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Title: New Mouse
Post by: Earthdforce on December 09, 2011, 12:38:13 am
So..my good ol' (basically free) wired microsoft mouse just went and died on me, and I'd like some ideas out there for a replacement. I don't really care about the cost, but I'd like to keep it under hundreds of dollars, of course  :rolleyes:, and cheaper is better :mrgreen:




EDIT: So yeah, I think anything under 50 would be within my price range.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Torben on December 09, 2011, 12:39:37 am
dude i am using some weird laser mouse whatever high sensitivity crap and just keep on failing.  i want my old crappy mouse back : /
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Earthdforce on December 09, 2011, 12:40:36 am
Yeah, I've never used a wireless mouse, but I've never heard anything good about them.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Xant on December 09, 2011, 01:08:59 am
http://steelseries.com/products/mice/steelseries-sensei
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Earthdforce on December 09, 2011, 01:40:49 am
http://steelseries.com/products/mice/steelseries-sensei
Wow, that just seems like way too much xD
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Vexus on December 09, 2011, 02:36:35 am
Razer Death Adder.

Now it will be cheaper but still a great gaming mouse.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Nessaj on December 09, 2011, 04:13:51 am
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Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Xant on December 09, 2011, 04:20:57 am
...sucks
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: bilwit on December 09, 2011, 05:45:56 am
Get a Logitech G400 (http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Black-Buttons-Optical-Gaming/dp/B005I9XREO) if you want a good, reliable mouse with your standard button setup that's like 40 bucks. Has everything you'll ever need; anything else is for show really. My roommate (and everyone else) has a Razor DeathAdder (http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Deathadder-Infrared-Gaming-RZ01-00151400-R3/dp/B002Q4U5DK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323405920&sr=8-1) and I use a NAOS 5000 (http://www.amazon.com/Mionix-Naos-Laser-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B003YJFV94/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1323405888&sr=1-1).
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Vibe on December 09, 2011, 09:52:06 am
I use Logitech MX518 and it's great, G400 seems it's an improvement from it (and also cheap), so I'd go for what bilwit said.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 09, 2011, 03:12:46 pm
Get a Sharkoon Fireglider, its a full scale Gaming mouse for about 20 bucks.

I use it for 2 years now, its still kickin´

edit: just for clarification, I mean this one: http://www.amazon.com/Sharkoon-FireGlider-LASER-GAMING-MOUSE/dp/B001QYN9ES/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1323440328&sr=1-1-catcorr

Not available at Amazon.com currently, but I bet you could get it elsewhere.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Lysander on December 09, 2011, 03:17:23 pm
I'm using this mouse:
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-MGC-00001-Wireless-Mouse-5000/dp/B0021Y73W6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323440175&sr=8-1

It's a wireless mouse and its working fine for me.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Mtemtko on December 09, 2011, 03:59:33 pm
Razer deathadder is pretty epic.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on December 09, 2011, 04:30:05 pm
I used to have a razer copperhead. Best mouse I ever had.

'Til it broke.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: bagge on December 09, 2011, 05:59:22 pm
IM 3.0 or DeathAdder is the shit :wink:
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Earthdforce on December 10, 2011, 12:44:33 am
Get a Sharkoon Fireglider, its a full scale Gaming mouse for about 20 bucks.

I use it for 2 years now, its still kickin´

edit: just for clarification, I mean this one: http://www.amazon.com/Sharkoon-FireGlider-LASER-GAMING-MOUSE/dp/B001QYN9ES/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1323440328&sr=1-1-catcorr

Not available at Amazon.com currently, but I bet you could get it elsewhere.
Hrm, where'd you get yours?
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 10, 2011, 12:45:37 am
Amazon.de :D
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Earthdforce on December 10, 2011, 12:54:53 am
Sadly, the only place I see it in stock (USA) has it at 30 bucks.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 10, 2011, 12:56:35 am
Well...I got mine for 23 Euros so that would probably be the Dollar Equivalent :D

Its still a very good mouse.You wont get a mouse equally good for 30 dollar(At least I couldnt find one back then, and i searched for about a month before I made my decision).
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Earthdforce on December 10, 2011, 12:59:19 am
Well...I got mine for 23 Euros so that would probably be the Dollar Equivalent :D

Its still a very good mouse.You wont get a mouse equally good for 30 dollar(At least I couldnt find one back then, and i searched for about a month before I made my decision).

Seems odd to me that so many sites I've searches are out of stock :\


Not to mention that the only sites I can find are in Australia..
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 10, 2011, 01:03:21 am
Might be they stopped producing it or something and the Shops who still have it only have Remains.

Dunno...I cant find any new mouse on Sharkoons Homepage either...


Bit weird.

