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Strategus => Strategus General Discussion => Topic started by: Lorenzo_of_Iberia on December 24, 2011, 06:52:53 pm

Title: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Lorenzo_of_Iberia on December 24, 2011, 06:52:53 pm
So I wonder if it would be possible for all attackers who have made attacks on xmas day postponed to maybe the 27th or some date where players who want to have xmas day to their families can actually turn up. These attacks are just bad sportsmanship.

Could it be that devs can postpone them for a few days or rather just make attackers auto lose. Ofc that is if the devs / public agree that xmas day is an out of order day to make an assault as it is clearly using the fact that no one is about to defend on xmas day to skip nasty and what would be good battles.

Thank you for your time :)
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Darkoveride on December 24, 2011, 07:05:16 pm
i say we attack them on some russian holiday.
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Cepeshi on December 24, 2011, 07:07:40 pm
the poll is not giving good options at all, i mean, its war, what would you expect? and anw if you attack on russian holiday, they are many, so it wont matter, i guess they will be able to bring enuff ppl
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Overdriven on December 24, 2011, 07:15:48 pm
Douche move. I say auto lose for attackers. Seriously you attack on a day where most of us are going to be spending time with family and it would just be plain wrong to leave for a strat battle?

Dick move indeed.
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Lorenzo_of_Iberia on December 24, 2011, 07:24:09 pm
the poll is not giving good options at all, i mean, its war, what would you expect? and anw if you attack on russian holiday, they are many, so it wont matter, i guess they will be able to bring enuff ppl

This isnt war Cepeshi... Its a game. I know some people would rather live in strategus than in the real world but this is just a game.

Game is something you play for fun, this army of mine was built so I could have fun fighting someone with it. DRZ would rather not play for fun but rather remove other peoples fun because being masters of strategus seems to be not a casual game but rather a need here :P It is guys who take the game too seriously that ruin it for everyone else.
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Cepeshi on December 24, 2011, 07:29:35 pm
Yeah, it sucks for the majority, but still, for instance, i am sitting at work 2pm till 10pm, so no family, no dinner, no gifts, no nothing  :mrgreen:

I can understand your frustration, but you cannot expect whole world to stop cause you want to get stuffed and unwrap some presents :)
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: [ptx] on December 24, 2011, 07:31:45 pm
Actually, you can. It is called common sense and decency. Still not quite extinct in the modern world, y'know.
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Cepeshi on December 24, 2011, 07:32:23 pm
Obviously extinct in Russia  :twisted:
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Overdriven on December 24, 2011, 07:33:42 pm
Indeed. Respecting other peoples holidays (especially huge ones such as this) is simply the decent thing to do. If we attacked the Russians and it happened to be on some holiday where the vast majority of them would not be available as a result, I would withdraw the attack.

And working Cepeshi is different. My sister used to work all of Christmas Day for several years. But strategus is not work. It's a game, thus you are not really obligated to do it on Christmas Day.
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Tomas on December 24, 2011, 07:34:02 pm
The best option for the future would just be to suspend Strat over Christmas and new year.

Bit late now for this year but a 2 week break from the 23rd Dec to the 7th Jan would stop all this and give everybody a bit of respite.
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Lorenzo_of_Iberia on December 24, 2011, 07:34:53 pm
Yeah, it sucks for the majority, but still, for instance, i am sitting at work 2pm till 10pm, so no family, no dinner, no gifts, no nothing  :mrgreen:

I can understand your frustration, but you cannot expect whole world to stop cause you want to get stuffed and unwrap some presents :)

Funny cause the whole world mostly does stop for a day for the majority :P Its pretty much considered a world wide holiday where very few people dont have anything to do. I am sorry you are working at xmas but the majority of this community will be celebrating christmas day and generally not giving a fuck about anything else :P
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Cepeshi on December 24, 2011, 07:39:13 pm
No need to be sorry for me, 4th year in a row while i serve thru xmas, but i do not mind :) I can have nice time with my family any other day, but with all the shops opened  :twisted: haha yeah, tru, they are bunch of bad ugly russians who does not like celebrating our xmases and stuff, bleh...  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Lorenzo_of_Iberia on December 24, 2011, 07:43:01 pm
Moreover I guess we should take it as a complement :P

