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Strategus => Strategus General Discussion => Topic started by: awesomeasaurus on November 12, 2011, 10:59:47 pm

Title: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: awesomeasaurus on November 12, 2011, 10:59:47 pm
CHAOS got Tadshamesh because only 5 defenders showed. What a joke.
Title: Re: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: Keshian on November 12, 2011, 11:02:59 pm
No gold, shit xp, gain new enemies.... why not go play skyrim instead of the neutral strat fight.
Title: Re: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 12, 2011, 11:05:01 pm
Perhaps we need a reward system, where it gives a large extra bonus to defenders. You can only defend so many AI villages before they are taken anyways.
Title: Re: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: Haramir on November 13, 2011, 01:18:43 am
Some clan declared war when 6 people of another clan help the defence of AI, so everyone is afraid to get in war because of helping neutral
Title: Re: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: Darkkarma on November 13, 2011, 01:26:48 am
I think it has to do largely with the fact that the fight was mid day on a Saturday. Our other village attacks had much better turn outs. But yeah, that carebear mentality is definitely a factor too.

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Title: Re: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: BaleOhay on November 13, 2011, 01:26:59 am
We declared war because in all our fights the other side was generally made up of three clans. Hosp/Occ/ATS. Not that we needed a reason but that one will do.
Title: Re: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: BaleOhay on November 13, 2011, 01:29:41 am
I could not sign up against Karma.. Last strat we fought and fought.. and after fighting he went and told Mom on me that i was picking on him. So now we are forced to play nice or neither or us will get dessert after dinner.
Title: Re: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: BlackMilk on November 13, 2011, 01:31:55 am
skyrim.
Title: Re: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: Digglez on November 13, 2011, 01:32:45 am
maybe address or even acknowledge a 6month old bug that villages dont pay mercs for fighting....


I woulda been there but I overslept
Title: Re: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: Ufthak on November 13, 2011, 02:03:18 am
Should give a large exp bonus for NPC defenders also.
Title: Re: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: dynamike on November 13, 2011, 05:21:39 am
The wonders free liquor for the defenders before a battle works...  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: Brutal on November 13, 2011, 10:26:51 am
lol it's the mercs that must be raging they had to fight 30 vs 60 and they lost good gear.

Now it's at best 60 vs 20  for big clans without enemies :rolleyes: So you sign up once realize it's not fun and don't sign again.

Also since it's almost impossible to succeed by yourself in strat because small armies loose all their gear every time they fight, clanless people just don't have any interest in it.
Title: Re: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: Slamz on November 13, 2011, 12:05:09 pm
Quote from: Brutal on November 13, 2011, 10:26:51 am
lol it's the mercs that must be raging they had to fight 30 vs 60 and they lost good gear.

No.  When you sign onto someone else's battle, you use their equipment, not yours.

There is no cost for joining a neutral village battle.  You use the village's equipment.  In fact, even if it's 60 vs 10 you might as well join and just keep spawning to stop them from capping the last flag.  Every time they have to kill you it will cost the village 1 ticket and more gear -- tickets and gear the attackers would have gotten for free, had they won without killing you!


If nothing else, I'm surprised the Great Troll Armada of cRPG doesn't do this, purely to make the attackers waste all those troops and gear.
Title: Re: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: Skysong on November 13, 2011, 12:10:04 pm
Quote from: Slamz on November 13, 2011, 12:05:09 pm
No.  When you sign onto someone else's battle, you use their equipment, not yours.

Yes, that's how it is.
Title: Re: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: Thucydides on November 13, 2011, 01:19:56 pm
this might change if chadz makes armor loot recoverable. Because mercs deserve a portion of the war booty scavenged or captured from the enemy.
Title: Re: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: Wiawins_ATS on November 13, 2011, 11:16:11 pm
Quote from: Slamz on November 13, 2011, 12:05:09 pm
No.  When you sign onto someone else's battle, you use their equipment, not yours.
I believe he was talking about the clan "Mercs"
Title: Re: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: SeQuel on November 13, 2011, 11:27:22 pm
Quote from: BlackMilk on November 13, 2011, 01:31:55 am
skyrim.
Title: Re: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: Vibe on November 14, 2011, 09:21:09 am
Quote from: Keshian on November 12, 2011, 11:02:59 pm
No gold, shit xp, gain new enemies.... why not go play skyrim instead of the neutral strat fight.

This
Title: Re: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: Nessaj on November 14, 2011, 09:32:56 am
Quote from: Keshian on November 12, 2011, 11:02:59 pm
No gold, shit xp, gain new enemies.... why not go play skyrim instead of the neutral strat fight.

100%

No gold/xp might not even be enough though, since over half the factions are usually allied in some regards. So in some sense the community is broken, but unfortunately major bloc alliances has always been an issue in player controlled games, people seem to rather want to win pointless efforts with supreme numbers than actually gaining something both as a player and as an individual.
Title: Re: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: Blondin on November 14, 2011, 12:04:25 pm
I'm sure that clanless ppl will fight for AI if there was any interest.

The fun isn't here anymore, ai fief are defended by a pub, no organization, no tactic, few players, ticket waster, shity gear (even if better than before), all this things are a big malus in motivation and there is no bonus.
This is more fun to play crpg battle or siege and you win something.

Last battle i made for AI, we were 15 defenders against a full roster, it was a joke, we did what we could but it's no fun to be slaughter.
Title: Re: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: Lichen on November 14, 2011, 05:30:44 pm
Quote from: Keshian on November 12, 2011, 11:02:59 pm
No gold, shit xp, gain new enemies.
Title: Re: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: Sharky on November 15, 2011, 02:09:02 pm
Quote from: Lichen on November 14, 2011, 05:30:44 pm
No gold, shit xp, gain new enemies.
Title: Re: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: Arcona on November 17, 2011, 10:39:23 am
Being new I found it fun to join as defender...

After the first few long battles (almost an hour) I realised that

a ) I was not getting any XP to advance my toon.

b ) Unless the attackers are like 600 vs a 500 people village or 1100 vs a 1000 village there is no chance of victory with the gear provided! Even a prosperous village gives the same items like all others!. So the usual fighter 1000 attackers vs 500 village is a doomed ventured.

c ) The village DOESNT PAY YOU! So you spend your time for nothing!

d ) The items given by the village do not represent all classes. Meaning that I have spent my time building a cavalry guy... but there are never any horses... so my build is gimped! There are also no serious 2handers so even the smaller part of my build is ruined...

So overall despite my eagerness to try this whole village defending business out... in the end I just stopped doing it.
Title: Re: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: Camaris on November 17, 2011, 02:55:56 pm
Quote from: Arcona on November 17, 2011, 10:39:23 am
d ) The items given by the village do not represent all classes. Meaning that I have spent my time building a cavalry guy... but there are never any horses... so my build is gimped! There are also no serious 2handers so even the smaller part of my build is ruined...

thats one thing i hate with new strategus... even dadao or goedendag are too expensive now so you always play with shit
while pole gets that overpowered scythe.
Title: Re: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: Keshian on November 17, 2011, 03:21:44 pm
Quote from: Camaris on November 17, 2011, 02:55:56 pm
thats one thing i hate with new strategus... even dadao or goedendag are too expensive now so you always play with shit
while pole gets that overpowered scythe.

Practice longswords are beast.
Title: Re: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: Warcat on November 17, 2011, 03:50:33 pm
I wish we could get immediately accepted or denied again, I think that would help turnout, particularly from last minute attendees to the battle.
Title: Re: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: Ufthak on November 17, 2011, 05:36:48 pm
I agree with Warcat, if it's an odd hour that you might have been willing to stay up for, you might not have been willing to wake up to check if you were denied.
Title: Re: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 17, 2011, 07:59:51 pm
Yeah for NPC village defense I believe it approves roster changes/additions, every hour on the hour until the battle starts.  But if the battle doesn't start until 45 minutes after the hour, nobody who signed up that last 45 minutes will get accepted (even if they don't have a full roster).  Something like 5 minutes before the battle they should re-check the roster and add/change sign-ups as needed.
Title: Re: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on November 18, 2011, 03:21:56 am
Give defending villages the possibility for 20 more construction materials and I will sign for every defense!
Title: Re: Something is broken... the community?
Post by: Lordark on November 18, 2011, 11:05:51 pm
there are no trolls in Crpg only clan Lobbyists.