/edit: Amazon.de still has it^^

They also ship to america as far as i know :D

Oh and Amazon.co.uk also has it, and i know for fact that they ship.They even have the Black version a bit cheaper.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Earthdforce on December 10, 2011, 01:10:10 am
Just tried to checkout from amazon.co.uk, and they didn't like my address :(


EDIT: Same with .de :((
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 10, 2011, 01:21:33 am
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=3118131

I found this, its about adding a US adress, should work if Amazon itself posts it :D
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Earthdforce on December 10, 2011, 01:26:55 am
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=3118131

I found this, its about adding a US adress, should work if Amazon itself posts it :D
Oh lord, it's an extra 17 pounds if I ship it here from .co.uk
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 10, 2011, 01:30:02 am
Rofl ok that sucks.


I dont know then :/
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Earthdforce on December 10, 2011, 01:32:26 am
I suppose I'll wait till they put it on the usa amazon, or keep researching other mice :(
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 10, 2011, 01:35:52 am
Yeah, if you are really interested in it you could ask per E-mail if it will be available again anytime soon :D or you just get another mice.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Earthdforce on December 10, 2011, 01:36:52 am
Yeah, if you are really interested in it you could ask per E-mail if it will be available again anytime soon :D or you just get another mice.
Thanks for the help mate
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 10, 2011, 01:41:44 am
Anytime :D
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Earthdforce on December 10, 2011, 01:45:07 am
Le sigh, I live chat with amazon, and OF COURSE! I get an Indian (no offense meant xD)

You are now connected to Anil Kumar from Amazon.com.
Me:Will the Sharkoon FireGlider LASER GAMING MOUSE 3600 DPI be available before Christmas? And if not, soon?
Anil Kumar:Hello, my name is Anil from Amazon.com.
Hi, Spencer.
Me:Hello
Anil Kumar:I'll be happy to look into your question.
Please wait while I check this for you.
Me:You got it
Anil Kumar:Unfortunately, we don't have any more stock of Sharkoon FireGlider LASER GAMING MOUSE right now, and we're not sure if or when we'll be able to get more.
I'm sorry about that.
Our supply of some items is limited, and these products sell out quickly.
We rely on Manufacturer's supply, We'll update the information on our website as soon as we get the item in stock.
Me:Alright man, thanks for the help
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 10, 2011, 01:46:13 am
lol that´s...Almost too much of a clichee.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Earthdforce on December 10, 2011, 01:55:33 am
Yeah, I saw Kumar and started busted out laughing.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 10, 2011, 01:59:00 am
I wonder if he is actually Indian or if it´s just an Easteregg from Amazon :D
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Earthdforce on December 10, 2011, 01:59:58 am
I wonder if he is actually Indian or if it´s just an Easteregg from Amazon :D
I'm actually surprised they put his "real" name, and not something americanized, like billy.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 10, 2011, 02:01:28 am
:lol:

Amazon is just awesome.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Xant on December 10, 2011, 02:30:42 am
Oh my god, you spoke with an indian!!!! JEEZ can't they even get proper americans these days, i don't want to be told by no indian that i can't get what i want!!
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Leshma on December 10, 2011, 01:31:15 pm
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=3118131

I found this, its about adding a US adress, should work if Amazon itself posts it :D

It's a bloody A4tech mouse with a fancy name...

http://www.amazon.de/A4Tech-XL-747H-schnurgebunden-Laser-Gaming-Maus/dp/B002V9WYPM

Personally I would skip it although I know many people who are satisfied with A4tech mice.

DeathAdder looks really sweet especially since I'm used to wireless mouse and DA has both options (cable and wireless connection).

I'm still using some MS old Wireless mouse (first or second generation) with 800dpi and it still works fine. Recently I've wasted 25 euros (35$) on some shity japanese mouse with high dpi... next time I'm definately buying some real brand like Logitech, MS, Razer or Saitek.

Steelseries and Roccat are great as well but too expensive for my taste.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Teeth on December 10, 2011, 01:53:26 pm
After supermarket mouses for years I bought a Logitech G5. You can get it pretty cheap second hand and is still a rocking mouse. Find a good reviews site, that will probably help you out a lot more than everyone being a fanboy of his own mouse.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: [ptx] on December 10, 2011, 01:57:45 pm
lol that´s...Almost too much of a clichee.
Come on, i had to use customer service, which was totally indian, complete with 90's songs in the background in uber low quality, whilst i wait. More clichee than anything you've seen in the movies even...

I used to have a nice Logitech wireless mouse (the wifi version), it was actually super good for gaming, way better than any wired mouse i've used. Man, i just hate wires.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Berthold_Anselm on December 10, 2011, 02:34:25 pm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826102062

what I use ^

It's awesome. Customisable to fit your hand.  Deathadder is also amazing, but personally I prefer this one.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Jacko on December 10, 2011, 03:35:07 pm
Another Death Adder owner here, works great.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Xant on December 11, 2011, 12:44:10 am
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826102062

what I use ^

It's awesome. Customisable to fit your hand.  Deathadder is also amazing, but personally I prefer this one.

