge, and if you spend a lot of time, not that you get better by skill, but also by gear, that is ok for me.
Exactly. I'd like myself (and everyone else too) to use MY character on which i've been working all this time in tournaments, with MY gear (or some sort of a clan-prefered armor (uniform)+ my weaponry ) . Making a STF char for leagues and tournamets would do exactly that for me- remove the fun element from it.

And also , think about it. Whether it's a league or a tournament, having looms can add a new management clan element to it. Providing your best guys with proper gear etc. I dunno, i think difference in levels and loomed items just adds more depth and challenge to it. Otherwise it's too similar to native, which we can already play anyway.

Shumacher was winning for so long not just because he was the best driver, but also because he had the best cars, management, mechanics etc.
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Cyber on January 03, 2012, 11:44:26 pm: I would personally prefer looms to be disabled and just use skip the fun characters, so everyone would have equal oppurtinities and winning would depend on skill instead of grinding.
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: SoA_Sir_ODHarry on January 04, 2012, 05:40:30 am: I once played a browser Game which was called Urban Streets.
It was a Card Game wit thousands of cards and there was a League.

It called ELO
In Elo mode many cards werent usabel too keep it fair
at every second hour was a tournament
and the more games u won the higher was the rank u claimed in the end = Reward

I think this would be perfect for cRPG league
limited weapons/STF(Elo) Chars =cards
daily Tournaments of 1 hour
First mode Duels
second Battel

Duel mode good K/D = good reward
Battel mode good W/L =good reward

also a battel mode where an extra reward winks would be cool for peeps like me always cry bout the incuffient Teamplay at pub servers.

another idea of mine:

too the duel tournament could be added classes
like 2h/1h/pole/shielder/cav/ranged
so a 2h just fights another 2h and so on...
and then make a cut of the best too the middel too the badest of the classes of 1 tournament
so u got 3 Groups of 1 class which represent the skill of each player.
Then u could take these 3 Groups and put all classes togehter for
A: Battel mode
B:Duel mode

U would get based on Skill , balanced and fair Battels/Duels
Duels a hard to balance...and its proabably not work wit this system through the different classes we got....IDK bout that (ranged,cav...)

But i think it would be nice for Tournament BATTELZ which i would like too see....

so imagine U can first have a duel tournament and after that (depends how good u played) u get a ticket for a Battel or for the next Duel tournament which participants r the best/weakest of their classes.

greetz OD

(Jedi Hand:
my Grammar is perfect)

of course the reward should be transferabel too ur main Char but Tournament Char needs to be Tournament Char
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Kalp on January 04, 2012, 11:21:00 am: Quote from: Cyber on January 03, 2012, 11:44:26 pm
I would personally prefer looms to be disabled and just use skip the fun characters, so everyone would have equal oppurtinities and winning would depend on skill instead of grinding.
On last Fallen tournament, the winners had only 3 lordy armors. Imho this is not decisive factor. And remember that STF give only 10k gold...

Also Ujin post +1
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Cepeshi on January 04, 2012, 03:21:23 pm: Quote from: SoA_Sir_ODHarry on January 04, 2012, 05:40:30 am

of course the reward should be transferabel too ur main Char but Tournament Char needs to be Tournament Char

What is the reasoning on this? You want to make it fair, yet you want to get advantage by it?

STF tourneys might interest some people, others want the challenge of trying to take out fully loomed group of opponents, why dont you see this? Me, personally, i would not mind playing both STF or main char tourney, even tho i would not like the fact my money is limited so hard and my spec aswell, i am planning on going for lvl 33 spec once i got all looms i want, and i am looking forward to actually enjoy this behemoth spec when i am there.

Tourney/league seems like good idea, but either make it pure STF (with no rewards to main, just showoff of skill/teamwork) or make something for mains, from which the winning team might get something actually, except epeen :)
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Leshma on January 04, 2012, 03:29:29 pm: Although I don't play c-rpg atm and I'm not part of the clan I support this idea and I also support only STF chars restriction. It's a league after all, you can show off your loomz in pub battles.

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On last Fallen tournament, the winners had only 3 lordy armors. Imho this is not decisive factor. And remember that STF give only 10k gold...

They should raise that amount to 50k, I've already suggested that in the past, no response tho.
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Tomas on January 04, 2012, 05:25:28 pm: How about a server where you pay 5k gold per round.

If you survive you get your cash back and otherwise the money is split between the winning team according to kills

So in a 10v10 round where 2 people survive. The survivors would get their 5k back and the remaining 90k would be divided according to kills. So if you got 3 kills, you would get 27k of the 90k pot. Team kills still count as -1 so would be punished and its not really abuseable as you can't play with 2 chars at once and you can already transfer money between people.

