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Title: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Warpeasant on December 28, 2011, 05:35:50 pm
While he ripped me off all my gold on strat, depreving me off almost all the fun on strat he now demanded all my tradegoods 550 whatever.... when i didn t gave em because i wanted to craft lordly heavy armour and masterwork flamberges instead of bodkin arrows wich i don t use as a two hander, he attacked me and my 0 troops and kicked me out of the clan  :rolleyes:  ... guess to take em by force... I here by declare myself independent of the shitty new leadership of the Templars... have fun... and a little recomondation from me - don t join the clan as long as ALPHA/OMEGA the mighty lord of potatos is playing strat leader....
You be the judge...
with best regards ex-Templar Warpeasant
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Mighty_Beer on December 28, 2011, 05:42:46 pm
Are u going to cry now???



KID.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Boerenlater on December 28, 2011, 05:50:49 pm
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Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Warpeasant on December 28, 2011, 05:51:19 pm
nope ;-) what make s you think so.... i m not even a kiddo 8-)
just talking about the state the templar s are in...
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Mighty_Beer on December 28, 2011, 05:56:16 pm
nope ;-) what make s you think so.... i m not even a kiddo 8-)
just talking about the state the templar s are in...

I Like Monkeys

The pet store was selling them for 5¢ a piece. I thought that odd since they were normally a couple thousand each. I decided not to look a gift horse in the mouth. I bought 200. I like monkeys.

I took my 200 monkeys home. I have a big car. I let one drive. His name was Sigmund. He was retarded. In fact, none of them were really bright. They kept punching themselves in their genitals. I laughed. Then they punched my genitals. I stopped laughing.

I herded them into my room. They didn't adapt very well to their new environment. They would screech, hurl themselves off of the couch at high speeds and slam into the wall. Although humorous at first, the spectacle lost its novelty halfway into its third hour.

Two hours later I found out why all the monkeys were so inexpensive: they all died. No apparent reason. They all just sorta' dropped dead. Kinda' like when you buy a goldfish and it dies five hours later. Damn cheap monkeys.

I didn't know what to do. There were 200 dead monkeys lying all over my room, on the bed, in the dresser, hanging from my bookcase. It looked like I had 200 throw rugs.

I tried to flush one down the toilet. It didn't work. It got stuck. Then I had one dead, wet monkey and 199 dead, dry monkeys.

I tried pretending that they were just stuffed animals. That worked for a while, that is until they began to decompose. It started to smell real bad.

I had to pee but there was a dead monkey in the toilet and I didn't want to call the plumber. I was embarrassed.

I tried to slow down the decomposition by freezing them. Unfortunately there was only enough room for two monkeys at a time so I had to change them every 30 seconds. I also had to eat all the food in the freezer so it didn't all go bad.

I tried burning them. Little did I know my bed was flammable. I had to extinguish the fire.

Then I had one dead, wet monkey in my toilet, two dead, frozen monkeys in my freezer, and 197 dead, charred monkeys in a pile on my bed. The odor wasn't improving.

I became agitated at my inability to dispose of my monkeys and to use the bathroom. I severely beat one of my monkeys. I felt better.

I tried throwing them way but the garbage man said that the city wasn't allowed to dispose of charred primates. I told him that I had a wet one. He couldn't take that one either. I didn't bother asking about the frozen ones.

I finally arrived at a solution. I gave them out as Christmas gifts. My friends didn't know quite what to say. They pretended that they like them but I could tell they were lying. Ingrates. So I punched them in the genitals

I Like Monkeys
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Tuonela on December 28, 2011, 05:58:32 pm
I will apply for Alpha in order to fight for the Calradian tyrants.
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: ryanwilson140 on December 28, 2011, 06:05:52 pm
Great Job Warpeasant and while you are at it, go join fallen. Strat 2.0 giving fallen 30 k strat gold for crpg gold  ....................... cannot be trusted in all Holy clans, but where you want to be sell outs and misfits please welcome him. He belongs with you.
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Segd on December 28, 2011, 06:06:12 pm
We will help you to beat this greedy Templars! xD
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Warpeasant on December 28, 2011, 06:08:30 pm
Great monkey story to tell your kidds... if only you would be able to ever have some...

Purchasing department is motivated to buy from the lower end of that range, but ask yourself these questions before deciding what to buy: How much do those cheap purchases really cost you? How is your equipment-purchasing program aligned with your business capitalization strategy? And how might it impact valuation when it’s time to consider your exit strategy?

When you really think about it, effective equipment purchasing becomes far more complex than a simple price comparison.

First, let’s consider “utility” driven purchases. Since the middle of the last century, it’s become a common marketing practice that goods and services be marketed in the good, better, best scheme, each with a correspondingly higher price point. Remember the old Sears, Roebuck catalogs where this concept was openly highlighted? While at first it would seem to make sense to just buy the cheapest item, there are obviously situations when cheaper does not mean better, otherwise why would those various price points exist in the first place?

