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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Realism Discussion => Topic started by: FRANK_THE_TANK on December 13, 2011, 12:13:01 am

Title: [Stats] Steel buckler
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on December 13, 2011, 12:13:01 am
Its 2 high by 2 wide but its not round or square, what is it? Impossibly stupid!

Make it 3 high or I will cry.

:D
Title: Re: [Stats] Steel buckler
Post by: Gisbert_of_Thuringia on December 13, 2011, 09:38:50 am
There is alot more stupid about the buckler.

How can a guy, who holds this little shield infront of his belly, block arrows that go either to his head or his feet, without even moving the shield?

It is a very fast and stable shield, but something has to be done about the "forcefield" of this thing.

advantage should be: strong shield, very fast at blocking and swings to follow
disadvantage should be: almost impossible to block arrows, except if the archer aims for the shield or the shielder immediately raises or lowers the shield's position
Title: Re: [Stats] Steel buckler
Post by: dodnet on December 13, 2011, 11:20:41 am
There is alot more stupid about the buckler.

How can a guy, who holds this little shield infront of his belly, block arrows that go either to his head or his feet, without even moving the shield?

It is a very fast and stable shield, but something has to be done about the "forcefield" of this thing.

advantage should be: strong shield, very fast at blocking and swings to follow
disadvantage should be: almost impossible to block arrows, except if the archer aims for the shield or the shielder immediately raises or lowers the shield's position

+1

If you look at a wielder after catching some arrows, most of them arrows don't even stick on the shield itself but in his arm.
Title: Re: [Stats] Steel buckler
Post by: Elmokki on December 13, 2011, 10:01:28 pm
It's not like it's a good shield I'd trust if an archer shoots me. It's fairly easy to get a foot/headshot while keeping it up.
Title: Re: [Stats] Steel buckler
Post by: Gisbert_of_Thuringia on December 13, 2011, 11:42:47 pm
It's not like it's a good shield I'd trust if an archer shoots me. It's fairly easy to get a foot/headshot while keeping it up.

Actually it's not that fairly easy...and no, I'm no noobarcher who doesn't know where to shoot at for such a shot
Title: Re: [Stats] Steel buckler
Post by: ArchonAlarion on December 14, 2011, 12:56:29 am
Even more stupidity: Why is shield difficulty based (indirectly) on Agility?

27/12? Can't use a huscarl shield. You are not fast enough to use a huscarl shield, sorry.
Title: Re: [Stats] Steel buckler
Post by: Tonyukuk on December 14, 2011, 12:19:50 pm
if we are talking about reality , buckler cant hold arrows its bullshit !! Also it is strong.I havent seen any soldier carrying the buckler(or like)  in the old battles :S
Who invented the this fucking shield?

PLEASE REMOVE THİS SHİELD..there are too many shield ın the game.Shielders can use them..
Title: Re: [Stats] Steel buckler
Post by: Dezilagel on December 14, 2011, 04:21:43 pm
Actually it's not that fairly easy...and no, I'm no noobarcher who doesn't know where to shoot at for such a shot

Ahaha...
Title: Re: [Stats] Steel buckler
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on December 14, 2011, 04:47:26 pm
I havent seen any soldier carrying the buckler(or like)  in the old battles :S
Who invented the this fucking shield?


lololol u twat, buckler was developed for dueling etc. it was very popular among sailors, fencers and musketeers thanks to its fast blocking performance and versatile usage in melee.
Title: Re: [Stats] Steel buckler
Post by: Plaksteris on December 14, 2011, 08:27:48 pm
if we are talking about reality , buckler cant hold arrows its bullshit !! Also it is strong.I havent seen any soldier carrying the buckler(or like)  in the old battles :S
Who invented the this fucking shield?

PLEASE REMOVE THİS SHİELD..there are too many shield ın the game.Shielders can use them..

