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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: EddyMcK on December 28, 2011, 09:17:33 am

Title: Random, useless suggestion.
Post by: EddyMcK on December 28, 2011, 09:17:33 am
The best player on the server gets to wear a crown, ownership changes every month (given to whoever has the best score for the month before)

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Show the peasants who's boss
Title: Re: Random, useless suggestion.
Post by: Vibe on December 28, 2011, 09:42:48 am
Best player meaning best KD? Classic misconception of an amateur player.
Title: Re: Random, useless suggestion.
Post by: EddyMcK on December 28, 2011, 09:49:02 am
Never said K/D, because accidental tks could ruin that record. But i saw a point system on the CTF server so a good way to track score does exist
Title: Re: Random, useless suggestion.
Post by: owens on December 28, 2011, 09:56:21 am
best player would be rated on a combination of raw kills, team victories and k/d easy.
Title: Re: Random, useless suggestion.
Post by: Inkompetent on December 28, 2011, 10:04:14 am
Let's start replacing K/D ratio with damage done, and I think this could be a fun idea.
Title: Re: Random, useless suggestion.
Post by: Vibe on December 28, 2011, 10:04:31 am
raw kills - grind
team victories - team dependant
k/d - not a player skill indicator

refuted
Title: Re: Random, useless suggestion.
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on December 28, 2011, 10:24:59 am
refuted

Well yea, on their own these factors suck, but when you combine all of them and possibly some more, it could turn out to be a good indicator
Title: Re: Random, useless suggestion.
Post by: Fuma Kotaro on December 28, 2011, 10:37:32 am
maybe just count the kd on duel
Title: Re: Random, useless suggestion.
Post by: EddyMcK on December 28, 2011, 10:41:21 am
Well yea, on their own these factors suck, but when you combine all of them and possibly some more, it could turn out to be a good indicator

+ A months time would weed out the lucky from the skilled
Title: Re: Random, useless suggestion.
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on December 28, 2011, 01:30:27 pm
Total damage done to opponents not including horses or equipment?
Title: Re: Random, useless suggestion.
Post by: Inkompetent on December 28, 2011, 01:33:16 pm
Total damage done to opponents not including horses or equipment?

Unsure about the latter. Dehorsing people is very nice contribution, but then again people could just as well run after masterless horses just for a few extra points of damage done =/
Title: Re: Random, useless suggestion.
Post by: ArchonAlarion on December 28, 2011, 06:04:18 pm
Best idea that there will be on this thread: Players can initiate polls within the game to nominate players to wear the crown.


The best use will be for crowning particularly hilarious and disruptive players on siege maps imo. Although a legit king of a battle server would be cool too, "kill the king; protect the king," etc.
Title: Re: Random, useless suggestion.
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on December 28, 2011, 06:05:41 pm
Best idea that there will be on this thread: Players can initiate polls to nominate players to wear the crown.

Crown gives 100 head armor with 0 weight  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Random, useless suggestion.
Post by: BootyBuster on December 29, 2011, 12:18:12 am
I don't see how K/D ratio isn't a skill reflection lol? Obviously if your score is shit most of the time it would suggest something.

K/D shows quite a bit. Unless your K/D is low a lot it's not something you want to talk about.

1. what makes a player good at a game that's very skill based?

Teamwork? Yah but that's easy we know what to do. Good at many different builds? yah some people are. Can do things on the fly? yup

So I gotta say The best players would be the monsters who can
1. Feint very, very well while attacking.
2. Footwork, angles spins etc for the kill shot.
3. Amazing blocking

That's about it. If you can't do these things that well you should practice cause your K/D ratio wil be low. If your K'D ratio is low on your team, is it fair to say you're not that good?

K/D is the main skill indicator of skill. But not when you'd use the cookie cutter builds that are easier to get kills with.
So if you're using an easy build to get kills more often then others you shouldn't be considered that good.

Easier builds to win with against more skilled builds. Now I'll say now there are some, very few shielders that are good. But most of them arn't that good when the shield breaks. Go check The guy every noob seems to love Balb out. His shield breaks and "ohh ohh he doesn't seem soo good anymore" To point out he has 24 agility and uses the Elite Scimitar to outswing people. Just to let people know. There's a reason he doesn't play anything else seriously. No 2handers for him or polearms.