The reason lies in a concept that economists call “utility,” in other words the “value” the purchaser places on what a particular good or service does for them. Seems simple, but it’s far trickier than what’s on the surface. Take a six-quart saucepan, for instance. A simple view is that the pan doesn’t add much value since all it does is conduct heat from the range to whatever is in the pan. But, further reflection reveals another aspect of utility, and that is the protection of other assets, such as food. You don’t need to burn too much sauce to make up the difference in cost between a cheap aluminum pan and a nice clad bottom stainless steel pan that heats more effectively and coddles a valuable (read expensive) demi-glace or beurre blanc. And this consideration extends to more than sauce pans. What about a convection oven that doesn’t heat evenly and burns a couple of pans of bacon every day? Do the math. And wouldn’t you know it, oftentimes cheap equipment lasts a long time, costing even more every day it performs poorly. Face it, buying cheap equipment can cost you a lot of money.
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: BADPLAYERold on December 28, 2011, 06:10:11 pm
sounds mad
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Warpeasant on December 28, 2011, 06:10:15 pm
Don t cry ryan you got all them other kidds to command around... one less adult won t hurt you...
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Tears of Destiny on December 28, 2011, 06:14:59 pm
This is one of the least coherant threads I have read on these forums...

I like monkies too.
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Shadowren on December 28, 2011, 06:15:18 pm
You have to understand that strategus is a clan based game and everything you do in it is for the better of your clan not yourself. Also if your in a clan and a higher ranking member ask you to do something its normally for the best to just do it since it is for a good cause.
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Tears of Destiny on December 28, 2011, 06:18:05 pm
You have to understand that strategus is a clan based game and everything you do in it is for the better of your clan not yourself. Also if your in a clan and a higher ranking member ask you to do something its normally for the best to just do it since it is for a good cause.

Actually this really.

To be honest until everyone has a much higher armour level, those bodkins would have helped your clan a lot more then some outrageously expensive flamberges and such. You are not supposed to craft stuff for your own personal use, but stuff that your clan as a whole can use (such as ammunition which is priceless right now).

So suck it up, be a team player or get out of strategus... Or become an indie bandit...

I would have kicked you out too. Clans are for teamwork and socializing, and you failed to fulfill one of those two rather well.
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Shadowren on December 28, 2011, 06:20:41 pm
Actually this really.

To be honest until everyone has a much higher armour level, those bodkins would have helped your clan a lot more then some outrageously expensive flamberges and such. You are not supposed to craft stuff for your own personal use, but stuff that your clan as a whole can use (such as ammunition which is priceless right now).

So suck it up, be a team player or get out of strategus... Or become an indie bandit...

I would have kicked you out too. Clans are for teamwork and socializing, and you failed to fulfill one of those two rather well.

I couldn't say it better myself Tears.
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: ryanwilson140 on December 28, 2011, 06:28:44 pm
Since we are somehow talking about pans.

1. I buy 10 pans for killing chickens with.
These pans cost 10 gold each.
They can kill 1 chicken but then break.
Total 100 gold.
= 10 dead chickens.

2. I buy 5 steel pans for killing chickens with.
These pans cost 40 gold each.
They can kill 2 chickens each.
Total 200 gold.
= 10 dead chickens.

We have  arrived at the same outcome but which one costs less ?

When you can solve this Mr. Economics (Warpeasant) come talk to me.

I will just stick to Accounting as it is "clearly inferior" to this magic they call economics ....
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: ryanwilson140 on December 28, 2011, 06:34:09 pm
Actually this really.

To be honest until everyone has a much higher armour level, those bodkins would have helped your clan a lot more then some outrageously expensive flamberges and such. You are not supposed to craft stuff for your own personal use, but stuff that your clan as a whole can use (such as ammunition which is priceless right now).

So suck it up, be a team player or get out of strategus... Or become an indie bandit...

I would have kicked you out too. Clans are for teamwork and socializing, and you failed to fulfill one of those two rather well.

I agree with tears on this and so would most clan members from any clan, even though he is *Cough* Fallen scum. :D
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: ryanwilson140 on December 28, 2011, 06:36:24 pm
Please rename the thread you have misspelled Templar wrong. You should at least know how to spell your clan's name you have been in the clan longer than I have ....
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: HarunYahya on December 28, 2011, 06:38:11 pm
Alpha umad ?
I didn't understand wtf is going on in this thread.
It's either there is epic trollization happenin and i am a retard cuz i couldn't understand
 or
You are so mad at someone and Serfonz should unban panoş .

edit:
Sadly it's number one , i am a serious retard i didn't see that i was reading 2nd page on the thread...Gotto read the first one to understand whazhappenin here i guess :P
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Casimir on December 28, 2011, 06:39:05 pm
i don't even


something must be done!
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: HarunYahya on December 28, 2011, 06:39:35 pm
i sense some psychological problems here...
NEED A MEDIC !
or fuck this im out ...
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: HarunYahya on December 28, 2011, 06:44:27 pm
Are u going to cry now???