They clearly dont have faith in their 250 heavily armed troops when fighting 150 armed GK troops when fighting a fair fight ;)
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Overdriven on December 24, 2011, 07:45:27 pm
Ah well our swarm of cavalry would overwhelm them in a fair fight :P

Must say, this is pretty much the final straw for this strat for me if this goes through. Dick moves/bugs/lack of horses (till recently) has just finished it for me.
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Lorenzo_of_Iberia on December 24, 2011, 07:52:20 pm
Ah well our swarm of cavalry would overwhelm them in a fair fight :P

Must say, this is pretty much the final straw for this strat for me if this goes through. Dick moves/bugs/lack of horses (till recently) has just finished it for me.

my feeling too :P
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Cepeshi on December 24, 2011, 07:53:30 pm
You should have stayed away from the beginning :)  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Lorenzo_of_Iberia on December 24, 2011, 07:54:05 pm
You should have stayed away from the beginning :)  :mrgreen:

I had a dream :P Its been smashed now  :cry:
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Cepeshi on December 24, 2011, 07:59:45 pm
Yeah, sad but true. That is what happens to dreams quite often...
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Segd on December 24, 2011, 08:11:23 pm
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its your fault
, untermensch!  8-)
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Teeth on December 24, 2011, 08:26:26 pm
What the fuck, really thought Christmas day was on the 25th. You other countries really messed up the Eve/Day thingy.
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Cepeshi on December 24, 2011, 08:28:12 pm
Well, for us in Czech republic we have the xmas eve 24th, with the gifts and dinners and such :) I believe it is similar to most of mid europe countries, but i do not mind being corrected.
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Nebun on December 24, 2011, 08:42:57 pm
If you using christmas hols as safe time to move around the map or move reinforcements - this is not going to work.
Why didn't you just stay in HRE village over holidays? :)
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Lorenzo_of_Iberia on December 24, 2011, 09:14:05 pm
If you using christmas hols as safe time to move around the map or move reinforcements - this is not going to work.
Why didn't you just stay in HRE village over holidays? :)

Paranoid much :P I was just moving to chaos lands to get some goods ;)
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Lorenzo_of_Iberia on December 25, 2011, 12:01:35 am
On the upside I will be drunk tomorrow so I could lead my small force to victory when wasted :P
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Darkoveride on December 25, 2011, 12:07:07 am
Fear my wrath tommorow as i will be Drunk on WIN SAUCE! you will Marvel Before my magnificents!
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Overdriven on December 25, 2011, 12:20:09 am
Pfft I'm already drunk so I shall swiftly bring retributuon to the bloody russians...asl ong as I get some money and my men don't desert first :D

Along with my 103 trained equus africanus asinuss. That's right russians...attack me!!! I have chadz on my side! :twisted:
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Harafat on December 25, 2011, 05:43:45 pm
i mean, its war

NO, its not war, its a wargame. For a game to be played you need 2 sides fighting each other. If there is only 1 side, there is no game.

This is by far the most dickless move i've ever seen in an online-game. I am honestly disgusted by this community who would indeed kill and rape their own mother to take a fief from an opposing faction.
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Nebun on December 25, 2011, 06:19:54 pm
unlike jesus, when we get a slap, we slap back and kick in the balls
when you crossed the line in our understanding, it doesn't mean we will equally cross the same line in the same way, we don't want to get even - we want a lot more  :twisted:
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Blondin on December 25, 2011, 06:41:38 pm
Awesome...
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Lepintoi on December 25, 2011, 06:54:11 pm
unlike jesus, when we get a slap, we slap back and kick in the balls
when you crossed the line in our understanding, it doesn't mean we will equally cross the same line in the same way, we don't want to get even - we want a lot more  :twisted:

