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cRPG => Ban/Unban Requests => Unban Essays => Topic started by: Dalbajobas on December 26, 2011, 09:36:05 pm
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I would like to start off by apologising to anyone that my slightly over the top actions may have offended or caused grief. Believe it or not, I do not hate black people/Jews/other races and nationalities and I am by no means a white supremacist. I used offensive jokes mostly with the intent to get a rise out of the players that I knew would take my jokes seriously, rather than to incite racial hatred among the players of CRPG. I realise that trolling is not much better than racism and, therefore, I am not bringing it up as an excuse, but as a way for me to reiterate that the things I said had no true malicious intent.
As the issue of racism is too large and complex to do it justice in a short essay, I will instead focus on the negative effects that such behaviour carries in online communities, in particular, the CRPG community.
Although racism has seen a decline in the real world in the past decades, it is a whole different situation online. Due to widespread anonymity, so-called freedom of speech, and lack of accountability, the Internet has become home to acts of hatred of all kinds, which is especially relevant to international communities, such as CRPG.
One of the most appealing factors of CRPG is the opportunity to meet and get to know people from a vast amount of different countries. Naturally, this also means that a large amount of players will, inevitably, come from different racial and ethnic backgrounds. While such diversity and cultural exchange is clearly beneficial to everyone involved, it also means that we have to keep our differences in mind when interacting with each other something I have clearly failed to take into consideration during my stay here. Ever since I started playing CRPG, I have been frequently spewing offensive jokes directed at particular races, religions or ethnic groups, while effectively paying no attention to the potential distress they may have caused, all for some cheap laughs.. Something I have only come to understand and regret only now.
In conclusion, I would like to apologise once again to those that may have been offended by my actions. I had become oblivious to how uncomfortable and unwelcome I was making other players feel this ban has served as a wake-up call. Rest assured I have taken the feedback into account. In the future, I will refrain from making racist and inconsiderate comments in the chat (a New Year's resolution of sorts!).
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Cheers for writing it, we'll see what the community has to say about it. Personally I believe you've done quite well.
(Please add a poll if you feel up to it.)
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Cheers for writing it, we'll see what the community has to say about it. Personally I believe you've done quite well.
(Please add a poll if you feel up to it.)
I would but there's no option to add a poll. I suppose it can only be done when creating a thread. Either that or I'm just illiterate when it comes to forums.
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I would but there's no option to add a poll. I suppose it can only be done when creating a thread. Either that or I'm just illiterate when it comes to forums.
Ah no worries then. Just see what people say if they bother to post about it. I'll leave it around for a couple of days and then decide what to do with your ban.
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Well done dude, I think i am almost like the first person you offend like many months ago because you play CRPG. Essay is really great. I gotta say you have spend a lot of time doing this. I know you didn't really mean it but just doing it so that specific players can get angry. I hope you get unban as I would like to see you again. 10 out of 10 essay. Good job
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5/5
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5/5 for me too
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nicely done
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Well for a dude that have been banned 7 times for rasicm and once for team killing and once for autoblock, you should know better than continuing your rasicm act until you got this major ban. I mean when I and other ppl said you were banned 3 times for rasicm you started "braging" about it and said "acualy i have been banned more times for rasicm" -ish said. Looks like you've done / spent some time with your post but to be honest you should have quited it when you had the chance instead of going on day after day with your rasict slur...
2/6
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One of your jokes were "What is warm and orange?" "A burning friend"
And "How do you get a friend down from a tree?" "You cut the rope", These jokes can be funny and I found the last one funny but don't only do black man jokes, we want variation :wink:
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Well for a dude that have been banned 7 times for rasicm and once for team killing and once for autoblock, you should know better than continuing your rasicm act until you got this major ban. I mean when I and other ppl said you were banned 3 times for rasicm you started "braging" about it and said "acualy i have been banned more times for rasicm" -ish said. Looks like you've done / spent some time with your post but to be honest you should have quited it when you had the chance instead of going on day after day with your rasict slur...
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This guy is just a pure attention seeker. I will find it very poor form if he is unbanned after 9 bans, including 1 for being caught cheating. I think its also pretty foolish to give these guys another opportunity to draw attention to themselves with threads like this.
Leave it to the admins to decide imo based on evidence ingame, not words on a forum after the fact. You know he will be back to trolling/making the community look like 5 year olds after a period of keeping his head down
What sort of message do you want to send out to the playerbase? I don't think its even worth the time with someone with a track record like that. Ban and don't give people so much leeway imo, especially don't send the message to players that you can get banned 9 times and cheat and carry on playing np
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This guy is just a pure attention seeker. I will find it very poor form if he is unbanned after 9 bans, including 1 for being caught cheating. I think its also pretty foolish to give these guys another opportunity to draw attention to themselves with threads like this.
