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Strategus => Strategus Issues => Topic started by: Slamz on November 05, 2011, 03:27:02 am

Title: Possible exploit (not currently possible due to another bug...)
Post by: Slamz on November 05, 2011, 03:27:02 am
So currently when you spawn into a Strategus map, that gear is already taken out of your pool and is lost, even if you don't die.

I think the intention is for you to be able to both save the gear you spawn with and loot gear from the field and save that as well.

If that ever gets implemented, I was realizing we could have an infinite flood of throwing weapons and arrows?

I spawn in with one quiver of arrows.  My 15 friends spawn in with none.  I shoot 15 arrows into the ground and they pick them up, giving them each a quiver of 1 arrow.  At map end, this would be "looted gear" and we turned 1 quiver into 15 more quivers.


Suggestion #1:
If you spawn in and don't die, whatever you spawned with is saved.  Just that and only that.  There is no looting and it doesn't matter if you used up all of your ammo or dropped your weapon.  You only save what you spawned with.

Suggestion #2:
Same as #1 except additionally there's a feature similar to the single player game where the winning team gets a loot box, perhaps as part of the web interface.  The easiest thing is probably to ignore in-game looting and simply give the winning team a 10% chance per item of recovering that item.  e.g., you defeated someone that had 50 mail shirts.  You have a 10% chance, 50 times, to recover a mail shirt from their army.  It either gets automatically merged into your inventory or maybe you have to check-box approve the items (I would just do the auto-merge and let people discard what they don't want later.)
Title: Re: Possible exploit (not currently possible due to another bug...)
Post by: Dach on November 05, 2011, 04:51:48 am
I don't see any real possible abuse there.

First you need a bow to pick up arrow. You need PD to use a bow. That already limit the number or player that can do that.

The only thing that might work if people even bother to abuse it... it's the throwing knife... the only throwing weapon that don't have requirement to pick them up. You can't pick up stones...
Title: Re: Possible exploit (not currently possible due to another bug...)
Post by: Digglez on November 05, 2011, 05:19:11 am
I don't see any real possible abuse there.

First you need a bow to pick up arrow. You need PD to use a bow. That already limit the number or player that can do that.

The only thing that might work if people even bother to abuse it... it's the throwing knife... the only throwing weapon that don't have requirement to pick them up. You can't pick up stones...

you're thinking too small.

You do this with expensive stuff like bodkin arrows or throwing spears and start multipling your cash.

1 guy spawns with a stack of 15 bodkins and shoots them into ground for 15 other archers to pick up.  1 stack of bodkins costing 5,058 has now been transformed into 15 seperate stacks worth $75, 870.  Say you sell these to town at 20% of purchase price you get 15k, you've just tripled your investment.  Now figure in crafted masterwork gear and you get even more!

Same can be done with throwing but not as efficient.  Also, not everyone will WANT to sell their gear to towns, some may just use it to save themselves from having to buy more of that gear.  Low on throwing axes?  Have a thrower spawn with 4 stacks of axes and throw all but 4 of them.  8 other throwers pick up an axe and you've just octupled (x8) the number of axes you have for your army.  Congrats, you just cut expenses by $35k!


Title: Re: Possible exploit (not currently possible due to another bug...)
Post by: Dach on November 05, 2011, 07:32:25 am
Did you actually forgot you also need to fight in a strategus battle? I don't think the other team will let you do this.

Please enlighten me, is there a way to apply that abuse without having to worry about the other team screwing your plan?  :wink:

Title: Re: Possible exploit (not currently possible due to another bug...)
Post by: Digglez on November 05, 2011, 07:52:02 am
Did you actually forgot you also need to fight in a strategus battle? I don't think the other team will let you do this.

Please enlighten me, is there a way to apply that abuse without having to worry about the other team screwing your plan?  :wink:

if you are winning a fight, you can do it easily as you wait to kill the last remaining survivors when enemy team is out of tickets.  or you could just bribe someone to attack you.
Title: Re: Possible exploit (not currently possible due to another bug...)
Post by: Dach on November 05, 2011, 10:05:10 am
make sense  :)

chadz please implement suggestion #2 !!!

Title: Re: Possible exploit (not currently possible due to another bug...)
Post by: Jarlek on November 05, 2011, 10:17:44 pm
if you are winning a fight, you can do it easily as you wait to kill the last remaining survivors when enemy team is out of tickets.  or you could just bribe someone to attack you.
Also, attacking yourselves or allies.
Title: Re: Possible exploit (not currently possible due to another bug...)
Post by: Lordark on November 08, 2011, 07:33:39 am
thank god for honest feedback