I think you are now blaming the mercs for not rolling over and die by keeping the bug-won-gear and thus delay their demise. You would do the same if you were cornered by 3 major clans...
Just be patient, you will route them off the map, just don't do it on Christmas...
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Nebun on December 25, 2011, 08:19:57 pm
I think you are now blaming the mercs for not rolling over and die by keeping the bug-won-gear and thus delay their demise. You would do the same if you were cornered by 3 major clans...
Just be patient, you will route them off the map, just don't do it on Christmas...

No Lepintoi.
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: MountedRhader on December 25, 2011, 09:00:24 pm
Actually, you can. It is called common sense and decency. Still not quite extinct in the modern world, y'know.
No it is not quite snuffed out yet. Just not yet.

This should be expected though from DRZ, as they have a history of being archers, a dick move in itself.

One thing is certain: It's certainly extinct (or never existed) in Russia.

My advice is just drop Strategus and cRPG all together and brave the real world, as it is much more fulfilling for your social cravings than sitting in front of a screen in a dark room (I am speaking from experience.)

Well gentlemen, I'm off to spend the day with my family, Merry Christmas!



Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Lepintoi on December 25, 2011, 09:44:50 pm
If you using christmas hols as safe time to move around the map or move reinforcements - this is not going to work.
Why didn't you just stay in HRE village over holidays? :)

Because the rent is just too damn high!
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Overdriven on December 25, 2011, 10:16:05 pm
Well not to bad a result considering:

Druzhina_Archer_KMC vs GK_Lorenzo_of_Numidia

- Battle time: 25.12., 22:00
- Battle duration: 08m40s
- Army size: 259 vs 150
- Battle result: 158 vs 0
- Winner: Attacker
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: 22nd_King_Plazek on December 26, 2011, 06:35:32 pm
I agree 100% with the sentiments expressed by the OP and the crying mercs, it is clearly wrong to play a game when you want to play it. However I also feel it is immoral not to support all countries and all world religions equally, thus I suggest in the spirit of equality, fairness and Christmas spirit this movement for greater sportsmanship and super fun times.

I hereby demand that all national holidays around the world cause strategus to become frozen and or attacks to auto lose in the event of them being made.

Please refer to this list of national holidays around the globe:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_holidays_by_country

I also demand that all religious holidays be recognised and offered the same protection:

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JANUARY 2012

    * 1
          o Mary, Mother of God - Catholic Christian
          o Feast of St Basil - Orthodox Christian
          o Gantan-sai (New Years) - Shinto
          o Feast of the Holy Name of Jesus - Orthodox Christian
    * 5
          o Twelfth Night - Christian
          o Guru Gobindh Singh birthday - Sikh
    * 6
          o Epiphany - Christian
          o Feast of the Theophany - Orthodox Christian
          o Dia de los Reyes - Hispanic Christians
          o Nativity of Christ - Armenian Orthodox
    * 7
          o Feast of the Nativity ** - Orthodox Christian
    * 8
          o Baptism of Jesus - Christian
    * 9-12
          o Mahayana New Year ** - Buddhist
    * 13
          o Maghi - Sikh
    * 15
          o World Religion Day * - Baha'i
    * 17
          o Blessing of the Animals - Hispanic Catholic Christian
    * 18-25
          o Week of Prayer for Christian Unity - Christian
    * 20
          o Timkat - Ethiopian Orthodox Christian
    * 23
          o Chinese New Year - Confucian, Daoist, Buddhist
    * 25
          o Conversion of Saint Paul - Christian
    * 28
          o Vasant Panchami ** - Hindu