KID.  :rolleyes:
Holy fukken shit !
Ehmm welcome to cRPG community newcomer !
Im sure i don't know you but i like your name and im glad you love turks.I feel so good when i see new people on forums  :D
So, welcome back !
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Warpeasant on December 28, 2011, 06:45:12 pm
It s not my clan anymore so why should i know how to spell it... as i have understood it strategus was meant to be more fun for everyone with the new updates, so where s my fun with bodkins as a 2 hander?!? Where s the problem with me hopping arround with my army of 49 in preffered gear for my clan? I don t get it....

Nevertheless tears thanks for posting as always i like your comments...

oh and i bet you are a great chicken killer ryan - should be as easy as attacking sb with 0 troops...

and to all the ppl telling me to suck it up... don t worry i did, no more strat for me ;-) and i will live on for eternity :-)
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: ryanwilson140 on December 28, 2011, 06:49:04 pm
Panos should be unbanned and Warpeasant is whining because he didn't get to craft MW flamberge for 200000000 gold.
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: ryanwilson140 on December 28, 2011, 06:52:44 pm
I like chicken whats it to ya!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Overdriven on December 28, 2011, 06:54:18 pm
So many double posts...such a pointless thread  :|
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Warpeasant on December 28, 2011, 06:54:47 pm
oh i forgot, i didn t read your post to the end ryan, so sorry, i got a master in economics, so i wouldn t kick somebody from the clan who always donated... problem is ppl will just leave country s, clan s, clubs and whatever that have a 100% tax rate, that s why most of us live in selfish modern capitalist states, but why bother explain that to you... just keep the games i bought you and live happily ever after...

Oh and as i m German i can tell, opression will not keep ppl at bay forever, that s why socialism didn t work out ;-) kiss
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Warpeasant on December 28, 2011, 06:55:51 pm
So you like chicken and all you get is potatos? that s saaaad  :lol:
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Artyem on December 28, 2011, 07:06:01 pm
The Templars lost a lot of popularity and interest a long time ago, right around when Growl left.


What ever happened of Growl? Didn't he say he was going to come back?
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: ryanwilson140 on December 28, 2011, 07:07:58 pm
Socialism didn't work out but tribes are one of the longest social structures that still stand and  tax is not an issue for them... Everything is owned by the tribe and for the tribe.

Much like clans on strategus. Masters in economics is like A Level Politics, no one really cares for your opinion until something bad happens and when something bad does happen, the only thing you can tell us is that it "may get worse".

 Yes, Economics please analyze this data and tell me what you think.
Oh you already did?
what is the solution ?
1 + 2 = failure to communicate. Uh oh I see we have 20 mw flamberge and 500 troops so we are going to have 1 guy run at the enemy with 24 guys following him and if he dies pick up his flamberge it is effective, efficient and well... an economist said it would work.
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Tristan on December 28, 2011, 07:09:45 pm
Sounds like the Templar Leadership actually knows what they are doing.

If the poster of this thread don't see how the OP is actually positive advertising for the templars... gaaawds.
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Warpeasant on December 28, 2011, 07:29:38 pm
oh ryan you so funny

-1 templar = how many more goods

oh i kept it really simple so you could understand now dont ask mommy and try to find the solution

___>Aemaelius no, sorry to say your wrong 90% of the templars are great, but the leadership sucks that s exactly why we are having a little uprising of the peasant right now!
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Casimir on December 28, 2011, 07:40:37 pm
I don't suck!
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Lobster on December 28, 2011, 07:47:22 pm
Thats it! if players are going to get kicked from clans then im going to clown college!!!
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: ryanwilson140 on December 28, 2011, 07:58:08 pm
lol 1 less taking away from productivity and general happiness of the clan on ts GREAT !!!!!!
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Stabby_Dave on December 28, 2011, 08:00:31 pm
Warpeasant. You clearly fail and obviously deserved a kick.
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Warpeasant on December 28, 2011, 08:12:46 pm
Obviously i fail... good bye
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: isatis on December 28, 2011, 08:15:28 pm
ok... isatis understand something going on with templar... isatis won't gonna get involved, but isatis gonna point out one fact

learn to use edit !!(yes the modify button at top rigth of your post)

that's all

oh and i loved the monkey story, that make me remember the rhesus invasion i got in DF, rhesus blood all the way down!! yippi! also the price of those rhesus tails in my trade with other civ... awesome remembrance from one hour ago.
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on December 28, 2011, 08:27:06 pm
You have to understand that strategus is a clan based game and everything you do in it is for the better of your clan not yourself. Also if your in a clan and a higher ranking member ask you to do something its normally for the best to just do it since it is for a good cause.

