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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Vodner on December 12, 2011, 03:27:51 am

Title: WPF and Melee Speed
Post by: Vodner on December 12, 2011, 03:27:51 am

Today I made an alt, and recorded a few swings of the barmace and the bastard sword at 1, 50, 100, 150, and 172 wpf.

Playlist here (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC9E37C5A83D5F5CB).

Unfortunately I accidentally captured BigSandwich's Steam friends name in the 1 wpf bastard sword video, so I've cut it out of the playlist for now until I can edit it out.

Title: Re: WPF and Melee Speed
Post by: Xant on December 12, 2011, 03:29:27 am

tl;dr? :D
 
What conclusions did you reach?

Title: Re: WPF and Melee Speed
Post by: Vodner on December 12, 2011, 03:31:13 am

Quote from: Xant on December 12, 2011, 03:29:27 am

tl;dr? :D
 
What conclusions did you reach?

I personally can't tell much of a difference past 50 wpf for the bastard sword, and past 100 wpf for the barmace. That's just me though - I could be mistaken.

Title: Re: WPF and Melee Speed
Post by: Xant on December 12, 2011, 03:33:28 am

Checked the videos.. I think you should have done the same swing for longer time/the whole time. It'd be easier to check the differences then and even count how many extra attacks you get off in a given amount of time. Can't really tell the difference from those videos... although there might not really be any noticeable difference.

Title: Re: WPF and Melee Speed
Post by: Jarlek on December 12, 2011, 04:40:23 am

Interesting...

Title: Re: WPF and Melee Speed
Post by: Turkhammer on December 12, 2011, 05:22:23 am

So, if not speed, what effect does WPF give?

Title: Re: WPF and Melee Speed
Post by: rustyspoon on December 12, 2011, 05:27:45 am

Quote from: Turkhammer on December 12, 2011, 05:22:23 am

So, if not speed, what effect does WPF give?

Damage. At 100 WPF the weapon is performing at its listed stats. Also, according to Walt's previous research, 100 WPF will give you a swing speed increase of roughly 1/10th of a second. Again, not a huge deal. That's why after armor penalty you only need around 100 WPF.

Title: Re: WPF and Melee Speed
Post by: Mala on December 12, 2011, 05:37:43 am

The difference from wpf is not that huge. I think the estimation of waltf4 was "for every 60 wpf you gain 1 point in weapon speed".

Title: Re: WPF and Melee Speed
Post by: Xant on December 12, 2011, 05:52:34 am

Yeah. Personally I take WM for the damage.

Title: Re: WPF and Melee Speed
Post by: SixThumbs on December 12, 2011, 06:00:55 am

Does damage correlate in a similar way as the "1 speed per 60 wpf"?

Title: Re: WPF and Melee Speed
Post by: EyeBeat on December 12, 2011, 09:15:30 am

Quote from: rustyspoon on December 12, 2011, 05:27:45 am

Damage. At 100 WPF the weapon is performing at its listed stats. Also, according to Walt's previous research, 100 WPF will give you a swing speed increase of roughly 1/10th of a second. Again, not a huge deal. That's why after armor penalty you only need around 100 WPF.

This is bull.

WPF should mean something.  I am sick and tired of this game catering to hybrids.  We have strategus so people can specialize in certain play styles.  Please put limitations on all weapons using WPF.  Also make WPF mean something.

Title: Re: WPF and Melee Speed
Post by: Vibe on December 12, 2011, 09:36:13 am

Quote from: EyeBeatWomen on December 12, 2011, 09:15:30 am

This is bull.

WPF should mean something.  I am sick and tired of this game catering to hybrids.  We have strategus so people can specialize in certain play styles.  Please put limitations on all weapons using WPF.  Also make WPF mean something.

This. WM has little to offer compared to skills like PS, IF or ATH.