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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Game Balance Discussion => Topic started by: Tot. on November 30, 2011, 04:44:04 pm

Title: [poll] Longsword vs. Two Handed sword vs. Great sword
Post by: Tot. on November 30, 2011, 04:44:04 pm
Barely anyone uses Two-handed sword, here's why:

Longsword
speed rating: 98
weapon length: 106
thrust damage: 23 pierce
swing damage: 36 cut

Two Handed Sword
speed rating: 95    (-3)
weapon length: 110   (+4)
thrust damage: 22 pierce
swing damage: 38 cut


Great Sword
speed rating: 93  (-2)
weapon length: 120   (+10)
thrust damage: 26 pierce
swing damage: 37 cut




In short there's some heavy stats inconsistency of elements in this sword line as two-handed sword is too slow considering that it has just barely more reach than the longsword and it cant be used on horseback.

Ad option #2.
Greatsword 120 minus longsword 106=14  /2 comes down to 7, and that means it should have 113 range, but I'd vote for 114 as it cant be used on horseback.
Title: Re: [poll] Longsword vs. Two Handed sword vs. Great sword
Post by: Casimir on November 30, 2011, 05:55:14 pm
Agreed, this sword really is underused because it really is out classed by other weapons for every purpose.
Title: Re: [poll] Longsword vs. Two Handed sword vs. Great sword
Post by: BlackMilk on November 30, 2011, 05:58:20 pm
GS - 12k => TwoHandedSword - 8k = 4k difference.
TwoHandedSword - 8k => LS - 6,5k = 1,5k difference.

Seems balanced to me.
Title: Re: [poll] Longsword vs. Two Handed sword vs. Great sword
Post by: Camaris on November 30, 2011, 05:59:15 pm
Actually i like using it.
Decent damage, enough range and doesnt get stuck everywhere.
If you want make it 97 speed if you dont im fine too.

Just use it a bit i guess you´ll see that its bettern then its stats would suggest.
Only thing i dont like to much is the low stab cause a bit higher would it make a good alrounder.
Title: Re: [poll] Longsword vs. Two Handed sword vs. Great sword
Post by: Winterly on November 30, 2011, 06:24:02 pm
Should really compare to Heavy Bastard Sword
Title: Re: [poll] Longsword vs. Two Handed sword vs. Great sword
Post by: Paul on November 30, 2011, 06:55:44 pm
We don't change weapon reach as we like. It's bound to the model length and as long as you don't provide a new, longer sword model it stays as it is.
Title: Re: [poll] Longsword vs. Two Handed sword vs. Great sword
Post by: Beat on November 30, 2011, 07:14:03 pm
Are you forgetting the two handed sword does 2 more cut damage than the longsword and 1 more than the great sword?
Title: Re: [poll] Longsword vs. Two Handed sword vs. Great sword
Post by: Tot. on December 01, 2011, 08:20:52 am
GS - 12k => TwoHandedSword - 8k = 4k difference.
TwoHandedSword - 8k => LS - 6,5k = 1,5k difference.

Seems balanced to me.

Edit. Thats the point, longsword is even cheaper.

We don't change weapon reach as we like. It's bound to the model length and as long as you don't provide a new, longer sword model it stays as it is.

I'm aware of that, thats why boosting the speed is sort of "main idea" behind this thread. You can change that, cant you?  :wink:

Are you forgetting the two handed sword does 2 more cut damage than the longsword and 1 more than the great sword?

And 2 less than Sword of War, which is basically a swing-version of Great Sword. Right, I might have picked wrong sword as the third sample.
Title: Re: [poll] Longsword vs. Two Handed sword vs. Great sword
Post by: Templar_Ratigan on December 01, 2011, 11:55:32 am
Pffff buff stones first.
Title: Re: [poll] Longsword vs. Two Handed sword vs. Great sword
Post by: Teeth on December 02, 2011, 04:05:57 pm
I'm glad its shit cause it's pretty ugly.