At certain times of the day, the server can be set to duel where it will work exactly the same but winning the duel immediately gets you 10k.

Call it an ELITE server and make it unlockable only for level 30 chars and above.
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Olwen on January 05, 2012, 06:34:59 pm: A league is supposed to be fair. No point in giving some players advantages through grinding. Otherwise most of the casuals would have a hard job managing to fight against full heirloomed and lvl 33 players. As said before you can use them in pub battles or whatever, donno, make a grinding league if you please.

STF is just fine with 35-40k.
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Ujin on January 05, 2012, 06:40:21 pm: Quote from: Olwen on January 05, 2012, 06:34:59 pm
A league is supposed to be fair. No point in giving some players advantages through grinding. Otherwise most of the casuals would have a hard job managing to fight against full heirloomed and lvl 33 players. As said before you can use them in pub battles or whatever, donno, make a grinding league if you please.

STF is just fine with 35-40k.
That's why it's called a league. Progression, climbing up to the top ranks and so on. A league can also have 2 divisions with top 1-2 teams from the second division being transfered up to the premier division after the "season" ends.

Come on people, the STF idea is just so dull in my opinion, i'd lose most of the interest for participating in it myself.
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Olwen on January 05, 2012, 06:49:59 pm: progression would only be ok if it was during the league matches only, maybe make it x50 xp during league matches with everyone starting lvl 30 chars with 30k
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: T_Grellenort on January 05, 2012, 06:50:57 pm: STF dull and not realistic, in life people are different and have different capabilities (physically gifted people or well-trained (high level) and master of combat (skill)).
It's a pity they did not bring shogunat tournament to end, and not perfected the idea, it was interesting.

I would be interested in for tournament (or fight) for cRPG-money rates. The rules as proposed by Shogunate.
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Olwen on January 05, 2012, 07:05:01 pm: Wanna make it realistic ? Ok, let's make a hardcore league. If your char died during a match it is deleted.
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: T_Grellenort on January 05, 2012, 07:17:26 pm: Quote from: Olwen on January 05, 2012, 07:05:01 pm
Wanna make it realistic ? Ok, let's make a hardcore league. If your char died during a match it is deleted.
Why torture yourself? Why not just take your favorite character?
Two cockroaches to tear everything except one leg and look what crawls faster - this is your proposal.
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sorry for my english :oops:
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Burr1ck on January 05, 2012, 07:28:56 pm: +1 for cRPG League.

It would be nice if cRPG had it's own version of clanbase, it'll have it's own tab on the cRPG site called "League". Teams would fight to get higher up in the rankings table and fights would be organised through the site. It would of course need referees and dedicated league servers.
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Cyber on January 06, 2012, 11:57:59 am: I remember first threads discussing cRPG league were over year ago already, devs have said long time ago aswell that they have plans for creating something like that. Nothing has ever been really done though. (closest thing i guess might be fallen tournaments) Im too lazy and don't have enough experience with that stuff to try to organize something. But someone who is willing to invest time in it should really just give it a try and put something together to see if it works out, if it dosen't it's not a big deal. Otherwise im fairly sure that nothing expect this thread is going to happen this time aswell.
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on January 06, 2012, 12:06:44 pm: I don't think we should bother to have separate characters for this, I think the most important factor is that the league system itself exists as a database, and is moderated. I believe the diversity of everyone's characters and style would make the league interesting to watch.
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Chagan_Arslan on January 06, 2012, 12:19:34 pm: Quote from: Olwen on January 01, 2012, 08:03:29 pm
Strategus sucks and brings no teamplay at all

what about making a crpg league ? 10vs10, lvl 30 max chars, armors under plate, no heirlooms

discuss

horses allowed ? :P
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Olwen on January 06, 2012, 06:27:24 pm: ofc

Imo a single player shouldn't be managing all the stuff alone ... because he'll get bored quite fast and then it'll be dead

My suggestion would be to invite the most respected players of crpg to take part in it and help organize and referee

Each of those players would ofc have their word to say in every step the league takes.
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Torben on January 09, 2012, 07:33:45 pm: remove stat buffs from looms and give them street cred by naming them and giving them a diff look. than use the main chars for the league. I´d be cool with that
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Prizane on January 15, 2012, 04:49:22 pm: And of course chadz will deny this because he dont want to do this because of hard work x/
Title: Re: CRPG league
Post by: Cyber on January 17, 2012, 03:24:24 pm: Another league thread fallen into oblivion :( ?