This.  The OP sounds like an idiot.  If you don't want to follow the leadership of your faction/clan when they give you direct orders, then make your own clan, or join another you agree with.  It should be common sense that what you do as an individual, is for the good of the clan (not yourself).  I'm guessing you would have sold all those 550 trade goods at the same place you made them. 

The more I read, the more I'm convinced warpeasant is either 12-15 years old, or has some seriously mental problems.
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: bredeus on December 28, 2011, 09:43:22 pm
Hi Warpy. How dare you leaving me? And this whole alpha is not even a knight templar, anyone saw his application? ;) seriously guys. Strat is alphas job/fun/hard work. Leave it to him and dont you dare leave kt cause of strat, i will miss your tincan no block style :)
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Post by: Gawin on December 28, 2011, 09:48:18 pm
JOIN FALLEN
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Post by: Fartface on December 28, 2011, 10:06:45 pm
This thread is awesome!
I like monkies to.
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Post by: Prpavi on December 28, 2011, 10:08:21 pm
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Post by: Prpavi on December 28, 2011, 10:13:45 pm
why isnt she moving!!!!
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Post by: Jambi on December 28, 2011, 10:14:19 pm
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Post by: Osiris on December 28, 2011, 10:50:54 pm
I can understand warpeasents frustration about strat (In the fact that it is no fun for anyone but the leaders and all we do is farm shit and give it away and hope we get a battle sometime, its more like work then a game) BUT really warpeasent you shouldnt have taken this to the public arena. If you didnt want to give everything away when you farm its simple :P just quit strat and stay in the clan. no need to quit the clan.
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Post by: ThePoopy on December 28, 2011, 10:57:56 pm
who drowned?
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Fartface on December 28, 2011, 11:01:11 pm
Quite strange that you would post this at general discussion.
Instead of Talking to omega.
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Teeth on December 28, 2011, 11:10:52 pm
Looks like you spilled some sweet internal clan drama there.

Does it make me dumb that I never knew that Templar_Alpha and Templar_Omega were the same guy?

Anyway this thread is so full of weird posts that I don't get it anymore. Isn't it weird though, that a clan leader is publicly hating on another clan? Thought even the worst sportsmen wouldn't diss complete clans for no reason in general discussion.
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Dezilagel on December 28, 2011, 11:33:49 pm
Hello my dear friends!
Well, here i am on record at last.
And it feels so wonderful to be here with you on my first album.

I'm so happy!
Aha! happy go lucky me!
I just go my way,
Living everyday!

I don't worry!
Worrying don't agree,
Things that bother you,
Never bother me!

Things that bother you,
Never bother me
I feel happy and fine!
Aha!
Living in the sunlight,
Loving in the moonlight
Having a wonderful time!

Haven't got a lot,
I don't need a lot
Coffee's only a dime
Living in the sunlight,
Loving in the moonlight,
Having a wonderful time!

Just take it from me,
I'm just as free as any daughter.
I do what i like,
Just what i like,
And how i love it!

I'm right here to stay
When i'm old and gray,
I'll be right in my prime!
Living in the sunlight,
Loving in the moonlight,
Having a wonderful time!

Just take it from me,
I'm just as free as any daughter.
I do what i like,
Just what i like,
And how i love it!

I'm right here to stay,
When i'm old and gray,
I'll be right in my prime,
Living in the sunlight,
Loving in the moonlight,
Having a wonderful time!

Oh! isn't this a lovely band!
And what a thrill it is to have them play for me.
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Casimir on December 29, 2011, 12:50:30 am
Isn't it weird though, that a clan leader is publicly hating on another clan? Thought even the worst sportsmen wouldn't diss complete clans for no reason in general discussion.

We are Templars, they heretics. What the fuck do you want?
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Xiou on December 29, 2011, 01:13:15 am
Oh and as i m German i can tell, opression will not keep ppl at bay forever, that s why socialism didn t work out ;-) kiss

I dont have an opinion in your argument, but: Socialism works fine, but since for socialism to function it requires the entirety of a community to take part in it, there has yet to be ANY socialism...
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Alexander_TheGreat_ on December 29, 2011, 02:05:00 am
You were my sun
You were my earth
But you didn't know all the ways I loved you, no
So you took a chance
And made other plans
But I bet you didn't think that they would come crashing down, no

You don't have to say, what you did,
I already know, I found out from him
Now there's just no chance, for you and me, there'll never be
And don't it make you sad about it

You told me you loved me
Why did you leave me, all alone
Now you tell me you need me
When you call me, on the phone
Girl I refuse, you must have me confused
With some other guy
Your bridges were burned, and now it's your turn
To cry, cry me a river
Cry me a river-er
Cry me a river
Cry me a river-er, yea yea

I know that they say
That somethings are better left unsaid
It wasn't like you only talked to him and you know it
(Don't act like you don't know it)
All of these things people told me
Keep messing with my head
(Messing with my head)
You should've picked honesty
Then you may not have blown it
(Yea..)