Definitions
FEBRUARY 2012

    * 2
          o Candlemas - Christian
          o Presentation of Christ in the Temple - Anglican Christian
          o Triodion - Orthodox Christian
          o Imbolc - Lughnassad * - Wicca/Pagan Northern and southern hemispheres
    * 3
          o Maha Shavartri ** - Hindu
          o Setsubum-sai - Shinto
    * 4
          o Mawlid an Nabi * - Islam
    * 5
          o Four Chaplains Sunday- Interfaith
    * 8
          o Tu BiShvat * - Judaism
    * 14
          o Saint Valentines Day - Christian
    * 15
          o Nirvana Day ** - Buddhist - Jain
    * 19
          o Meatfare Sunday - Orthodox Christian
          o Transfiguration - Christian
    * 21
          o Shrove Tuesday - Christian
    * 22
          o Ash Wednesday - Lent begins- Christian
    * 26 - March 1
          o Intercalary Days * - Baha'i
          o Cheesefare Sunday - Orthodox Christian
    * 27
          o Clean Monday - Great Lent begins - Orthodox Christian

Definitions
MARCH 2012

    * 1
          o Saint David of Wales - Christian
    * 2 - 20
          o Nineteen Day Fast * - Baha'i
    * 4
          o Orthodox Sunday - Orthodox Christian
    * 8
          o Purim * - Judaism
          o Magha Puja Day ** - Buddhist
          o Holi ** - Hindu
    * 9
          o Hola Mohalla - Sikh
    * 13
          o L Ron Hubbard birthday ** - Scientology
    * 17
          o St Patrick's Day - Christian
    * 19
          o Saint Joseph's Day - Christian
    * 20 Equinox
          o Ostara * - Wicca/Pagan northern hemisphere
          o Mabon * - Wicca/Pagan southern hemisphere
    * 21
          o Naw Ruz (New Year) * - Baha'i
          o Norouz (New Year) - Persian/Zoroastrian
    * 23
          o New Year ** - Hindu
          o Prophet Zarathustra birth - Zoroastrian
    * 23-April 1
          o Ramayana ** - Hindu
    * 25
          o Annunciation of the Blessed Virgin Mary - Christian
    * 28
          o Khordad Sal (Birth of Prophet Zaranhushtra) ** - Zoroastrian

Definitions
APRIL 2012

    * 1
          o Palm Sunday - Christian
          o Ramanavami - Hindu
    * 5
          o Maundy Thursday - Christian
    * 6-9
          o Theravadin New Year ** - Buddhist
    * 6
          o Good Friday - Christian
          o Lord's Evening Meal - Jehovah's Witness Christians
          o Hanuman Jayanti - Hindu
          o Mahavir Jayanti ** - Jain
    * 7-14 
          o Pesach (Passover)   * - Judaism
    * 7
          o Lazarus Saturday - Orthodox Christian
    * 8
          o Easter - Christian
          o Palm Sunday - Orthodox Christian
    * 13
          o Holy Friday - Orthodox Christian
    * 14
          o Baisakhi New Year - Sikh
    * 15
          o Easter/Pascha - Orthodox Christian
    * 19
          o Yom HaShoah * - Judaism
    * 21
          o First Day of Ridvan * - Baha'i
    * 23
          o St. George Day - Christian
    * 27
          o Yom Ha'Atzmaut * - Jewish
    * 29
          o Ninth Day of Ridvan * - Baha'i
    * 30
          o Saint James the Great Day - Orthodox Christian
          o Lazarus Saturday - Orthodox Christian

Definitions
MAY 2012

    * 1
          o Palm Sunday - Orthodox Christian
          o Beltane - Samhain - Wicca/Pagan Northern and Southern hemispheres
    * 2
          o Twelfth Day of Ridvan * - Baha'i
    * 3
          o National Day of Prayer - Interfaith USA
    * 6
          o Visakha Puja - Buddha Day ** - Buddhist
    * 10
          o Lag B'Omer * - Jewish
    * 17
          o Ascension Day - Christian
    * 23
          o Declaration of the Bab * - Baha'i
    * 24
          o All Ascension of Jesus - Orthodox Christian
    * 27
          o Pentecost - Christian
    * 27-28
          o Shavuot * - Jewish
    * 29
          o Ascension of Baha'u'llah * - Baha'i