Lol pffft, only 5600 dpi. Pathetic. SteelSeries Sensei is where its at, 11400 DPI.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: gazda on December 11, 2011, 12:53:03 am
dude i am using some weird laser mouse whatever high sensitivity crap and just keep on failing.  i want my old crappy mouse back : /

Only smart words said in this whole thread.
everything else
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GAMING HIGH PRECISION MOUSES WTF?! most stupid thing ive ever heard.
5000 dpi?! 11000dpi ?!?! whats wrong with normal 800?! NOTHING !!
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 11, 2011, 01:12:40 am
Im using 2000 Of my 3600 and Iam very fine...My buddy thinks its too fast But I got used to it and now playing with anything else feels like Iam moving around a Tank without engine or something.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: bilwit on December 11, 2011, 12:24:49 pm
Only smart words said in this whole thread.
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GAMING HIGH PRECISION MOUSES WTF?! most stupid thing ive ever heard.
5000 dpi?! 11000dpi ?!?! whats wrong with normal 800?! NOTHING !!

At least this isn't a thread about which 100+ dollar mechanical keyboard is the best  :D
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Earthdforce on December 11, 2011, 11:33:16 pm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826146009 looks pretty good imo for it's price. I might go with that.


Yep yep, it's been purchased and should be shipped tomorrow :D
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Vexus on December 12, 2011, 02:30:18 am
After using a mouse with high dpi I couldn't stand one with low dpi it's just too slow.

The advantage of high dpi is I don't need to stretch my arm fully for my mouse cursor to reach the other end of the screen (21" screen not a big screen but not small either) I only need to move it slightly which is perfect for me since else I would always find my mouse stuck somewere on my desk when playing multiplayer then rage when I can't move the mouse properly (Which happens sometimes because of my xbox 360 joystick).

Some people like myself don't have huge spaces on their desk and high dpi is the perfect solution.

And anyways they are cheaper now you have no excuse!! why should I stretch half my arm to move the cursor from one side to the other? :P
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Xant on December 12, 2011, 03:21:26 am
Or you could just raise the sensitivity in-game/in the windows options, instead of raising DPI.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 12, 2011, 09:01:32 am
Or you could just raise the sensitivity in-game/in the windows options, instead of raising DPI.

Thats not the same at all.

To get across my whole Screen, I need to pull my mouse like 2-3 cm over my mousepad.So while People with the usual mice with about 800 dpi throw their mouse around their table like crazy to turn and such I just give a little impulse to my arm and I aim where I want to aim.


Once you go high dpi, you never want to go back.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Vibe on December 12, 2011, 09:07:20 am
Well you guys getting me horny with all the dpi talk... I never really knew what the difference between high dpi and high sensitivity is, but it sure sounds like it's worth it.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 12, 2011, 09:20:31 am
DPI and Sensitivy both mean a longer Onscreendistance traveled per cm mouse movement, however more DPI also increase accuracy, which is really important for example shooters.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Vibe on December 12, 2011, 09:23:49 am
Damn. Well I own an MX518, was thinking of getting G400 which has double the dpi.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 12, 2011, 09:27:28 am
Well the mx518 already has 1800 dpi, hasnt it?

It really depends on your preferences.I use 2000dpi atm and Its very nice to play for example CSS or BF3 because once you get used to it, you will be aiming a lot quicker than an enemy with a lot less dpi.

Im trying 3600dpi now, though.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Vibe on December 12, 2011, 09:34:29 am
Well the mx518 already has 1800 dpi, hasnt it?

It really depends on your preferences.I use 2000dpi atm and Its very nice to play for example CSS or BF3 because once you get used to it, you will be aiming a lot quicker than an enemy with a lot less dpi.

Im trying 3600dpi now, though.

Yep 1800 dpi. G400 has 3600. Was thinking of getting it then just lowering my sensitivity by about half (because I already play most of my games on high sens). That in turn should increase smoothness and precision I guess?
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 12, 2011, 09:36:08 am
Yep it will.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Vibe on December 15, 2011, 02:18:38 pm
So what's better, lowering sens or dpi or finding the right balance, and why?
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 15, 2011, 02:24:36 pm
I cant explain it very well because Im no expert, but as far as I know increasing sensitivy makes your mouse skip pixels on the screen, decreasing accuracy, while DPI doesnt do such a thing.

So its better to put your sensitivy down to half and get a mouse with more DPI if you care for Accurate mouse movement.
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Vibe on December 15, 2011, 02:29:58 pm
Ah I imagined it was something like that. Anyway, I ordered a Razer Deathadder now :)
Title: Re: New Mouse
Post by: Vexus on December 15, 2011, 03:03:36 pm
Good choice :D