You don't have to say, what you did,
(Don't have to say, what you did)
I already know, I found out from him
(I already know, uh)
Now there's just no chance, for you and me, there'll never be
(No chance, you and me)
And don't it make you sad about it

You told me you loved me
Why did you leave me, all alone
(All alone)
Now you tell me you need me
When you call me, on the phone
(When you call me on the phone)
Girl I refuse, you must have me confused
With some other guy
(I'm not like them baby)
Your bridges were burned, and now it's your turn
(It's your turn)
To cry, cry me a river
(Go on and just)
Cry me a river-er
(Go on and just)
Cry me a river
(Baby go on and just)
Cry me a river-er, yea yea

Oh
(Oh)
The damage is done
So I guess I be leaving
Oh
(Oh)
The damage is done
So I guess I be leaving
Oh
(Oh)
The damage is done
So I guess I be leaving
Oh
(Oh)
The damage is done
So I guess I be... leaving

You don't have to say, what you did,
(Don't have to say, what you did)
I already know, I found out from him
(I already know, uh)
Now there's just no chance, for you and me, there'll never be
(No chance, you and me)
And don't it make you sad about it

Cry me a river
(Go on and just)
Cry me a river-er
(Baby go on and just)
Cry me a river
(You can go on and just)
Cry me a river-er, yea yea

Cry me a river
(Baby go on and just)
Cry me a river-er
(Go on and just)
Cry me a river
(Cause I've already cried)
Cry me a river-er, yea yea
(Ain't gonna cry no more, yea-yea)

Cry me a river
Cry me a river, oh
Cry me a river, oh
Cry me a river, oh

Cry me a river, oh
(Cry me, cry me)
Cry me a river, oh
(Cry me, cry me)
Cry me a river, oh
(Cry me, cry me)
Cry me a river, oh
(Cry me, cry me)

Cry me a river, oh
(Cry me, cry me)
Cry me a river, oh
(Cry me, cry me)
Cry me a river
(Cry me, cry me)
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Turkhammer on December 29, 2011, 04:00:58 am
Please rename the thread you have misspelled Templar wrong. You should at least know how to spell your clan's name you have been in the clan longer than I have ....

How can you misspell a word wrong?  Is that like a double negative, actually meaning he spelled it correctly?
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: BlindGuy on December 29, 2011, 04:03:40 am
How can you misspell a word wrong?  Is that like a double negative, actually meaning he spelled it correctly?

Dont mock him poor thing, he barely speaks english.
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Turkhammer on December 29, 2011, 04:05:21 am
I dont have an opinion in your argument, but: Socialism works fine, but since for socialism to function it requires the entirety of a community to take part in it, there has yet to be ANY socialism...

Socialism never works well because there are always individuals that are more talented, intelligent and ambitious and others less so.  Human nature being what it is, people wish to be recognized and rewarded for their effort and the merit of their contribution.  They do not wish to support lazy and unproductive people when everyone shares equally in the rewards but not in the work.
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: BlindGuy on December 29, 2011, 04:13:01 am
Socialism never works well because there are always individuals that are more talented, intelligent and ambitious and others less so.  Human nature being what it is, people wish to be recognized and rewarded for their effort and the merit of their contribution.  They do not wish to support lazy and unproductive people when everyone shares equally in the rewards but not in the work.

Hahaha, you should research before you type: what you have put there was the same drivel spouted by Anti-socialist OVER ONE HUNDRED YEARS AGO, and NOW, the SAME AS THEN: has no bearing on socialism. Saying that socialists what to share is proof positive you have no idea what socialism is, and since NO SINGLE COUNTRY can be socialist (the entire planet must be socialist for it to be socialism, by logical understanding of the word socialism), we have yet to see socialism in action.
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Oberyn on December 29, 2011, 04:30:00 am
And we never will have "true" socialism, because it's an ideology that doesn't take into account human nature. You have the wrong sort of creature in humans if you think "socialism" is an achievable or even desirable thing. Which is why the first step in any of the countries that HAVE tried it has always been a so-called transition period that ends up stretching out and never reaching completion, because completion is simply impossible.
Humans are social creatures, true, but they are also independent individuals.
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Turkhammer on December 29, 2011, 04:32:30 am
Talk about drivel.  That's like saying all the world must be capitalist for capitalism to work.  It's a non-sequitur.  The reason it has never worked is because it is unworkable by it's very nature, for the reasons stated.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
Winston Churchill

"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries."
Winston Churchill

"Socialism is the same as Communism, only better English."
George Bernard Shaw

"Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude."
Alexis de Tocqueville

Hardly purveyors of drivel, and with the exception of de Tocqueville, they are quite recent observers.  Even though de Tocqueville was writing in the 18th century, that does not invalidate his observations on the basic nature of socialism.



Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Oberyn on December 29, 2011, 04:46:38 am
Turkhammer, don't confuse socialism that you see in western capitalistic countries today with big S Socialism, which is basically communism. Pure unbridled social darwinian Capitalism is just as unrealistic and unsuitable to humanity, and like Socialism never has and never will exist. They're abstract ideological constructs.
Capitalism as it is practiced now is the "fairest" way of wealth-distribution that we have. The most attractive thing about it is the meritocracy aspect. But I've seen way too many people who are huge capitalism proponents who think "fair" is a dirty word, which just goes to show they don't even understand what they support. 
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: BlindGuy on December 29, 2011, 05:43:11 am
And we never will have "true" socialism, because it's an ideology that doesn't take into account human nature. You have the wrong sort of creature in humans if you think "socialism" is an achievable or even desirable thing. Which is why the first step in any of the countries that HAVE tried it has always been a so-called transition period that ends up stretching out and never reaching completion, because completion is simply impossible.
Humans are social creatures, true, but they are also independent individuals.

I re-read to make sure I hadn't typed something by accident, but I was right: WHERE did I say that socialism WAS achievable, or that I desire it? And as to "Countries that have [socialism]" statement you make, that sentence defeats itself, since a single cell within the global community can no more be socialist by itself than it can decree that its citizens will no longer be consuming air. I do agree, humans are not suited to socialism.

Talk about drivel.  That's like saying all the world must be capitalist for capitalism to work.  It's a non-sequitur.  The reason it has never worked is because it is unworkable by it's very nature, for the reasons stated.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
Winston Churchill

"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries."
Winston Churchill

"Socialism is the same as Communism, only better English."
George Bernard Shaw

"Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude."
Alexis de Tocqueville

Hardly purveyors of drivel, and with the exception of de Tocqueville, they are quite recent observers.  Even though de Tocqueville was writing in the 18th century, that does not invalidate his observations on the basic nature of socialism.




...Your quite foolish:

You seem to have misunderstood. Bernard Shaw was commending socialism in that quote you have, not attacking it.

Churchill (and his father before him) was CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCHEQUER, he was a conservative who believed in the superiority of some men over others by THEIR BIRTH. If you also believe that some people are born to rule others, you are despicable. Also don't forget Churchill was a failure as a military leader as well as a thinker (He masterminded a DISASTROUS campaign in WW1, and caused the British economy to almost collapse between the 2 wars), and the ONLY reason he is outstanding in people's view of historical figures is because he refused to broker peace with Germany, even after it obvious that Britain was going to loose the war. If Japan had not bombed Pearl Harbour, Britain would speak German today and Churchill would be long forgotten (This is not a Pro chocolate chip cookie Germany sentiment, I abhor all that was done by that Austrain freak and his "Nationalist Socialism" rascist ideology). Considering the fact that Churchill was a millionaire from birth, was born in Blenheim palace, was the son of a Duke, and grandson on the Viceroy of Ireland, OF COURSE HE WAS GOING TO VIEW A POLITICAL PHYLOSOFY THAT MEANT HIS INHERITED WEALTH WOULD NO LONGER BE HIS UNLESS HE WORKED FOR IT as a negative thing.

As for de Tocqueville: Remember that he wrote in French, and many arguments have ensued among greater minds than yours or mine as to which of the many translations really carries the meaning of his sentiments, not merely the meaning of the words. His main claim to fame was predicting the cold-war between the USA and the USSR. Democracy was a new practise in the modern world in his time, and socialism merely an ideal, but unfortunatly I cannot take anything he wrote seriously, since he was the worst of all hippocrites: He opposed slavery and racial segregation in North America, but was outspoken in his support of racial segragation in French occupied Algeria. The comment that you have quoted was one of the reason's those opposed to restructuring society along lines of effort=reward started using that rediculous argument (socialists wany to share everything) that sparked this debate, but since it is unfounded and he ment to praise the ideal of selfrestraint and servitude for the furtherance of societal goals, and it is misrepresentative to assume this was an attack on socialist ideals, I wont refute his claim. But EVEN if the true meaning of the quote is that he reguards socialism as a restraining bond on freedom, I would NOT take much heed of what he says: He believed Turks were inherintly EVIL because they were muslim...


So, all in all, Bernard Shaw supporting socialism, and the rest, yes, so much drivel. Educate yourself, fool.
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: BlindGuy on December 29, 2011, 05:45:54 am
Turkhammer, don't confuse socialism that you see in western capitalistic countries today with big S Socialism, which is basically communism. Pure unbridled social darwinian Capitalism is just as unrealistic and unsuitable to humanity, and like Socialism never has and never will exist. They're abstract ideological constructs.
Capitalism as it is practiced now is the "fairest" way of wealth-distribution that we have. The most attractive thing about it is the meritocracy aspect. But I've seen way too many people who are huge capitalism proponents who think "fair" is a dirty word, which just goes to show they don't even understand what they support.

You pretty smart guy.
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Turkhammer on December 29, 2011, 06:19:53 am
Blind Guy, you sure like to toss around  insults, as if that reinforces your arguments.  Typical of small minded people. 