Leave it to the admins to decide imo based on evidence ingame, not words on a forum after the fact. You know he will be back to trolling/making the community look like 5 year olds after a period of keeping his head down
What sort of message do you want to send out to the playerbase? I don't think its even worth the time with someone with a track record like that. Ban and don't give people so much leeway imo, especially don't send the message to players that you can get banned 9 times and cheat and carry on playing np
If you're on an essay ban, it's your last chance before you're perma-banned. This guy knows that, if he is even caught saying one curse word, he'll be out faster than you can repeat it. (No quarantee on the speed, but his next ban will be permanent.)
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If you're on an essay ban, it's your last chance before you're perma-banned. This guy knows that, if he is even caught saying one curse word, he'll be out faster than you can repeat it. (No quarantee on the speed, but his next ban will be permanent.)
Ok master Tenne I will be on the look out for more curse words from this char.
Does words like fuck, and rape, ass, shitface etc. make a ban?
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Really disappoints me to see the admins are so lenient here. If you got caught cheating in any other game, no matter how long you would be gone. You tell the playerbase that you can cheat, be racist and banned NINE times, and none of it matters until you get an essay ban. Oh then you need to take notice of how you behave on the server, not before because none of that matters. Really ass backwards way to run a game imo
Whoever unbans him is responsible for what he does anyway because there has been ample warning. Whats to stop him selling his gear off to a new account and changing IP, installing autoblock and getting banned 9 times again?
Cheating is a red card anywhere else. Racism red or yellow depending on the admin. It just makes admining 10x harder when no one respects the rules, and makes the playerbase look like shit to any new/casual player. You shouldn't even need people to come here and read a guys attempt to get unbanned, should just be an admins job to ban and not give them this soapbox. I don't want this kind of drama for a guy that gets banned 9 times, thats enough for me now.
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Really disappoints me to see the admins are so lenient here. If you got caught cheating in any other game, no matter how long you would be gone. You tell the playerbase that you can cheat, be racist and banned NINE times, and none of it matters until you get an essay ban. Oh then you need to take notice of how you behave on the server, not before because none of that matters. Really ass backwards way to run a game imo
Whoever unbans him is responsible for what he does anyway because there has been ample warning. Whats to stop him selling his gear off to a new account and changing IP, installing autoblock and getting banned 9 times again?
Cheating is a red card anywhere else. Racism red or yellow depending on the admin. It just makes admining 10x harder when no one respects the rules, and makes the playerbase look like shit to any new/casual player. You shouldn't even need people to come here and read a guys attempt to get unbanned, should just be an admins job to ban and not give them this soapbox. I don't want this kind of drama for a guy that gets banned 9 times, thats enough for me now.
Ban logs state he has been banned 7 times including this one and no where in the logs (that I have access to) does it even red flag him as possibly using a hack.
Secondly, everything stops him, trust the devs to know who has a new account, they have ways of making you talk... I mean, they have ways of knowing who you are, it's pretty simple really, they know if someones on the same IP, they know if you've been perma-banned and buy a new CD Key, and they'll know to be harsh about it if it's what they were originally banned for. Everyone deserves a second chance if they've bought a new Key but they have no right to do what they have again and there is no chance that they will be able to.
Finally, this fellow, as I already said, has not been red flagged (on the logs that I have access to) as a hacker, one of the higher access admins such as Meow maybe able to tell you otherwise but I doubt that he will have been banned for hacking without it being logged for all admins to see.
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http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,15826.msg224768.html#msg224768
Installed and used autoblock. Any other game and you would be banned, no second chances. How can you trust someone who installs cheats? And then let them get banned multiple times and post racist comments repeatedly?
You obviously want to unban him, do what you want but it makes the community look bad
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Well there's your answer, curiosity killed the cat and in this case, he got away with a broken leg and continued to break the others. He's got his neck left and he better be careful.
The problem with perma-banning people with using the autoblocker were very numerous, if you tried it for a couple of hours, in this persons case, it was no more than curiosity to see how something works, it's human nature.
Nonetheless, thank you for proving me wrong, I did attempt to find that thread but was unable to find it.
90% of the people who were unbanned from that point have not committed another offence, they took their second chance and avoided any more trouble however, in this case, he didn't but once again, without justifying anything that this person has done, there aren't many people who have been perma banned and if you're involved with the community enough, i'm sure you can name all those people and what they did.
As I have said, Dalb is on his final chance, there is nothing other than being a model player that could keep him playing cRPG and, as i'm sure everyone already knows, and he himself will explicitly know, he is on his final chance and i'll leave it at that. It's just a nice way to reitterate that point. Take my word for it, he won't offend anymore whether or not that's after his final ban given his release after this essay.