Sikhi invented em!
Title: Re: [Stats] Steel buckler
Post by: Bobthehero on December 15, 2011, 06:06:58 am
Anyone wonder how METAL shields explode when you hit them? They should be pretty much undestructable.
Title: Re: [Stats] Steel buckler
Post by: dodnet on December 15, 2011, 09:04:27 am
The buckler should have its place in the game but its stats should be changed drastically. If you watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8RWLxlzTiM you'll see you need a shitload of experience to even block a normal weapon like a spear. But definatly you wont be able to block ANY incoming arrow except by luck if it hits the small buckler directly. The current implementation is just wrong as you block every incoming hit and arrow. Thats only possible in Matrix slowmotion.

The forcefield should be reduced to such a small area, that you really have to point at an incoming attack to block it.
Title: Re: [Stats] Steel buckler
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 15, 2011, 09:25:49 am


The forcefield should be reduced to such a small area, that you really have to point at an incoming attack to block it.

The Problem is, noone would play with it anymore then.

But I got a Solution for it.Make the Bucklers 0 slots!ANd do the thing you mentioned.Both will leave them viable.
Title: Re: [Stats] Steel buckler
Post by: Dezilagel on December 15, 2011, 09:27:24 am
The Problem is, noone would play with it anymore then.

But I got a Solution for it.Make the Bucklers 0 slots!ANd do the thing you mentioned.Both will leave them viable.

Check the equipment page :P
Title: Re: [Stats] Steel buckler
Post by: dodnet on December 15, 2011, 10:32:40 am
Check the equipment page :P

I don't see slots on any shield on the equipment page (website)
Title: Re: [Stats] Steel buckler
Post by: Dezilagel on December 15, 2011, 12:26:40 pm
I don't see slots on any shield on the equipment page (website)

Alright, then check the "announcements" section
Title: Re: [Stats] Steel buckler
Post by: Jarlek on December 15, 2011, 03:03:04 pm
Alright, then check the "announcements" section
Or you could just tell them the buckler is 0 slots  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [Stats] Steel buckler
Post by: Dezilagel on December 15, 2011, 03:57:27 pm
Or you could just tell them the buckler is 0 slots  :rolleyes:

What? Nooooo
Title: Re: [Stats] Steel buckler
Post by: Jarlek on December 15, 2011, 04:00:02 pm
What? Nooooo
What? Yeeees
Title: Re: [Stats] Steel buckler
Post by: Gravoth_iii on December 15, 2011, 04:34:52 pm
Should be able to block melee like any shield but not arrows, and still be durable, light and fast. Pretty strange now that they block arrows too, big advantage using them since they only weigh 3.5 and 2
Title: Re: [Stats] Steel buckler
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 15, 2011, 06:07:24 pm
Well if its 0 slots already t should be made a bit cheaper imo.

Also Difficulty lowered to 3 or smthg.
Title: Re: [Stats] Steel buckler
Post by: Aleskander on January 05, 2012, 02:28:53 am
It should be made cheaper, easier and better. Elite cav is better in every way ATM. I don't know if it's possible to remove forcefields for just one item, but it should be done.
Title: Re: [Stats] Steel buckler
Post by: Malaclypse on January 05, 2012, 03:18:58 pm
It blocks arrows outside of it's model, sure, but it also has a huge window where it won't block projectiles unless you are actually turning/moving the shield up and down to do so.
Title: Re: [Stats] Steel buckler
Post by: Aleta on February 18, 2012, 04:28:34 pm
I think having the metal shields as indestructible would be good. Bucklers could lack the ability to block missiles, and the steel shield could be insanely heavy (like 25kg) and have a speed rating of 12. That way the steel shields would be pretty crap for dueling, but make the shielder immortal except against crushthrough and backstabbing.
Title: Re: [Stats] Steel buckler
Post by: Ptolemy on February 20, 2012, 03:56:36 pm
make the shielder immortal except against crushthrough and backstabbing.

You honestly think that is a good idea?

Remove the forcefield, make the small shields actually block the size they're supposed to, or change the stats on the website to reflect their actual ability, don't just bullshit about it.
Title: Re: [Stats] Steel buckler
Post by: Aleta on February 21, 2012, 12:57:56 am
I am also suggesting that those who choose those uber shields would walk like a caterpillar and using a second to draw out his sword.