That is your interpretation of what Shaw meant.  Anything that equates socialism with communism damns socialism.
Churchill may have been conservative but that does not mean he was wrong about socialism. 

My basic point at the beginning of this discussion was that socialism as proposed by Marx is bound to fail because it does not take account of human nature.  That is because it advocates state ownership of the means of production and REDISTRIBUTION of wealth.  The only way to achieve that is to tax the productive and support the non-productive.

If you wish to continue with the ad hominem attacks and insults you can kindly go fuck yourself.


Oberyn:  Thank you.  I fully recognize that socialism as advocated by Marx and Lenin is different from what is practiced in much of Western Europe and Scandanavia.  By the same token it seems to me that a "nanny state" with cradle to grave care can only be supported for so long.  Especially with an aging population.  I also agree that unbridled capitalism can be as pernicious as any other form of economic behavior.

Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: BlindGuy on December 29, 2011, 07:22:20 am
Blind Guy, you sure like to toss around  insults, as if that reinforces your arguments.  Typical of small minded people. 

That is your interpretation of what Shaw meant.  Anything that equates socialism with communism damns socialism.
Churchill may have been conservative but that does not mean he was wrong about socialism. 

My basic point at the beginning of this discussion was that socialism as proposed by Marx is bound to fail because it does not take account of human nature.  That is because it advocates state ownership of the means of production and REDISTRIBUTION of wealth.  The only way to achieve that is to tax the productive and support the non-productive.

If you wish to continue with the ad hominem attacks and insults you can kindly go fuck yourself.


I didnt make ANY ad hominem attack on you: and once again I call you a fool: You did not state before that you wanted us to limit the word SOCIALISM to be only the philosofy of Marx, and also you have not grasped: Communism is also a great ideal THAT WE HAVE NEVER SEEN IN PRACTISE because a SINGLE STATE cannot be communist, just as we established that a SINGLE state cannot be socialist. So dont use failed nationstates's attempts at communism as reasoning that communism is "bad" and damns socialism. Shaw was a fervent socialist btw. And that means he wanted those who work to be rewarded, not merely those who claim to work to be rewarded. The banking crisis of the last few years nicely supports that I think: Even when they had totally failed at a game that THEY wrote the rules for, the bankers still gave themselves the biggest annual bonus to date. I bet they are having a VERY hearty Xmas laugh because of THAT feat.

Now: You need to set yourself a definition of "Productive" because currently 99% of the world's wealth is in the hands of the "unproductive" and it certainly did not get there by "redistribution" as you put it: You honestly make me laugh, you cannot seem to seperate yourself from some rightwing textbook you have been reading it seems: Socialism does NOT support the unproductive, NOT IN ANY WAY: It is commonly held in socialist philosofy that on the day when FINALLY we manage to make the majority of the population SEE that we have destroyed our planet, we need to ALL cooperate in a single effort to save our species, that competition for finite resources has altered a VERY fragile balance our existance is based on; on that day, a purge of the unproductive is unfortunate but nescesary. But realistically, its that or we all die: We are finishing the oil wars now, we have 10-15 years before the water wars start, soon after that the artificial lines we have drawn on the map will be melted, and the alignment of the continents in competition WILL beguin, just as Orwell said it would, only instead of perpetual war for civic traquility, there will collosal industrial war over the only resource we REALLY need, the water. Realistically, unless we find a way to travel in space, that war WILL happen, and it WILL purge between 1/3 and 1/5th of the population of the planet, at least. Thats the population, not the HUMAN population. Then will be the moment when HOPEFULLY, we abandon the ideal of "fight for life" where we compete, and we will begin to cooperate to survive as a species, rather than shorttermed individual advancement. THAT is what current Socialists believe, that competition must be left to die its natural death worldwide so the mentality that creates it can die too. So Im sorry if you base your definition on philosofy from 100 years ago, or on what you were taught at school, or on the statement of any political group, I base my thinking on what the minds of OUR era are thinking, using history as a guide and psychology as a template for human reaction.

Your homework for today is to look up a definition for ad hominem. Because I refute your argument, with my argument. I merely call you a fool for not forming your own ideas. Dropping quotes you havent understood from historic figures who werent great minds even at their time does not an argument make. Next you'll quote the bible I guess...its about as relevant to intelligent debate as Churchill, who let's be honest, while a dogged leader, was a fucking idiot.
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Vibe on December 29, 2011, 07:23:46 am
Dear god this thread started out as semi good drama but then you guys ruin it with boring shit.
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: MrShovelFace on December 29, 2011, 07:57:27 am
Only crpg could breed these kinds of people
let us pray that no more than 20 crpg players meet irl at one time or my god the fabric of the universe would fall apart
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Tears of Destiny on December 29, 2011, 09:05:33 am
Bad news, due to Fallen Finish meet-ups, the universe has torn itself apart.
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: bredeus on December 29, 2011, 10:25:22 am
Please move this thing to spam or historical discussion.
I remember quite good a real socialism it worked as "good" as in North Korea now....
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Goretooth on December 29, 2011, 10:32:39 am
I stole a bunch of kittens
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Warpeasant on December 29, 2011, 11:10:14 am
All Hail The Mighty Council! All Hail The Pope!

