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Strategus => Strategus General Discussion => Topic started by: Ronald_Meliossandro on November 26, 2011, 10:23:17 am
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Hi all
I like many others players are happy that startegus is up but now it feels pointless to continue playing it.
It is useless for single players or small clan to play it when big clans make big allies where there is a 5-8 clan who work together.
What happens when all the villages are occupied. Single players as examples who want to be trader will find that the tax is 100 gold per hour in a village.
How will you be able to do something useful or a small clan who manage to take a village only to discover after a few days, then the Grand Alliance vill take the village from them. Of course, you should have allies but I think that when it is formed so large alliances so it is just boring and pointless.
I personally think it's more fun when there are many small clan wars because it makes strategus more fun to play. What happens when it's just big clans left? I think this amazing mod will lose many players because of this. Is it not better that we take care of this mod and make it more interesting for both new and old players?
Today the clan that I'm in will attack a village, but unfortunately, we will have this village a few days and then some big alliance will take the village from us. Total pointless to even try to do something in strategus.
Maby the only thing to fix this is to make the map 10 times bigger so you have like a singel player or a small clan a chance to take a village?
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not all clans raise village fees to 100, some clans are ok with guests, small clans or cool people can usually find someone to take them in for awhile as well.
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Come to lands of Mercs. It's only 2 gold per hour in Tosdhar for example :rolleyes:
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This is still early beta and gameplay is absolutely unbalanced and still needs changes.
I agree with you that atm small clans and single players don't have lots of fun playing current version of strat but if you do care about mod and want it to become better then you'd better post some suggestions than threads like "this game is shit" ;)
Mercs land is worst if we talk about faraway goods' bonuses :mrgreen:
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Zharist were did i post that "this game is shit"?
And i did a suggestion if you read the hole post !
"Maby the only thing to fix this is to make the map 10 times bigger so you have like a singel player or a small clan a chance to take a village?"
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Mercs land is worst if we talk about faraway goods' bonuses :mrgreen:
Don't get why, but if they are the worst then I can suggest them to go to your lands :wink:
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I'm talking in general about whine posts ^^
I saw your suggestion, but I thought that it was a joke -)
Don't get why, but if they are the worst then I can suggest them to go to your lands :wink:
Sure you can but they won't ever listen to your suggestions afterwards :rolleyes:
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1-It is useless for single players
2-It is useless for small clan to play it when big clans make big allies where there is a 5-8 clan who work together.
3-Today the clan that I'm in will attack a village, but unfortunately, we will have this village a few days and then some big alliance will take the village from us. Total pointless to even try to do something in strategus.
4Maby the only thing to fix this is to make the map 10 times bigger so you have like a singel player or a small clan a chance to take a village?
1-It is.
2-Strategus is about diplomacy.1 small clan can't stand against an alliance of 5-8 (I don't think that eu side has that huge amount of coalitions yet.)but alliance of 5 small clans can do that. Why strat failing ? Because small clans attack each other instead of forming bigger coalitions to defend their territory against bigger forces.It is simple if 2 cats fight each other , a lion will wait till both cats weakened then it'll eat both of them.
3-Before taking that fief , speak with your border neighbour clan then. Make an agreement before you act.There is nothing to prevent that it's just the same as real life.Can Israel attack Iran without signing a supportive agreement with USA ? What will happen if USA don't support Israel ? Don't act foolish =)
4-Agreed.
5- Good luck with battle mate and i hope you are wrong and you guys hold on in that village.
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I think the strategus map could be bigger. More custom settlements,islands with some fiefs etc...
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Maybe random generated map for each Srategus version ? :rolleyes:
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Hi Harun :)
1.The is true that diplomacy often a key to success and I dont have problem with alliances but it gets pretty boring when large clan goes together in a large alliance. It is not fun when all clans is allias and friends.
2. I dont want to ask for permission before attacking someone becuse the fun with strategus is the battles and thankfully this is not a real life game :wink:.
This game for me is to have fun battles and strategy like a battle where we was defendig Mijayet and almost won aganst 900 vs 500. That was a fun battle. Today we look at a few villages are attacked, there are only 10-20 defenders. This is what is sad, I think. Is its becuse of allied or diplomacy or just people dont have time or a combination of all this i dont now but i think we need some changes.
About the battle if we winn is free bear and pizza for a week :wink:
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omg, bigger map? lol
pussies
this game is about war, diplomacy and strategy not singleplaying. bigger map = more big alliances, less epic fights, less wars, more ridiculous village attacks with 3 ppl defending etc. bigger map is one of the funniest suggestions ever. can't believe you are serious about it.
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Thank you for being so nice and sarcastic!
This is so sad when players insult each other.
Do you think you win something in this?
Have you nothing better to write so stop or read my posts one more time if you dident understand it!
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I hope that there will be bandit lairs where only bandits can recruit / craft (People without fiefs).
Or atleast something like that, because being a bandit is kinda... well you can do it a few times I geuss, but after that you are a known bandit and will have a hard time I geuss?
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Come on, Ronald! I am sorry, didn't mean to offend or insult you ;)
You know I love you, at least when you don't shoot me in my face.
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Apology accepted :D
I love this mod and iam afraid that players will disappear, and then will this mod be boring.
It is true that startegus is not a single player but there are many players who do not want to be in a clan but would still like to play startegus as mercenaries and if its to hard to make money or goods they will stop playing strategus.
This is a big problem I think.
My suggestion to make the map 10 times bigger was a bit exaggerated, but the map needs to be bigger!
We must all help to make this mod more fun to play
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I suggest to add level4 objects (lvl1 = towns, lvl2 = castles, lvl3 = villages, lvl4 = objects) like taverns, bandit camps, observative towers, markets and so on.
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Ronald, I like you and respect you on the battlefield, but I can't listen absurdities (Pointless to play Strategus!). You have no idea how huge effort we put into keeping a large clan in control. We work hard every day. Excel table, announced on internal forum, exchanging of cell phone numbers etc. its just the tip of the iceberg. Discontinuation this work for several days/weeks is sure downfall for a big clan. So instead of complaining about us ( bad boys :rolleyes: ) begin to work on yourselves, because otherwise, we lose on this too. This game is called strategus, so do not blame us that we choose your friends well. Do the same.
Let's face it. You made a STRATEGIC mistake, and now you are looking for fault in our clans, and worse, in the same game :rolleyes:
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Well i think i understand Ronald's point.
I personally enjoy being part of a community who works together . Every member of a clan are rings of a chain.Together they make something.
We,bashibazouks enjoy this.Strategus doesn't offer a lot with it's current version.All you have to do as a faction member is crafting and transferring goods to your designated trader guy. If you are the trader , all you have to do is to wait till you recieve the designated amount of goods from your clanmates and sell them to a designated fief.
This sounds retardic i understand.It is really really simple and kinda primative but doing this with 60 people , doing this without any mistakes or delays feels good somehow.
Its like "mexican wave" . Basically all you have to do is stand up and raise your hands but doing this in order with thousands of people on stadium feels good :wink:
As i experience and as i understand Strategus serves entertainment to big and organized clans for now.
We cannot change strategus,this can be made by devs only and i believe (Hope!) chadz will work on it soon.
All i can suggest to small clans is to unite and form larger strategus factions.
More players in faction creates trouble and organisation problems , solving those issues and make every individual work as one is the core of having fun on strat.Feeling that you do a part to grow an army of 5k feels good.
So summary is this:
If you are clanless or want to rp bandit for example form a clan make it strategus only and recruit people , if you are alone you won't enjoy this version of strategus.Wanna trade with caravans ? Form a neutral merchants guild ask for protection from clans in return of paying visitors tax be rich buy troops from other factions raise your own army etc...There are lots of possibilities but if you are alone you won't have a chance.
If you have a clan of 20 members try to unite with another clan with 20.There are lots of clans in cRPG but very few of them play Strat because they don't believe that they can have fun in that.
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Come to lands of Mercs. It's only 2 gold per hour in Tosdhar for example :rolleyes:
These Mercs, they are cool guys I tell you.
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Hi Harpag
I am not accusing anyone but I think the big alliances destroy the game.
I also know how difficult it is to controll clan member!
We have 34 member but only 8-10 are active in strategus so I know that is huge offer to make all players active.
Unfortunately, I do not succeed with that.
I do not understand why people are taking up strategic mistakes or we are the bad boys. This is not the point!
I now that we have attacked a village in the middle of a great alliance!
Again, I take up what will happen to startegus when only the big clan groups remain.
Of course they will fight each other but the rest of the clans who dont have a village or singel players who dont cant do anything, what will they do?
They will not play startegus more!
This is what I personally believe, and once again, I blame no one but for me is a problem.
And yes i can do alliance and then nobody have to fight! Is this funn?
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Guys, I of course agree completely that the game is not perfect and requires new solutions, but in my opinion, in this case, the error is on the side of the players.
I think that this game needs more love from the developers. I think the players should get a huge bonus XP / gold to attract more players from cRPG. But I have nothing to say. I play this game, which currently is available and try to win. That's all.