Lists of easier builds to start with and easier to kill people with

1. Would be archers and throwers. 1-2 hit kills maybe 3 from far away. good build for beginners to start with but easy to kill with

2. Next and a lot of people use. Shielders. Using a shielder obviously fixes a few problems. Now you don't have to block until it breaks. So the blocking skill is something you don't have to deal with. You could just hold your shield up and wait for backup to save you if you liked. Simple feints left swing, overhead with a fast weapon like the Elite Scimitar. Or others

3. After those it goes into move skilled builds that take advantage of the players raw skills. ( And so you know most builds of 1handers also kill 2handers 2-3 hits as well.)

two handers, Polearms or one hander with no sheild. Commonsense here, I don't need to tell why it's harder then using a bow or throwing crap or wearing a sheild

Now the Cookie cutter Weapons people use to get easier kills with. (If you're trying to outspam someone with a fast build and a fast weapon rather then relying on your own skill you're not good. Aka Outswinging people. That's spamming. Not feinting like a lot of noobs say.

1. Elite Scimitar/ The other sword like it near the bottom of the list.
2. Great maul (Any crushthough weapon)
3. Steel shielder that lasts 20 hits
4. Long spears. to walk people down with a buddy and hold poke so they can't do anything against you or your buddy. Mostly on battle it fixes the problem of you being not that good. Just poke them, they get stunned then hit by your friend. It's an easy thing to do very unskilled.
5. The jumping poke with very long spears. Using only 1 attack, the poke to kill people with. this was suppose to be fixed. But wasn't, you'll be right in front of someone then they jump and spin and poke you with their 15 foot pole. Somehow it hits you when it didn't even come near you.
6.People that walk around in all plate. Most of them suck but still a cheap thing to do.

That's about it for now. I know all the players that use these things won't like this post but so what. They know why they do what they do. Some people say those builds are good to start with and some people don't care about skill they just like getting kills

More things can be added if you people like. The reason I mention these things is because I like to kill people using my own skills and not relying on builds or specific weapons. In every game out there are overpowered weapons or builds. You know in Cod's Bf any game. It's just cheap and pathetic to have to always use them to win. It's okay to fuck around with a build here and there for fun. But to use it seriously all the time, you're just a big fat pussy lol

And for your info I've used 1handers, 2handers, polearms archers all builds. But for fun. I mostly use the 2handers and poles for more enjoyment and skill.

So that's how the Little Burger king crown should go.
Title: Re: Random, useless suggestion.
Post by: Dezilagel on December 29, 2011, 12:22:06 am
I don't see how K/D ratio isn't a skill reflection lol?

Cav.
Title: Re: Random, useless suggestion.
Post by: EddyMcK on December 29, 2011, 07:18:35 am
Best idea that there will be on this thread: Players can initiate polls within the game to nominate players to wear the crown.



Lets give the crown to the most circlejerked person?

Might as well name it "Crown of CoN"
Title: Re: Random, useless suggestion.
Post by: owens on December 29, 2011, 07:23:10 am
If playing this game isnt about killing people.

and isnt about Winning rounds for your team.

and isnt about getting a good k/d.

What is it that you aim for when you play. I really dont want you on my team or in my clan if your goal is not to get kills, survive, or win rounds.
Title: Re: Random, useless suggestion.
Post by: Nagasoup on December 29, 2011, 09:12:01 am
If playing this game isnt about killing people.

and isnt about Winning rounds for your team.

and isnt about getting a good k/d.

What is it that you aim for when you play. I really dont want you on my team or in my clan if your goal is not to get kills, survive, or win rounds.

this  :lol:
Title: Re: Random, useless suggestion.
Post by: Inkompetent on December 29, 2011, 09:47:15 am
Sure is about winning, but a lot of the time it can be more teamwork-friendly to NOT attack and just defend and look threatening, while other people do the actual hurting.

For example a pikeman that just keeps cavalry away from the buddies by pointing the pointy end in the horse's direction to prevent them from coming close is just as much as a teamworker as the guys fighting the enemy infantry, even if he doesn't get to attack a single horse.

It's hard to measure those things, but if anything kills is just a measure of being good at getting the last hit in on people. Be it an agi-build person being good at getting into the back of isolated targets, or a high-strength 2h build that chops off the last 60% hp in one hit on something other people are distracting. The distracting people are doing a just as good job, even though they can't two-hit people.
Title: Re: Random, useless suggestion.
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on December 29, 2011, 12:36:05 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNjc6TRhIpM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNjc6TRhIpM)