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Ban logs state he has been banned 7 times including this one and no where in the logs (that I have access to) does it even red flag him as possibly using a hack.
Secondly, everything stops him, trust the devs to know who has a new account, they have ways of making you talk... I mean, they have ways of knowing who you are, it's pretty simple really, they know if someones on the same IP, they know if you've been perma-banned and buy a new CD Key, and they'll know to be harsh about it if it's what they were originally banned for. Everyone deserves a second chance if they've bought a new Key but they have no right to do what they have again and there is no chance that they will be able to.
Finally, this fellow, as I already said, has not been red flagged (on the logs that I have access to) as a hacker, one of the higher access admins such as Meow maybe able to tell you otherwise but I doubt that he will have been banned for hacking without it being logged for all admins to see.
Tenne when this guy started appearing after he said he came back after beeing banned for autohack. HE have said countless times that he have been banned for autohack and the other things that have been "talked" about in this thread.
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With Tennes reaction to this bann, I now know that Tenne got a soft hearth.
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TL;DR
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Unban me please , i was banned for team hitting, but i didnt do something like that. My char name Kpblc , profile name Kpblc23. In advace , thank you))
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Unban me please , i was banned for team hitting, but i didnt do something like that. My char name Kpblc , profile name Kpblc23. In advace , thank you))
You don't ask to get unbanned in another unbann essay....
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You don't ask to get unbanned in another unbann essay....
Or in another three.
Go to the appropriate location forum and post your own topic there.
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It's now been over 2 weeks since I posted this, I would appreciate it if a decision could be reached!
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It's now been over 2 weeks since I posted this, I would appreciate it if a decision could be reached!
Tenne said that you had to write a very looong unban essay about why rasicm hurts society.
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I was assigned a 500 word long essay and that's about the length of this essay.
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Read the first page, I've already addressed the poll issue. It's apparently impossible to edit a poll into an existing thread (or this forum being read-only prevents me from doing it)
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What Dalb says is true Alex, please don't intefere.
Effectively I am waiting for a little bit more feedback. I shall leave this for another few days before making a final decision but as I have said previously provided he is unbanned.
I know you want to play but there is a minimum time frame for being banned since it's repeat offences.
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Alright, was just wondering!
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But the opposite of 9 warnings before a perma is admins ban-hammering every single minor offensive like a facist empire.
have to find a balance.
I like the 3 strike system,
its based from baseball, which is based from w.e sport we stole that from,
and is used even today in the U.S. judicial system for criminal offenses,
3rd strike being life, here being perma.
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It pains me to do so but you've served your punishment Dalbajobas.
One more even minor offence, banned by any admin on any server and I will instantly promote it to a perma ban. You have been warned.
EDIT: Well I would but the webby is down atm so you should be unbanned when I next get onto it.
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Tenne you just fell 2 points down my fav. admin list, but you still tops it :mrgreen:
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Cheers! :D
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lol saw this thread now. Dalbo I told you this would happen.
Don't fuck around and everything will be fine Dalbo :wink:
I'm sure you are now intimate with the rules and know exactly where the limit is. My best advice is to remember those limits, and stay within them..
Just know there is also the asshat/common sense rule. Don't be an asshat.
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lol saw this thread now. Dalbo I told you this would happen.
Don't fuck around and everything will be fine Dalbo :wink:
I'm sure you are now intimate with the rules and know exactly where the limit is. My best advice is to remember those limits, and stay within them..
Just know there is also the asshat/common sense rule. Don't be an asshat.
I saw him apologise yesterday, I feel he has learnt! :P
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Online racism is fine, the problem lies in people who are offended BUT those people already have mute <player name> option.
Racism is just a wrong theory (it's too simple, it only take into account few factors and even then it's not precise enough - not to mention that it don't even take into account education and social influence) based upon right facts.
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This guy is just a pure attention seeker. I will find it very poor form if he is unbanned after 9 bans, including 1 for being caught cheating. I think its also pretty foolish to give these guys another opportunity to draw attention to themselves with threads like this.
Leave it to the admins to decide imo based on evidence ingame, not words on a forum after the fact. You know he will be back to trolling/making the community look like 5 year olds after a period of keeping his head down
What sort of message do you want to send out to the playerbase? I don't think its even worth the time with someone with a track record like that. Ban and don't give people so much leeway imo, especially don't send the message to players that you can get banned 9 times and cheat and carry on playing np
As a member of forum jury, i pronounce my verdict :) :
If its true about 9 previous bans - he needs to be permanently muted ( both out- and in-game ). Muted, but able to play. Caught cheating again - 5 year ban. As to the essay - its too dry, un-imaginative, without a single sparkle of sincerity :(