He who has an ear let him hear my words.

The Peasants have been beaten down in the fareaway deserts, only few of many have seen the wisdom of the words of the almighty and have surrenderd to the almighty Potato... Acre, Jerusalem, the Temple Mount and the mighty Dome of Rock are save Once more. Spread the news around all the civilized european world, what has begun as an uprising of the peasant has been dealt with, the mighty Knights of the Templar s rule once more and are ready to protect there land from the heretic indians with the hilarious ping we have heard of in a fareaway land...

He who has an eye let him see what was written.

As it turned out the peasants we nothing more than illiterate, mentally handicaped, children bewteen 12-15 (oh boy i wish) who were never taught blocking a blade but only relied on thier dirty peasant clothes to protect them. Strong you say they might have been, but they moved like rocks and didn t stand a chance against our battle hardned, quick and agile warriors. Who made short work with them.

The allmighty has graced us with a shipment of fresh ware s, that can soon be sold and turned into arrows to rain down on our ferocious foes, bringing nothing but weeping woman that are left behind. We dare not look at them, because our hearts are broken from all we have witnessed, our spirit's nevertheless stay high because we fight a reighous war.

He who has a mouth let him Form the words.

For the better, for the united, for the strong leadership they stand!
Mighty Templar s roam the land,
Unforgiving blade s they swing,
in hundred years thier song s we sing.

A Templar Knight is truly a fearless knight,
and secure on every side,
for his soul is protected by the armor of faith,
just as his body is protected by the armor of steel.
He is thus doubly-armed, and need fear neither demons nor men.

The evil Peasant was captured, charged with heresy, blasphemy and all other emy's and esy's known to foul mankind. Never again shall he see the light of the Temple of Salomon, never again shall he hear the words of the mighty potato in the Temple of nditions. Farewell my brother s, farewell...

To all the people comenting here, i asked for a public decision and i got what i asked for. It seems i was wrong, but nevertheless i don t think i like the way strategus  is played now a days. Why do i pay a couple of 100k upkeep to get my crafting skill in lordly equipment over 20 and than i m not allowed to craft anything with my own money. So let a humble peasant declare that alpha seemed right and i was wrong, i take my hat and leave to land that seems more appealing to me...

Oh and to the derailed people, i don t think that communism nor socialism is evil... i just belive it doesn t work with people who destroy the only habitat they can live in "earth" and are as selfish as myself. So as long as you can t smack some sence into them, or put them into a cage like most of the leaders in these systems did you are bound to fail. And even then you only have a few good years.

With best regards to all my Templar friends and Angry Commentators, I love the world the mighty chadz has created with his band of brothers...

Banned_Warpeasant

Any misspelled words you can keep, i am no native engish writer... :twisted:

Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Overdriven on December 29, 2011, 11:55:44 am
Wtf happened in this thread? Have only read the last post by blindguy  :lol:

Christ some of you people  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: ShinySpoons on December 29, 2011, 12:10:46 pm
Wtf happened in this thread?
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on December 29, 2011, 12:27:43 pm
Sounds like a royal king cnut.
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Rubicon on December 29, 2011, 12:30:12 pm
 :shock:
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Post by: Elmetiacos on December 29, 2011, 12:42:43 pm
Hardly purveyors of drivel, and with the exception of de Tocqueville, they are quite recent observers.  Even though de Tocqueville was writing in the 18th century, that does not invalidate his observations on the basic nature of socialism.
Although, as leader of the Conservative Party, Churchill can't really be expected to be an unbiased source on the subject...
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Overdriven on December 29, 2011, 12:47:00 pm
Although, as leader of the Conservative Party, Churchill can't really be expected to be an unbiased source on the subject...

Unbiased sources for anything don't exist. You simply get different view points, up to you to make the judgment.
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: Spleen on December 29, 2011, 12:53:29 pm
Please dont join Fallen.
We have a Subclan for Flamberge-Guys, it's called ANT.

Also, I totally understand Alpha/Omega. We Fallens always doublepost our way through this forum...oh wait
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: BlindGuy on December 29, 2011, 01:09:31 pm
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WARPEASANT: Alpha's has just gone a little powermad, bro, please don't leave: He DID had a point, flamberges currently would be useless in Strat, cause whoever you fight will most likely just form a shieldwall then shoot you to shit as you run, looking epic, across the map.
Title: Re: Alpha/Omega is a big ass POTATO - Templer s are no clan anymore...
Post by: ryanwilson140 on December 29, 2011, 02:34:57 pm
I just wanted Red potatoes  :cry: