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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: isatis on December 26, 2011, 08:45:01 pm

Title: human meat shield, a harsh story on the void of help.
Post by: isatis on December 26, 2011, 08:45:01 pm
ok, I got a really bad habit: trying ot save my teammate in an heroic way consisting of jumping into the swing of ennemie and getting hit at his place, hoping for teammate to take the opportunity and kill the baddie. (ps i'm an heavy str built with armor and I do that often when like gangbang on very good ppl or just because I feel too lazy to block)

most of the time this result in two of us getting killed or even worse, me getting tk by bad guy.

after that I realize human meat shield was not perfect and I just tried to get implicated by getting near, waiting for swing, and, ally seem to forgot i'm here and give no opportunity, or worst, slice me and get killed after letting me bleeding affronting a berserk guy while i'm shocked, result two of us die.

realizing helping other is a bad habit, I get into the attacking mode. I berserk the way first, but still. I find a peasant to kill, he does no damage, equip want to help me, I get out this figth with 1/4 of my hp remaining... remember peasant cannot harm me... tw.

so now i'm in an alone stand : i wait a bit, killing some faithfull peasant or arrogant bad cav, and I see what can I do, stealing kill on bad gangbang on back my old friend stab, getting in a petty duel with some people, crushing shielder and, for sure, as i'm not in the elit: getting killed by arrow, sword, and other thing.

all this lead me to one question: do teamwork viable in c-rpg? all I see is a greedy run for the kill, people spammin with no care on other, gangbang 4+ on one noob to get a kill. the rare time I see teamwork is with clanmate (exemple: piker+mauler+shielder)

so do teamwork is a lost thing? do we need a guide on how to gangbang someone? use common sens and just don't get into rage kill mode : your k:d is not a way to chow how good you are, it's only the way of saying what role you have

ex:
10-1 you are the killerm the one that post the final blow to enemies
5-5 you are the balanced you do what you can, dueling, gang bang
2-0 you the dueler, the guy that take great player into a fury dance of sword
2-5 you the main mob: you're the guys that harm enemies so killer can achieve them
0-10 you peasant... you make number and serve as human shield.
-3-4 you the greedy one that tk alot to have kills... such a pity.


this post getting no where. bah I just wanted to say that we need to know what our built best for (support/duel/balance/last blow) in order to do a bit more of teamwork.

for new years c-rpg i wish you more teamwork!! so team wound can be forgotten and tw will know mean teamwork!
Title: Re: human meat shield, a harsh story on the void of help.
Post by: SixThumbs on December 26, 2011, 08:56:41 pm
At least you're good at chess, right?
Title: Re: human meat shield, a harsh story on the void of help.
Post by: Casimir on December 26, 2011, 09:15:22 pm
53 - 0 YOU ARE 2H CAV!
Title: Re: human meat shield, a harsh story on the void of help.
Post by: isatis on December 26, 2011, 09:19:08 pm
Quote from: SixThumbs on December 26, 2011, 08:56:41 pm
At least you're good at chess, right?

lol, atleast I got that!

Quote from: Casimir on December 26, 2011, 09:15:22 pm
53 - 0 YOU ARE 2H CAV!

shhh some people may notice and go in the secret OP built...
Title: Re: human meat shield, a harsh story on the void of help.
Post by: Butan on December 26, 2011, 09:22:38 pm
Pub battles are unpredictable swarm of people zombies trying to win doing what they want random stupid things.

I think its the same in all kind of games : you control only yourself, no use getting pissed coz of someone else's behavior.


Just do what you like.
Title: Re: human meat shield, a harsh story on the void of help.
Post by: Nehvar on December 27, 2011, 02:20:26 am
It's usually a waste of time and sanity to help teammates. The moment you show up with your 1WPF bamboo spear to provide stun support they bug the fuck out.  Often leaving you in a very bad spot.  I thoroughly recommend standing back and letting them resolve their fight on their own.  They'd probably hit you in the back anyway.

Well...that's what I try to do.  I frequently find myself jumping in to help those twats against my better judgement.  Your best bet is to find a teammate that you know isn't retarded and stick by him/her.  Good luck with that though.
Title: Re: human meat shield, a harsh story on the void of help.
Post by: oohillac on December 27, 2011, 04:47:21 am
I find some very viable teamwork tactics with randomers are:

as shielder: stick your shield in the enemy's face, and let your mate do the swinging

as pole/2h: keep a swing chambered or keep feinting, that way you don't risk teamkilling but make the enemy block/consider blocking. Works as shielder too

as cav:
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the human meat shield thing would most likely end in a suicide-by-TK the majority of the time
Title: Re: human meat shield, a harsh story on the void of help.
Post by: isatis on December 27, 2011, 03:33:12 pm
as a shielder it work: the most sad thing is when i made an epic charge vs 4 people with 2 teammate behind me... the twoo teammate flee and I get gangbang...

or when I chamber swing like you said  and teammate flee letting me shocked and killed.

so I just stay with good people I know or friend, or just stab stole every kill from envious gangbanger
Title: Re: human meat shield, a harsh story on the void of help.
Post by: Phazey on December 27, 2011, 03:48:22 pm
Sounds like you'd make a good shielder.

Teamplay is very viable in cRPG.  Join a clan, get on TS together and make a 'kill train'. It really works.
Title: Re: human meat shield, a harsh story on the void of help.
Post by: ThePoopy on December 27, 2011, 06:41:53 pm
Nerf sideway and backward walking
Title: Re: human meat shield, a harsh story on the void of help.
Post by: isatis on December 27, 2011, 07:53:06 pm
bah, I use your advice and follow good player and then it's me that teamwound... hum evil isatis. (ps nerf back range of flamberge please it got stuck in all my teammate)

 I should make a pure support shieldy gen with big board shield and teamwork flag.



on a more funny note: tell me your worst experience with crpg so called ''teamplay''!


Title: Re: human meat shield, a harsh story on the void of help.
Post by: JPFaultless on December 27, 2011, 08:08:39 pm
didntevenread
Title: Re: human meat shield, a harsh story on the void of help.
Post by: Kafein on December 27, 2011, 08:47:07 pm
Quote from: ThePoopy on December 27, 2011, 06:41:53 pm
Nerf sideway and backward walking

I could not agree more.