Definitions
JUNE 2012

    * 3
          o Trinity Sunday - Christian
    * 7
          o Corpus Christi - Catholic Christian
    * 3
          o Pentecost - Orthodox Christian
    * 9
          o Saint Columba of Iona - Christian
    * 10
          o All Saints - Orthodox Christian
    * 16
          o Lailat al Miraj * ** - Islam
          o Guru Arjan Dev martyrdom - Sikh
    * 15
          o Sacred Heart of Jesus - Catholic Christian
    * 19
          o New Church Day - Swedenborgian Christian
    * 20 Solstice
          o Litha * - Wicca/Pagan northern hemisphere
          o Yule * - Wicca/Pagan  southern hemisphere
    * 29
          o Saints Peter and Paul - Christian

Definitions
JULY 2012

    * 3
          o Asalha Puja Day ** - Buddhist
    * 4
          o Lailat at Bara'ah * ** - Islam
    * 9
          o Martyrdom of the Bab * - Baha'i
    * 13-16
          o Obon  ** - Buddhist - Shinto
    * 15
          o Saint Vladimir Day - Christian
    * 20
          o Ramadan Begins * ** - Islam
    * 23
          o Emperor Haile Selassi I birthday - Rastafari
    * 24
          o Pioneer Day - Mormon Christian
    * 25
          o Saint James the Great Day - Christian
    * 29
          o Tisha B'Av * - Judaism

Definitions
AUGUST 2012

    * 1
          o Fast in Honor of Holy Mother of Jesus - Orthodox Christian
          o Lammas - Christian
    * 2
          o Raksha Bandhan ** - Hindu
          o Lugnassad - Imbolc * - Wicca/Pagan Northern and southern hemispheres
    * 6
          o Transfiguration of the Lord - Orthodox Christian
    * 10
          o Krishna Janmashtami ** - Hindu
    * 14
          o Lailat al Kadr * ** - Islam
    * 15
          o Assumption of Virgin Mary - Catholic Christian
          o Dormition of the Theotokos - Orthodox Christian
    * 19-21
          o Eid al Fitr * ** - Islam
    * 29
          o Beheading of John the Baptist - Christian

Definitions
SEPTEMBER 2012

    * 1
          o Ecclesiastical Year begins - Orthodox Christian
    * 8
          o Nativity of Mary - Christian
    * 14
          o Elevation of the Life Giving Cross - Holy Cross Day - Christian
    * 17-18
          o Rosh HaShanah * - Judaism
    * 19
          o Ganesh Chaturthi ** - Hindu
    * 20-29
          o Paryushana Parva ** - Jain
    * 22 Equinox
          o Mabon * - Wicca/Pagan northern hemisphere
          o Ostata * - Wicca/ Pagan southern hemisphere
    * 26
          o Yom Kippur * - Judaism
    * 28
          o Mesket- Ethiopian Orthodox Christian
    * 29
          o Michael and All Angels - Christian

Definitions
OCTOBER 2012

    * 4
          o Saint Francis DayCatholic Christian
    * 1-7 (1-2 Primary Obligation Days)
          o Sukkot * - Judaism
    * 8
          o Shemini Atzeret * - Judaism
          o Thanksgiving - Canada - Interfaith
    * 9
          o Simhat Torah *- Judaism
    * 16-23
          o Navaratri ** - Hindu
    * 18
          o Saint Luke - Apostle and Evangelist - Christian
    * 20
          o Birth of the Báb * - Baha'i
          o Installation of Scriptures as Gukru Granth - Sikh
    * 24
          o Dasera ** - Hindu
    * 25
          o Waqf al Arafa - Hajj Day * - Islam
    * 26-29
          o Eid al Adha * ** - Islam
    * 28
          o Milvian Bridge Day - Christian
          o Reformation Day ** - Protestant Christian
    * 31
          o All Hallows Eve - Christian

Definitions
NOVEMBER 2012

    * 1
          o All Saint's Day - Christian
          o Samhain - Beltane * - Wicca/Pagan Northern and Southern hemispheres
    * 2
          o All Soul's Day - Catholic Christian
    * 11
          o Jain New Year ** - Jain
    * 11-15
          o Deepavali  ** - Hindu
    * 12
          o Birth of Baha'u'llah * - Bahai
    * 13
          o Diwali - Deepavali ** - Hindu - Jain - Sikh
    * 15
          o Hijra - New Year * ** - Islam
          o Nativity Fast through 12-25 - Orthodox Christian
    * 22
          o Thanksgiving  USA - Interfaith
    * 21
          o Yule - Christian
    * 24
          o Ashura * ** - Islam
          o Guru Tegh Bahadur Martyrdom - Sikh
    * 25
          o Christ the King - Christian
    * 26
          o Day of the Covenant * - Baha'i
    * 28
          o Ascension of Abdu'l-Baha * - Baha'i
          o Guru Nanak Dev Sahib birthday - Sikh
    * 30
          o Saint Andrew's Day - Christian

Definitions
DECEMBER 2012

    * 2
          o Advent - First Sunday - Christian
    * 6
          o Saint Nicholas Day - Christian
    * 8
          o Rohatsu (Bodhi Day)  ** - Buddhist
          o Immaculate Conception of Mary - Catholic Christian
    * 9-16
          o Hanukkah * - Judaism
    * 16-25
          o Posadas Navidenas - Christian
    * 21  Solstice
          o Yule * - Wicca/Pagan northern hemisphere
          o Litha * - Wicca/Pagan southern hemisphere
          o Yule - Christian
    * 25
          o Christmas * - Christian
          o Feast of the Nativity ** - Orthodox Christians
    * 26
          o Zarathosht Diso (Death of Prophet Zarathushtra ** - Zoroastrian
    * 28
          o Holy Innocents - Christian
    * 30
          o Feast of the Holy Family - Catholic Christian
    * 31
          o Watch Night - Christian


Clearly attacking anyone during any of these important days is unsportsmanlike and so should be prohibited!
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Nebun on December 26, 2011, 06:47:10 pm
Don't forget we got our own huge list of holidays and also asian :)) so there is a holiday everyday
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Elmokki on December 26, 2011, 07:03:48 pm
For me the main Christmas holiday is 24th and I'm generally away from my proper gaming computer for at least a week, qq, make anything I would participate not happen during that.

Seriously, sure, it's kind of foul play to attack another group of players that has a big holiday when you don't, but such is life. If you want to start taking into account times when considerable amounts of playerbase have big holidays you'll have a huge list of stuff like that. Midsummer is big thing in Finland and probably some other European countries. Thanksgiving is big in the US (and Canada, no clue?) but isn't celebarated in Europe.

Easiest way to deal with this is to either a) prepare for things like this with a diverse playerbase (even if current NA-EU split makes having a clan with both continents represented worse than before) b) just strike those who do this on their holidays. The Orthodox holidays follow Julian calendar while most of Europe and US follow Gregorian calendar so the (religious) holidays tend to be on different dates anyway.
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: Turkhammer on December 26, 2011, 08:58:27 pm
All the big clans are just going to have to have a duty roster to cover all contingencies.  The junior guys get Christmas and holidays.  Sux to play strat 24/7/365. :lol:
Title: Re: Xmas day attacks!
Post by: kura on December 27, 2011, 02:12:28 pm
If you attack me/us/my/our clan/etc and i/we/my cat/etc will be drunk/nirvana/fuck this/resort/funeral/etc its my problem,not yours.

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